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I saw a rifle yesterday at the gun store that I really like. It is a Blaser K95 single shot in 308 [one of my favorite calibers]. I know the K95 has a good reputation for accuracy, but this rifle is a little different. It is an octagon short bbl with a full length stock. The foward part of the stock is mounted to the bbl, and remains on the bbl when you take the rifle down. The rifle has very nice engraving and very pretty wood. Does anyone have any knowledge how these full stock rifles shoot?
 
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I wanted to wait and see what other replies you got, since I don't actually own one of these rifle, nor have I got first hand experience with them. So I unfortunately can't really answer your question about accuracy. But I just thought that I'd mention that you are not the only one eyeing these rifles. Apart from the fact whether one likes Blasers or not, these guns have got to be some of the shortest and sweetest available. I see a few of them on our range, little wonder, they are not exactly a "best buy". But everywhere I see a lot of people at shows or the like, the full stock version of the K95 always gets an inordinate share of attention. All other Blaseer break-top, single shot rifles (K77, K95) I have come across have been extraordinarily accurate. They are sometimes a tad light for my taste, but ever so nice and short!

Over here, I would probably go for a rimmed cartridge for a K95 - case in point: 7x57R for the full stock version with its 19.7" (50 cm) barrel. But I can see the idea of getting a .308 in the States. Little point in complicating life unduely with an "exotic" caliber. Besides, I have a break-top rifle in .222 Rem, and it works OK. Obvisously, the extractor system can be made simpler and stronger with a rimmed cartridge, but this does not totally exclude the option of a rimless cartridge. With a .308, the rifle would probably tend to jump quite a bit in recoil due to its fairly low weight. Nothing that can't be handled obviously.

Btw, does the K95 full-stock you are offered in the States come with the straight stock also used on the K95 with half stock?? We get the K95s over here in this configuration (hogsback):

K95 Stutzen

Good luck if you decide to get one, they are expensive, but I doubt you'll be disappointed.
- mike
 
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hey Ne 450 No.2,
a friend of mine own a K77 in 8*75RS .
It was a normal (short stocked) break down rifle and he give it away and let do make a Stutzen (long stocked version) out of it.
The precission is good, as long as
1) the wood that is used, is "old enough" and habd been stored long enough at the coreect level of dryness and over a period that was enough.
2) the guy who stocked the gun, has the knowledge of how a stock has to be made..
3)the stock bedding is done acurate!

Normaly the "fabric stocks" have to been controled, so you can be sure that the barrel don�t get any friction from the woood stock, pressing on the barrel.

The Accurate of the gun itself is realy good for a hunting rifle.Don�t know exactly, but thing arround 3cm on 100meters with 3 shots.

Have i answered a part of your Question?

hope so,
cheers
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Part of what Konstantin refers to, is why Blaser went to the 2-piece foreend on the K95 Stutzen (i.e full-stock model): to avoid the danger of the foreend playing havoc with the barrel through uneven and shifting pressure. Not sure it works, but at least they were aware of the problem.
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Gentlemen
Thanks for your replies. The store has sold one of these rifles already and I will try and contact the owner and see how it shoots.
mho, yes that is the exact stock on the rifle I saw here.
 
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I just got back from Reno and spent a lot of time at the Blaser booth.....this little rifle, in whichever configuration, is absolutely superb and the upgrades with respect to wood and engraving are very, very reasonable when compared to other rifles. The only downside is I wouldn't care to go much above a .308 becasue of recoil. The balance is superb but they are light.
 
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....this little rifle, in whichever configuration, is absolutely superb and the upgrades with respect to wood and engraving are very, very reasonable when compared to other rifles. The only downside is .....




they are
manufactured from Blaser

Cheers Konst

P.S.:
 
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NE 450 No2,

I don�t own a K95, but one of my hunting partners does (in 7x57R). I have seen him shoot that rifle at the range and also when hunting. About a month ago, on the same day, he managed to shoot a fallow deer, a mouflon and finishing a wild boar that another hunter had wounded: 3 perfect shots ranging from 80 to 180 meters.

