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OK recession special if money is no objective which scope would you choose ? Schmidt 12.5 - 50 PMII Z6 5 - 30 x 50 IOR 4 - 36 US Optics "big eyes" Have you guys tried the leica vectra range finder ? Have a look at their web site in Milton Keynes accurate to 1 m up to 2500 meters ............. What recession .................... OK back to work through I fan up some conversation thats all | ||
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The more I shoot, the less use I find for huge heavy scopes with whistles and bells. I was looking at a custom 6.5x47L the other day. It was fitted with an enormous USO scope. Damn scope must have weighed 2Kg, you would need an engineering degree just to work out all the knobs. My current favourite scope is a Swaro PF 8x50 with a No.4 reticule. If I could get this scope with a TDS4 ill reticule, it would be nearly perfect for a deer or fox rifle. With shots confined to 200 yards, you would not even need the TDS reticule. Just because you are paranoid, doesn't mean they are not out to get you.... | |||
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Cannot agree more Brian just trying to drum up some conversation thats all. I was talking to a friend a Swaroscki dealer and they are going to change the design of the TDS4-i reticle in the coming year !!!!!!!! What the hell for it dam near perfect. In fact does anybody know who makes the lightest and britgest scope in 6 - 8 power (fixed)? I use a 7 x 50 distal and thats about perfect if I know the ground For highseat work like "Baldock" I used the 1.7 - 10 Z6 just in case........ How did you find the 6,.5 x 47 lapua? I have a TRG in that format and it great for 300 - 600 meters prone I am thinking this is probably a very good deer antelope caliber. I also heard from Alan that Blaser have their eyes on this for future barrel production Can you imagine a 6 x 47 lapua or 6.5 x 47 lapua in a K95.............. | |||
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I'm just a beginner to this and I bought a 2nd hand S&B 8X56 as I thought it was simple and it was available at the time. Occasionally I get these urges to a variable scope with illumination but they tend to wear off because any time I've been out my S&B has worked just fine; I've never looked at something and thought I need a different scope to hit it. In fact I had a sika in the scope in really low light recently and I could see the reticle but the deer was just a dark blob in the shadows. I decided that even if I hit it well I had no chance of ever finding it in the undergrowth so the shot probably wasn't sensible. Based on that I don't think I could even justify the S&B illuminations. It must be said that every time I see a PMII I get this strange urge to buy one, then I remember that it is longer than the barrel on my Blaser. With that in mind if I had to pick I'd probably go for the Z6, just because it is new and shiny. | |||
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Fully agree pure ego trip .......... nice to handle though......... | |||
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The guy I know who probably takes more Deer per year than all of us put together, from high seats and stalking, uses a Simmonds 3to9 WTC on an old Parker Hale .308 single shot. And those cheap Isralie bullets are all he ever buys. It ain't what you got it's how you use it. "When doing battle, seek a quick victory." | |||
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Ben, I didn't get to use the 6.5, but it looked impressive. S&B now do a fixed 7x50 with IR. That might be prefect, except is costs in excess of £900, same price as a Swaro 3-12x50. Go figure. Just because you are paranoid, doesn't mean they are not out to get you.... | |||
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that web site gerry posted seem very good price as compared to the UK. worth a try. I think to get any discount from UK dealer is difficult I am told their margins are in the single figures............ have to tried uttings.com ? | |||
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Hmmmmm? Benjamin, Can't really add too much to your list od Super Scopes above except I've had the S&B in my grubby mitts. Top Drawer but the Eye Relief is super critical; just a blink of your eye and the scope goes black but this is an issue with high X-Factor scopes. 'twood depend on the intended use as I've several 6-16x42 Weaver's; one on a 7mm Rem Mag Long-g-g Range Whumper and even from a Bench the scope is difficult manage at 16X and the few cases where I've used it for hunting it has to be cranked down to @ 10X to get on target and then slowly the X-Factor increased. A pure subjective evaluation but I returned a straight powered 6x42 to S&B to the factory to have the recticle changed. Don't know whether they gave it any special treatment/attention in the assembly/disassembly & Nitrogen purging but it is by far the "brightest", clearest scope in my stable and that includes all the big names & a bunch of no-names, too. Cheers, Number 10 | |||
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The professional hunters in the Bavarian Alps in many cases just carry an old Mauser 98 ("shoots nearly as well as the fancy adn expensive rifles"), cheap GECO SP bullets (they shoot about 150 pieces of game a year) but topped with very expensive S&B scopes, Zeiss or Swarovsky don't have a comparable discount policy. | |||
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As stated by DUK- you can´t shoot what you can´t see. for S&G I would get the S&BPMII scope, if i where to get a new hunting scope for real, then I would like the 4-16x50 S&B with a imlum reticle, however there is no such creature. Best regards Chris
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Why has no-one mentioned thermal imaging? If money is indeed no object  Regards, Amir | |||
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Had those in the army, the cooling fan is to noisy to use at anything less than half a mile, good stuff though, I remenber one cold night in the middle of the winter sitting on the side of one hill I spotted and "shot" a roe across the walley about 2,3 km away. All this shooting being inside my mind of cours Thermal stuff is for mythbuster use only and or shooting tanks, that was what I was supposed to do in the army. Best regards Chris | |||
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+1 for the s&b PMs. The 3-12x50 Ill ret is a very nearly perfect double duty scope i.e stalking and knob tviddling long range. I'm lucky enough to have one and short of having to sell my gran everything else goes first! Z | |||
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None of the above it would be a close call between a, S&B 5-25 x 56 or NightForce NXS 8-32 x 56 IMHO You cannot shoot accurately at longer ranges with low powered scopes that have Railway Sleepers for crosshairs. Deer Management Training, Mentoring & DSC 2 Witnessing Please PM or deermanagementservices@gmail.com for details Dama International: The Fallow Deer Project | |||
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IMHO You cannot shoot accurately at longer ranges with low powered scopes that have Railway Sleepers for crosshairs. It very much depends what you're shooting at. While I would agree that vermin shooting or paper punching would be very much a one legged bollock kicking competition with low powered scopes other disciplines use them regularly. Lot of the tactical shooters are using 3-12 or 5-15 power etc very successfully. I guess its down to the shooters preference. Use what you get on with is the only real rule to stick to. Regards Z | |||
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March scopes - you should be able to find something to like here. Deon Optical Design Corperation March scope I have a 40 X March for Benchrest . Glenn | |||
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Image intensifying is illegal for use as a deer scope in the UK. I would imagine thermal imaging might be too. | |||
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