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Hi
i may be travel to england in the future for visiting family members and want to hunt at the same time. i'll be greateful to have some information about hunting and firearms law for the aliens in GB.
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Danny
 
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Danny,

The first two questions are Where? and When?

Most things are possible.
 
Posts: 1978 | Location: UK and UAE | Registered: 19 March 2001Reply With Quote
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hi Richard
for exemple in sumerset, and the time is not yet decided.indeed they are living in sumerset!i think it would be nice to hunt roe deer or muntjack or small games.
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Danny
 
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Danny,

The simple way to do it is to contact a professional stalker (read outfitter/guide) and arrange to go out with him and use his rifle. The sum of your preparations will be to send him a cheque. If you wish to use your own rifle then he will have to apply for a visitor's permit for you. This involves you sending him your European fire arms certificate, your details and a cheque for �14 (plus the admin he charges) He returns you your European FAC, your visitors permit and if wise a letter of invitation. This allows you to bring your rifle into the UK to stalk with him.

Your rifle should be 6ppc up shooting a load with not less than 1700ftlbs up.

IMHO best months are Feb for roe does and muntjac and April for roe bucks and muntjac. If you go Feb you also have a chance at fallow or red (buck and does, stags and hinds) if they're present.

Best way to find a professional is to subscribe to Stalking Magazine - has a page somewhere on the net giving subscription details.

Have fun!
 
Posts: 2258 | Location: Bristol, England | Registered: 24 April 2001Reply With Quote
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HI thanks for the answers. I wonder if 3030 is allowed for deer hunting in UK?i own only 3030 and 222R.
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Definately OK in England (majority of loads over 1700ftlbs?) but could be marginal in Scotland where there is an additional stipulation that the bullet must have a min MV of from memory 2,400fps.

Conversely 222rem is legal in Scotland for roe with min 50gr bullets but not legal in England and Wales for any deer species under any circumstances (and that includes road casualties etc)
 
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What?

After having hunted fox with your trusty .222, you happen to pass a road accident site. A roe deer is twitching wildly in the ditch.

Are you not ALLOWED to kill it with your .222?
 
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222rem is legal in Scotland for roe with min 50gr bullets but not legal in England and Wales for any deer species under any circumstances (and that includes road casualties etc)

I find myself in the strange situation of agreeing with HerrBerg in saying to the above: what the fuck? That IS a stupid regulation....A damned 22 Long Rifle will kill a deer wounded by the side of the road in style. [Roll Eyes]
 
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There has been quite a bit of debate over this in Stalking circles of late as the rest of the legislation concerning the dispatch of wounded/injured deer is pretty liberal.

Personally, I know what I would do in the circumstances HerrBerg describes, and having talked to one or two Police officers with a fairly common sense approach to such situations, I doubt if my actions would result in a prosecution...

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In England it is an offence to discharge a firearm within 15feet of the centre of a road/right of way 'if to do so causes inconvenience'.

If the deer is immobile I would allways use a knife and cloth at the side of the road. If the deer is mobile it's gone onto someone else's land and I won't be shooting it because by the time the landowner has been located it'll have long gone.

Whilst I agree with Pete's sentiments my own view is that dealing with road casualties is the most public aspect of stalking and one where it pays to be well within the law.
 
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I find myself in the strange situation of agreeing with Orion1! [Big Grin] [Big Grin]
 
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In England it is an offence to discharge a firearm within 15feet of the centre of a road/right of way 'if to do so causes inconvenience'.

Who would be inconvenienced if you just shot a wounded deer at point blank range with a 22LR rifle? I would use a handgun in the same caliber, but you guys are in a pinch regarding pistols.
 
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Orion,

The onus would be on you to prove that you weren't. The very fact that the (presumably anti) reported it would tend, in the police's eyes, to give credence to the fact that you did inconvenience them.

This law is to discourage shooting across or from public footpaths and roads.
 
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