It is as accurate as a rifle can get.

B.Martins
 
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They look and handle very well. I like hunting and shooting a single shot, and I like rifles that take down for travel. For me it must be a 308 [lots of ammo on hand],and as it will be shot a lot I thought the "new" lock up on the Blaser should not shoot loose. After using the Blaser R 93 I have no problem with the cock/decock feature. In fact I am starting to like it. I figure a light weight fixed 6x or a Leupold 2.5x8 would make a good scope.
I think this would be a good rifle for sheep and goat.
Might have to sneak up on a few wild pigs with it too.
 
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If I could afford one, if I had any room in my gun cabinet, and if I did not have so *&^%$#@! many other unfinished projects, I'd buy one tomorrow! Alas, the scourge of the incureable rifle-nut: always one more toy...
- mike
 
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Here's how accurate the non full stock version is with a fixed 6x and 3 shots at 100yards. POI is not affected by hold.



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The rings have been machined to lower them 3/8" of an inch. Like this comb height is perfect (and it looks better)



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Quality is superlative. These are hand made rifles made to order at mass produced prices. They are scarily accurate and handle like a dream. Whilst I would find 308 in the stutzen a little much I'm sure you will have a great rifle.



 
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I have a K 95 in 30 06. Accuracy is truly amazing. It was about 18 deg. F on the range the other day and I placed three shot in a ragged hole at 100 yds with 150's in reloads. The 220 grs Federals shoot about 3/4" of an inch.

I like the Stutzen very much, I think 308 or 7x 57 R would be perfect. I would go with the 308 with a 4X Kahles

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1894 I had seen your post with picture before, which is one of the reasons I thought the K 95 would be a good choice. Also your wood is very nice.
The rifle I saw was a higher grade than the standard rifle, it was very nice, the other 2 I will get to see should be nice ones too. I can't help it I like nice wood.

Aleko how are you doing. How is the SLC crew doing.
 
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Gentlemen
Thanks for all the info. I took the plunge today and got a Blaser K 95 Stutzen, cal 308. I had my choice between 2 different 308,s. I also looked at a 243. All had very nice wood. Mine has dark wood with lots of "figure" which is what I like.
This rifle will surely become a favorite of mine for the following reasons.

It is a 308. The 308 is my favorite light rifle calibre.
It is very short [37"] and very light [5 3/4 lbs with out scope].
It has a full length stock.
It is a single shot, I like hunting with single shots.
It has iron sights, which I like to hunt with.
The Blaser QD scope mounts work very well.
It operates just like a double rifle, ie thumb lever, break open.
It is a take down, take down rifles are much easier to travel with.
It has a very good trigger.
It has a very nice piece of wood.
It has an octagon bbl.
Now we will just have to see how she shoots.
 
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Congratulations. I hope it turns out to be everything you were looking for.

What scope do you plan to put on it?
 
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Hey NE 450 No2.
congrats from me too !
Can you show us a pic of your new Lady?

The only thing i hate on the K95 is that it�s made from Blaser.

cheers Konst
 
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I like your scope choices too. Should keep the whole thing balanced nicely.

You can't go into a store here in Switzerland without facing racks of Blasers - to the point where they have pushed almost everything else aside. They sure appear to be the dominant brand here by a large factor.
 
