Hi guys,

Does anyone have any load data for the above please? I'm loading a 140grain partition and currently have a stock of H4350, H4831SC & Varget.

Min and Max loads to work something up from would be great.

I think I have a Quickload kicking about somewhere but I'm not sure I know where it is right now so thanks for your help in advance.

Rgds,
K

I have no experience with the cartridge, but according to Quickload 3.4, Varget seems to be too fast;
H4350, min. 41gr, max 44gr and a little on the fast side too.
H4831sc, min. 45gr, max 48gr, probably the best choice.
Of course it's only a guess!

Kiri, did you get a barrel for the Sauer?

There is very little data available that I can see for the 6.5x57.

Best starting point might be to take x55 and 260rem data, and work up from an average mid point, you could go a grain or two over the Swede's max load in the x57. Wildboar's 48gr max of H4831 seems about right.

Search out "seafire" on these forums, he is a 6.5x57 fan and should have plenty of data.

Edited to add, thinking some more, I doubt you can get enough H4831 into the x57 case to get you in trouble. You could definitely get in trouble with Varget, max load will be about 36gr's and 70% load density. Lots of room there to load up a LOT more powder than is safe.

Vihta had very good loads in their old manuals and reloading data compilations. Surprisingly, in today's edition it is no longer there. For the 120/125 grain bullets N140 is a very good powder.

PM me your mail adress if you want a copy of the data manual.

Kiri


you may find that the 140's are too heavy fo the "47" case.

Post now deleted - apologies for my own confusion - should read title before typing furiously!

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Originally posted by Andy Mass:
.....you may find that the 140's are too heavy fo the "47" case....

Actually, we are talking about the 6.5x57

Yes, 6.5x57.

Fallow Buck is kindly loading for me before we go to shoot 'big rabbits' in Africa.

He does not like my current loads because he says they make 'too big' holes in his fallow but won't make big enough holes in Kudu.

I think I have been using 130 grain bullets - had them all loaded and packed until a certain contributor with comedy facial hair had a can of lager and decided to re-arrange them by colour!

Too late to get a bigger gun and now I have ordered the damned 140 grain Nosler bullets.

Maybe I should stick to guinea fowl?

Kiri, it looks to me like you might be best to get an alternative powder. Viht 160 looks pretty good in this case. 49gr max gives you 2650 ish depending on seat depth. If you can get 2500plus comfortably and acceptable accuracy then I would quit there. I try and leave some room for increased pressure due to higher temps.

Regards

G

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Originally posted by Small Bore:
Yes, 6.5x57.

Fallow Buck is kindly loading for me before we go to shoot 'big rabbits' in Africa.

He does not like my current loads because he says they make 'too big' holes in his fallow but won't make big enough holes in Kudu.

I think I have been using 130 grain bullets - had them all loaded and packed until a certain contributor with comedy facial hair had a can of lager and decided to re-arrange them by colour!

(cough)

The Gentleman with the Beautiful White Legs neglects to mention that whilst the boxes of ammunition were packed sadly lacking was any clue to what that order actually might be. GBWL also neglects to mention that the Gentleman with the Tasteful Facial Hair arranged the ammunition according to bullet type ( hereabove interpreted as "colour" by our intrepid hero...).

For the record GBWL was using 120 grain bullets.

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Originally posted by Small Bore:
Maybe I should stick to guinea fowl?

We'll need to come up with a different load again for that mate.

That would be an ounce of sixes!

BTW - careful with those skin colour references - you wouldn't want to get accused of racism now would you?

Is it coz I is white?

It's all Goode, Captain.

In answer to your question; Not just white, Persil white.........

Hallo Kiri
Ammoguide rekomends imr 4350- 43,8 gr MAX.vhith 140- 40,7 MAX.norma 204-45,7 MAX .norma mrp-49,2 MAX.
Theas ara loads for 140 gr bullets ,this shuld give you some idea.Hope it helps, see you in November.
Ps.sorry for my spelling.

Give Cohannon a PM. He used to load for one[maybe still does]
He is currently holidaying in Cyprus but not too far from a computer

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d 07 July 2010 02:42 Hide Post
Hallo Kiri
Ammoguide rekomends imr 4350- 43,8 gr MAX.vhith 140- 40,7 MAX.norma 204-45,7 MAX .norma mrp-49,2 MAX.
Theas ara

Kiri

You have all the help from fellow members already on this caliber so I wont repeat what has been said
only 2 points

Since the rabbit you are pursing are large any setting that will group between 0.5 MOA - 1.0 MOA will be fine so don't worry to much about the last 0.5 grain details

I would choose a powder with the least weather variation like change in humidity

You will be taking long shots.

I find with my very limited experience in PG I am pushed to take long shots I thought I was capable however I did not learn my drops off my heart then.

I would suggest you to take the rifle to Bisley and mark down all your drops to 600 yards accurately in 100 yards increment.

THis chart will be your bible. Once you are on the ground hunting accuracy is fine but drop and drift is crucial to PG success.

Bit of a long shot but the first shipment of 8028 XBR is arriving next week from Edgar brothers in the UK.

This is really a super powder for anything ( I mean any caliber under 50 'ish grain capacity.

There is so little variation with temperature and humidity it will be ideal to take to DARK places like where you are going next month.

I have 04 tubs reserved. I know they are all sold out (1st shipment) if you want I will give you a tub and try it out. I shot it last month on a bench and I am very very impressed.

I am noting SD and ED in such small numbers I am going to change all my calibers to this in the very near future.

Sorry to ranter on.

Have a nice time sorry not able to join you

Spare some angry ones for me next year

Thanks to all. I think I'll start off with the H4831SC and see where we go from there. It is quite handy as I use that for my 260Rem so I have loads of it available.

LH,

I don't think I will have time towards the end of the month to be reloading as I have some travel for work pencilled in, but I'd be interested to see how you get on with the new powder.

As for the angry ones.... plans are afoot!!

Rgds,
K

Both I, Montero and a friend of his have had best luck with RL22 and 140gr bullets in 6.5x57R and hence 6.5x57. 2800-2850fps possible with this combination. Great cartridge.

Remember the heat.

What about Montero? He was quite active here a few years ago and his posts were always very interesting....

I have a Sauer 200 in 6,5x57 and I have used H4350 quite a bit in the past. Due to availability and price I now mostly use N160, which in my perception is just a little bit slower than H4350.
Behind a 140 grains Sierra Gameking or Matchking, 46 grains H4350 gave me 830 m/s and 47 grains gave me 850 m/s. COL varied from 77-79 mm and didn't really make much difference.
I use the 140 grain Partitions too, but have no data for it with H4350. The Partitions may generate a little bit extra pressure and therefor I would consider 46 grains of H4350 a maximum load an start with 42 grains.
Good luck and I can assure you that a 140 grains Partition out of a 6,5x57 makes potent medicine for African rabbits.