The swedish wolfpopulation has grown 25% in one year. In last years inventory there was 260wolves + 31 breeding couples (about 160cubs). EU has stoped the swedish governments plan to limit the growt in tree years, many sheeps, dogs and cats are killed.
http://www.jagareforbundet.se/...t/Vargdodade-hundar/

How can we help ?

EUs environment laws must be changed so member countries cam have more independent rules.

Very interesting - is it true the whole Swedish wolf population derives from a very small original gene pool?

I understand they are very closely monitored, with hunters being blamed for any unexplained losses.

Yes they origin from 5-6 wolfes.
The killed numbers shown by some environment groups are so overestimated that no wolfes could die by natural causes at all. Of cause some are killed illegal but the population has been growing by 15% every year the last 10years.

Nordic is quite correct in this matter,

the swedish regulation of large predators, or rather the lack thereof has really started to show now.

The last two winters there has been a small group of wolfes shot on permitts, 20-25 each year, yet the population has been growing,

this year we reached more than 250 animals and had a good number of new pups however the EU- commisioner has forbidden us to hunt this year and next year things will have slipped out of our hands.

In the last ten years, the wolfes have trippled in numbers, the bears dubbled and the lynx have them too doubled.

There are grounds in Uppland, north of stockholm that used to hold a roe for every 50 acres of land 100x100 meters, that now holds less than one roe for 10 000 acres of land,

the lynx and two hard winters have killed them all of.

Other areas that used to hold good stocks of moose have been found to not have a single surviving calf in the spring, due to wolf and bear,

had this not been the oooohhh so protected and precius predators doing the deeds this in all would have been called for what it is,

a ecological disaster regarding hoofed game in Sweden, or at least certain parts of sweden.

This here is a funny thing, no one owns game in sweden, so even though one is subsidiesing the states predators with ones own carefored game there is no reimbursment for losses,

cattle on the other hand, even reindeers are people being reimbursed for.

Yes I am saddened by all this, the politicians are looking more at getting reelected rather than looking for the long future.

In ten to fifteen years from today, there will be large parts of sweden were hunting will not even be thought of,

well besides shooting a crow or two or things similar to that.

/Chris

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Originally posted by Boghossian:
Very interesting - is it true the whole Swedish wolf population derives from a very small original gene pool?

I understand they are very closely monitored, with hunters being blamed for any unexplained losses.

The Swedish/Norwegian(by far the most wolves in Sweden) derives from an extremely small gene pool.
They origin really from just a pair of wolves from Finland/Russia that got their first litter in 1983.
In 1985 the bitch got killed and after that the pack bred between father-daughter and brother-sister till 1991 when a new male came to introduce some new genes.
And as far as I know didn't it come in new blood again before 2008.

So the population is so interbred that they really have no gene value for the specie at all.
Because they are the same specie as the Finnish/Russian population.
The Norwegian/Swedish wolf got exterminated in about 1970 and will never come back no matter how many wolves that comes from Finland/Russia.

I think it was wrong and sad that the Norwegian/Swedish wolf got exterminated, but I also think it is wrong to try replace them with Russian/Finnish wolves.
But what is totally outrageous is that some politicians in Brussels shall decide how the Swedish government shall manage their wolf population.

I totally understand it if many farmers and hunters in Sweden start with SSS the way things are now....

There are no differenses between scandinivian and finn/russian wolfes a lone young wolf can wander 1000km to find a new territory. At the hunting ban 1965 the population was about 10 wolfes. No inventory was made during the seventies but single wolfes was seen in northern sweden and norway. The first wolfcubs of the new? population was Vittangi 1978.

Crepi Lupo:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2...swedish_wolves_hunt/

This party will probable only be a backlash for them who want a manageable wolfpopulation.
95% of the swedish people still wants freeliving wolfs.
Now a days wolfs are seen at daytime in small citys following people and pets.

See the mother and kid in the carrier.

http://www.jagareforbundet.se/...a-gardstomt-1.18724/

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But what is totally outrageous is that some politicians in Brussels shall decide how the Swedish government shall manage their wolf population.

Well, let's face it - that's the issue.

It was predestined how somethng that began as "Union" to "benefit" member States has manifested itself into a governing body that considers itself so much more clever than the individual countries; who are supposed to send "representatives" to Brussels, not Party politicians.

We will see if eu/emu can hold together after the economic crisis.