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I would like to keep this rig small and lightweight. So I do not want to put a large [by European standards] scope on it. However since I will be using this rifle a lot I want it to be a good scope. My first 3 choices were a Leupold 2.5x8, an old 1" tube Ziess fixed 6X or a 1" Ziess Diavari C 3-9x36 MC. The 3-9 Ziess is one of my favorite scopes, I have one on my 300Win Blaser R-93 and the other on my 223 Blaser bbl. I took the one off of the 223 and "stuck" it on the K 95, [same mounts remember], and I think this is the way I will go. I will put the scope in a Blaser QD mount and rescope the 223 bbl with a Schmidt & Bender 2.5x10 x56, or a Kahles 8x56. I will get a spare scope for this rifle too as it will be the one I use for sheep and goats some day, IF it shoots good enough at 300 yds.
I will probably take it on my Canadian Black bear hunt in Aug. It is a hunt over bait and one shot should be plenty.
 
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I do not yet have a digital camera but that is next up on my acquire list.
I just cannot understand why there is so much animosity toward Blaser products. Not only has my R-93 not blown up , but it has never had one single problem, and it shoots good too.
One thing is for sure, I will be giving this K 95 quite a test. I have several different kinds of factory 308 ammo that I will shoot in it as well as my standard 308 reload and will report the results.
I am curious how accurate this bbl will be with the front piece of the forend permentantly attached to the bbl.
Because of the full length stock this rifle is not barrel light, with or without the scope attached it has very good balance and holds steady off hand.
In fact this rifle handles as good as my doubles, which should be no suprise as it is actually one half of a double.
 
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450, Ooooh, congrats on your new toy! I'm greeeen with envy

Do keep us updated on how it shoots, I'll bet it is a champ, most other Blasers are.

Btw, don't take the bait of the "Blaser haters", just ignore them, safest way to go. They get to shoot what they like, we get to shoot what we like. Simple as that.

- mike

P.S. LOVE that old Zeiss 3-9x36 too! My favourite scope for my R93 when it goes abroad! I wonder how the new Conquests compare to the old 3-9x36?? Probably an improvement in terms of optics, but are the mechanics as good??
 
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@mho and Nitro 450... comeone gazors...show that u undersatnd some kind of humor

Nothin� personal ...

xheers from the "blaserhater"

Konst
 
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Congratulations on the K95. I have been looking at one also, although not a full stocked version. For my R93 I have been using the American series Swarovski scopes and been very pleased. The 3x9 Swaro weighs about as much as the Leupold 2.5x8. I buy them from SWFA, when they appear on their "Sample List". Usually pay $450-$500 for them, new. I prefer the 4A reticle, and you can generally buy the standard plex reticle style for a few dollars less.
 
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I shot the K 95 today at 100 yards. I am amazed. I shot five 3 shot groups, all are under 1 inch, measured center to center with a dial caliper. The rifle was shot prone off of my pack, with a firm grip on the forend and pistol grip. Not exactly bench rest technique, but how it would be shot in the field [if you could get prone]. Scope 3x9 Zeiss 1 " tube set at 9x.

The rifle was zeroed with Winchester 168gr Ballistic Silvertip. The smallest group was .750.

Federal 165gr Trophy Bonded Bearclaw's hit 1.3 inches right, elevation perfect into a .90" group.

Federal 150 Ballistic Tip's hit 1.75" low, windage perfect into a .98" group.

The one reload I shot, 180gr Hawk .035jkt with 42.5 gr. of RL-15 hit one inch high, windage perfect, into a .950" group.

Durring the range session I removed the scope twice. Each time I reattached the scope I would shoot one shot at a separate target with the WW 168 BalTip's. They formed a 2 shot .35" group.

I am very pleased and suprised how well this little rifle shoots these different loads.

In the future I will test more loads and shoot at 200 and 300 yards.

This rifle is definately a winner.
 
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Quite frankly, I'm not surprised. I have yet to see a Blaser break-top, single-shot rifle that did not shoot well. Congrats on your new toy!
- mike
 
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I knew the K 95 had a reputation for excellent accuracy, but I must admit I am suprised by the accuracy of the full stock model, which has the front portion of the stock attached to the bbl. Anytime a rifle shoots 3 different factory loads that were picked at random into less than an inch at 100 yards I am suprised.
We will see what futher testing shows.
 
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