Shooting Reh w/a triple deuce is a controversial subject, I know, and I don't want to start controversy. But I would like to know if anyone has tried the 53gr Barnes Triple Shock X in a .222 on Rehwild, and the results. I'm not an advocate of small calibers on larger game, but I'm also not an advocate of putting large holes and unnecessary wasted meat either. I'm impressed with the accuracy I'm getting out of my large bores, and the TSX bullet is getting really good reviews.

I am contemplating this combination -- and yes, all shots will be inside of 100m and broadside. You can never underestimate animals, I've had more than a few run at or close to 100m after taking an '06 180gr through the boiler room. Each shot is different, some run, some don't.

Most times I have my bock drilling (20ga, '06, .22h), Boar are always a possibility, but early in the season are rare to see at the times I'm deer hunting, Waidmannsheil, Dom.

Dom,

I have used 222rem and 5.6x50R on roe and really enjoyed doing so in good conditions.

My preferred bullet is the 55gr sierra gameking which expands well but seems to hold together both at 222rem and 5.6 velocities.

I would be very wary of the TSX for roe in a 222rem - I think good expansion and pinpoint accuracy is key to centrefire 22 performance on roe. I have no experience of the TSX but I cannot believe it is going to expand as well as a 55gr gameking. I would also be suspicious of accuracy as most 222rems are 14 twist and will not stabilise the 60gr nosler partition. The 53gr TSX may be lighter but is likely to be the same sort of length? If so accuracy is not likely to be great.

If you are on the continent take a good look at the 63gr factory load from Norma. Most Swedes I know swear by it as giving excellent penetration and good expansion. It's bullet is a bit blunter so is easier to stabilise.

The 55gr sierra game king was stellar in my 222rem I once shot a buck quartering away forgetting I had my 222 and not my 243. The bullet entered the second to last rib hitting the liver, lung, heart and lodging in the skin on the other side of the far shoulder. Bullet weight was 48gr with a text book mushroom! Buck went 5 yards.....

The 53 TSX is about the same length as the 55gr Sierra. I have not used the TSX in my 222s but it should be a potent little bullet if your gun will stabilize it. I use then in a 22/6mm wildcat, 257 Roberts and 7x57 with EXCELLENT results. If you are confident to shoot well with your 222 it will probably be you best choice. I load the 55gr Sierra in a 5.56 and 1894mk2 is right they are an excellent choice for deer sized game. In my 222 I shoot older 50gr Solid Base bullets. On deer/hogs I shoot for the neck an it kills them in their tracks every time!

Dom,

Hey, pal! How are thing's goin? You know me and I'm controversial.....I've shot a truck load of Roe with the .222 and .223 without any hickup's but found bullet selection was the key ingedient.

I started with the 74 gr. RWS Kone Points that are made for the 5.6x57(R) in my Heym .223 and they work great. The chrono says they're going about 2800 fps which is sorta slo-w-w-w for that cartridge. Stopped using them because they got right pricey, their cost made it look like the Nosler's are give-away's.

Haven't used the .224" TSX's but have used the .284" 120 gr. TSX's in a 7X57R and they work fantastic on Roe! Just chop a nice little cookie cutter type hole!

In the .222, .223 or 5.6X50R I am still using either the Sierra 55 gr. HPBT Game King (mainly) or the 60 gr. Nosler Partition. The Nosler's, like 1894 said; took some real load tweaking to get them to shoot at all in the 1-14" twist barrels. Also after all the load work the Nosler's still don't shoot the itty-bitty clusters the Sierra's do anyway.

Either are great Roe bullets in .222, .223 or 5.6X50R. Wouldn't mind trying the Barnes either, so I'll stay posted to see if anyone's had any success with them.

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Originally posted by Dom:
Shooting Reh w/a triple deuce is a controversial subject, I know, and I don't want to start controversy. ..........
...........- and yes, all shots will be inside of 100m and broadside. Dom.

No controversy about it Dom,I haven't used the 222TSX I do however use and recommend sako 55Gr Gameheads,to great effect,as long as you are picking your shot placement then no problem at all
Worth getting a box and trying them.

Roebuck222

Thanks for all the replies w/o roasting me !! Appreciate it -- my 222 doesn't like anything above 55gr, so Gerry, stay tuned, I've got 100ea 53gr TSXs in the mail. Load testing will determine if I go that route, WH Dom.

Hi. I have shot two roe-bucks with the 53grains TSX in my 22-250 at 1090m/s. First one on the blade at approx. 50 yards distance, hit him square in the shoulder joint. He ran for about 70 yards. the second got it just behind the blade, through both lungs, and out behind other shoulder blade. He was walking about in the bush like a drunk Norwegian... I ended up putting 4 more bullets in him. He did not go down until I hit his neck... The bullets had done very(!) little damage, zipped straight through. I dont know, flukes can happpen with all bullets, but I dont like the TSX for roe deer in .22 calibre. I use the 55 grains Trophy Bonded now, and it works flawlessly!

j....a....n....

Thanks for the information. Very interesting experience you had with the TSX's (sadly). Especially in a 22-250 that I would imagine had alot more steam behinds those loads than obtainable in a .222 or .223.

i"ve shot plenty of roe with a variety of calibres, and i would"nt rule out any legal calibre/bullet combi. i would warn against using very tough or bonded bullets though. anything that is designed for deep penetration and/or slow expansion will zip through a Roe if you get the perfect engine room shot, and leave a nice neat hole without doing enough damage.
the furthest any deer ever made it after i shot was a roe doe i shot with a 150gr Remington core-loct in .308. i found her at least a couple of hundred yards away with 2 tiny holes entry/exit.
the cheap lead stuff works great on small medium sized deer at normal ranges!
good shooting.

Other hunters use the TSX in .22 and are happy. Two experiences, one ok and one bad; not enough data to conclude. For me, I am not hunting to do research, and I will avoid having more bad ones if I can! The Trophy bonded works for me. I expect the TSX would be a good choise in a larger calibre.

I would also try some 55g hornadys code 2265 in my own penetration tests i have found these to be as good (and alot cheaper ) than partions.
B

hi
i have used Sako loaded with 50 Gr BX bullets and accuracy is very different in our(my brno fox and my son's tikka) rifles . while tikka is shooting ½ inch groups the brno can never shoot better than 2 inches!. i wonder any ammo maker loading with these new TSX bullets? I've heared that these new bullets are more accurate and copper the barrel much less than the old BXs
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regards
yes

I have used the standard 53grn BarnsX on Rusa Deer {size of red hind} culls from a 223 with the same results as stated before, with the bullet placed behind shoulder through lungs for minimum meat damage. The bullet zips through with no resistance or shock, the beast walks a few meters sits down and dies.
ozhunter

I have shot one roe with a .22/250 53g barnes xlc and it was one of the most dramatic stops I have seen. The range was only about 30 yards and the buck quartering on. Shot hit just inside the point of shoulder and exited at the level of the diaphragm on the other side... dropped like a very heavy stone and never moved again. I would repeat the experience again without a doubt although admittedly the bullet did not just have to go through the chest walls and lungs and so may have encountered more resistance.

regards

S

I've shot some roes with the old Barnes X 53 grs with pretty good results. Two of them were shot at 225 metres through the shoulders. They run about 10 metres and fell. No meat destroyment worth mentioning.

Fritz

Well, I can't get a good load that provides the accuracy I'm looking for with the TSX's in a Voere .222 so I'll stick to my Bockdrilling and 30-06. Been using the Swift A Frame 180 grainers for the past few months and couldn't be happier, so the .222 will sit. You never know when the Boar are coming, that's one downfall of only taking a .222, WH Dom.