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I am supposed to find out this week if we are doing an English language Jagdschein or if I have to wait until October. I like to shoot a lot, and have a good place to shoot out to 500 meters on a certified range. Thinking about the 6.5x55 SE and a Tikka T3 varmint, moderator, Bix n'Andy trigger, and a Grodas stock. A couple months ago I had a Howa 1500 in 6.5 Creedmoor, and a M700 Varmint in 308 set up very similar. Got to shoot a lot and cheaply. Seems like 6.5 SE match ammo can be bought in big quantities as cheap as any other caliber in Germany (you have to graduate from a reloading class, and I don't even have a jagdschein, no one is offering it here so factory stuff is what the answer is). In Australia I used a Tikka T3 Varmint set up similar to this concept in 30-06, I thought about the 308, 300 Win or 30-06 but Tikka does a 1 in 11 barrel and I was never happy with the results I got with heavier bullets. 165 Nosler Accubonds sung well though. 6.5x55 seems to be legal over most of Europe for most game. I think the German law is 200 Jules at 100 meters. | ||
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Well I've used a 6.5x55 for many years mainly on deer and find it a very satisfactory caliber. Low recoil, accurate and very effective on animals within that range. I like it so much that when the .260 Rem and 6.5 Creedmore came out I never could see a reason to change since they pretty much copy Swede velocities. I wish Tikka T-3's in 6.5x55 were still imported into the US. I'd snatch one up in a heartbeat. Roger ___________________________ I'm a trophy hunter - until something better comes along. *we band of 45-70ers* | |||
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They still are call Euro Optics. http://www.eurooptic.com/search.aspx?keyword=6.5x55 Outside the USA (and the stupidity of Beretta USA), we get more options. I had a stainless Tikka T3 varmint in 30-06. The 308 is the big target round here in Germany. I just don't care for that caliber, and the Swedes shoot the 6.5 SE for everything under the sun; targets, moose, capercailie. So there are a lot of ammo choices. | |||
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Nice choice, but be careful. In some countries (like Italy) moderators are a NO-NO, forbidden by hunting regulations AND by other laws. I don't know which experience you have with chamois in general and in this side of the Alps. Due to reltively high hunting pressure (in plain English: too many shots) it is rather difficult to approach them at less than 250-300 meters. While in Germany several hunters use the 30-06 for chamois, the most popular calibers here are the 7 mm Rem Mag and similar flat trajectory ammo. The 6,5x55 has a reputation for accuracy, but a relatively curve trajectory, compelling the hunter to play with the elevation drum. Having said that, I add that last year a chamois was shot at 250-280 meters with the Swede, but it is an exception I suggest not to follow. | |||
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Ofbiro, I get what you are saying, I had only planned on using this rifle on the range. Still torn between the Sauer 404 and Blaser R8, but either way I'd rather wear the barrel out on a Tikka that a new barrel can be fitted to cheaply than on a expensive Blaser or Sauer. Here is the RWS Evolution Green load in the 6.5x55 at 6 grams. https://rws-munition.de/en/rws...nters.html#!0/581/28 And the same load in 7mm Rem Mag at 8 grams. https://rws-munition.de/en/rws...nters.html#!0/581/19 They have similar trajectories at 300 meters both using the Evolution Green ammo the 6.5 has -32cm and -32 for the 7mm Mag. So for that ammunition it would work well. Ideally a Blaser k95 in 6.5x68 would be wonderful, but at 100 Euro per box of 20, the 6.5x68 isn't cheap enough to shoot to do with it what I want. So this is a cheaper rifle, shooting cheaper ammo for mostly practice. | |||
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Yes thanks I've looked into Euro Optic but just never went so far as to order from them. Actually I like my m96 Mauser so much it's kept me pretty happy. I admit I'm likely prejudice but to me at least I find both the 6.5x55 and the 7x57mm to be about the most trouble free and versatile cartridges for their size. Roger ___________________________ I'm a trophy hunter - until something better comes along. *we band of 45-70ers* | |||
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Yes in Germany it needs to have minimum 6,5mm diameter and 2000 Joule at a distance of 100m. On the moderator: Please remember that it is not legal in whole Germany. It depends on the Bundesland and formal process is similar of buying a handgun. If you go for a moderator, I recommend Hausken if you want to shoot a lot. On Ammo prices in Germany: I think 30-06 and 308 are the cheapest calibers here and the easiest to get ammo. For just shooting I would think about classical training ammo, it is not legal for hunting but much much cheaper then the "go green". In addition, ammo prices are varying a lot in Germany. So if you take some time you can save a lot. | |||
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I am just from the rifle range, the military gun club here in Kaiserslautern has a Howa 1500 in 308, with a heavy barrel for less than $1100. Too much for a Howa stateside, but the same rifle would be a lot more. It has a multi-cam stock and is cerakoted green.  Like this. It does not come with this magazine system or this scope. I'd have the barrel threaded, and order a moderator. Eventually I'd replace the stock with a GRS or KRG stock. I had good luck with the Howa 1500 I owned in 6.5 Creedmoor, if this is still here when I get my jagdschein in July I am going to buy it. Gerac, I thought moderators were legal all over Germany. I'll have to look into that more. As I might be moving to Bavaria this Summer. | |||
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This guy has the right idea.  | |||
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Here is the other option. KRG Chassis  | |||
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Hi, No there are some areas like Hamburg or Niedersachsen it is forbidden by hunting law. So you can own one but not use it for hunting. Bavaria and Sachsen it is very easy and absolutely legal to use it for hunting. Hope you get your Jagdschein soon | |||
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They called me to pay for the class today, and I work about 1500 meters from the location so I went instantly and was the first person on the list. I cancelled anything in the next few months that would prohibit me from going to the classes. My kid birthday got moved forward a few weeks (taking her to Disneyland Paris, so she doesn't mind), and any work related training I have pushed off until mid-July. I have a laundry list of rifles I want to get, but the key is to pace myself so I can still afford to hunt. I found a few Heym SR20's for sale for cheap, are they ok? Some are less than $1000 with a Zeiss 30mm. | |||
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Some interesting and complex construction of those RWS bullets like the Evolution Green. The 6.5x55 is really a Swedish/Norwegian round !!  Especially the newer 6.5x55 SE  | |||
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