I have been noticing the size of foxes here in Europe is huge compared to our American red foxes. What are you feeding them?

But seriously, any outfitters in Europe offering fox hunts. Possibly with a fox terrier, in the snow?

I have been watching all my Hunters Video DVDs and this is a common sight.

I can't get over how big the European foxes are compared to our little American ones.

I couldn´t tell how it is in the rest of Europe, but in Sweden most are glad when you shoot them. It is not considered to be an exclusive type of hunt. I haven´t heard of an outfitter arranging foxhunts here in Sweden. At least not for fox only.
I myself consider it to be a very challenging hunt, unless you hunt at dumpsites. The fox is a very good opponant, just like the magpies, the crows and the raven´s.(before they became considered an endangered species?!?!)
Have had a Jack russel and a deutscher jagdterrier before. They where really good hunting companions and gave me a lot of foxhunting!

"A lousy day of hunting, is better than any workingday"

I'll trade you a few days of fox and capercallie hunting in Nov 06 for a pronghorn antelope hunt. You have to draw a tag though. Or you can come up the elk camp, but I am not promising anything, it's damn tough going.

In australia we have the European fox as a feral animal. They reek havick with wildlife and farmers lambs.

Commmon forms of hunting include
- Spotlighting at night (rifle and chasing with shotgun)
- Running dog packs (stag hounds etc)
- Day time fox drives (flushing foxes into waiting shotguns)
- Denning using jack russels to flush the fox out of hole or tree! Often digging down and shooting the fox in a hole.
- Whistling using predator calls
- My favourite stalking silently through thick
cover and having the fox pop up unexpected and dissapear all within a few feet of you.

A couple of weeks ago we shot a 16 pound fox.
What size foxes are you talking?

Within the first few weeks of lambing all the unwary foxes have been shot and the old ones left are true trophies.

Each year I have one or two living close by that I nor anyone else can get despite all the above options. You tell me a deer that can achieve that?

About 15 pounds, I would guess.

American foxes that I have seen weigh about 10.

Here are some nice ones
http://www.hlad.is/forums/comments.php?forumid=2&threadid=28877

Mature dog foxes on low ground in Ireland can run from 17-18 pounds through to high 20's. The odd monster can make 30 pounds. Vixens generally 14-20 pounds.

Most foxes are shot at night with spotlights. Optimum team is 3 blokes, one to drive, one to lamp and one to shoot.

We also have what are called "gunpacks", generally 5 - 10 beagle cross fell terriers or the like who drive foxes from cover to standing guns with shotguns. A decent team can take from 5 to 12 or more foxes per day in this fashion. I personally love this type of hunting.

Regards
Brian.

D99:
I could take you hunting for capercallie, but I have no terriers for foxhunting left! The Jack russel I had is still alive though, and he is hunting more than ever. If you are seriously interested, I dont think it will be a problem to find foxhunting.
It would be a lot of money, paying the flight just to shoot fox, dont you think?
If I go visit my relatives in California again, I would be glad to go hunting in some of the upper states. Trading hunts is, in my opinion, a fairly cheap and great way of trying new hunts. Meeting new fellow people isn´t bad either!!

We shoot some foxes when we are hunting boars in winter. One of my friends is a great foxhunter, he is doing it with some foxterriers-sometimes he get over 50foxes/winter-, in earlier times I shoot a lot of foxes in winter at the bait, but the foxskin is out of the mode, and I do not like to kill an animal without use something of it. I don`t like to put away such a nice animal.
The weights of foxes are qiet different, the max. is by 10kg.

The size of foxes used to be discussed regularly in Countryman's Weekly at one time. Quite a few people sent in pictures of foxes that they said were in the 24lb to 25lb range, but that was trumpted by one guy who picture showed a real monster he claimed was 36lb!

Partly because of these stories, I weighed all the foxes I shot off one 60 acre farm in a year. As I recall it was about 20, and the average weight of a dog fox was 17lb and the average weight of the vixen was 14 1/2lb...

Regards,

Pete

I belive that the American red fox, Vulpes fulva, is seen as distinct from the European red fox Vulpes vulpes.

A normal weight for a grown fox in Sweden is between five to eight kg, an extremely big dog fox is up to 15 kg.

Regards,
Martin

The biggest fox I've shot was 19.5 lbs,most of the dog foxes in my neck of the woods are 16-18lbs with the vixen's about 14-16lbs.
good hunting.

As part of my job, I am taking fox's with all legal methods and 20 lb is in my experience a big fox, have had one at 22lb, but find most are less than this. Some adult vixens can be just the size of cats, always satisfying getting these ones!!

The biggest dog fox weve had was 29lbs, that we took with 2 terriers and 2 lurchers and it was flushed from top of a cliff, 200ft which dropped about 25ft the slopped down to the beach,
not a nice site to see fox and 2 terriers go straight down the cliff locked onto the fox,
buy the time they got to the bottom the lurchers got to them and end of fox,

Buy comparison some of your Euro-foxes are the same size as eastern and southwestern coyotes.

Coyotes in the northern rockies are as big as 35 kg.

What size is your eastern and southwestern coyotes?

Could it be that our European foxes get a thicker fur in the winter compared to your red foxes? The summer pelt is very much lighter and shorter and a fox always looks much bigger in the winter thanks to this. Those used to the fox in the winter often think that a grown fox in summer pelt is a yearling.

Regards,
Martin

I don't think so. It's quite a bit colder during the winter in Wyoming than it is in most of Europe including southern Scandanavia.

I have yet to see a Zorro in Spain so I don't know how big they are. I am referring to the ones I have seen in Germany, and on videos from Hunters Video.

Our Wyoming winter foxes in full fluffiness are still house cat sized.

Regards,
Seth

here is a old post of mine with some fox pictures from last years season. https://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/5.../r/55210982#55210982


Johan

In a competition held by the Norwegian hunting magazine Jeger, hund & våpen the biggest red fox shot/trapped in Norway 2004/2005 was 15,50 kg(34.14lbs). Weight is controlled and 100% correct. In 2002 the same hunter also won this competition!

Shot an Aussie fox tonight. First one for ages but have been seeing them and hearing them around a lot recently. Also some lambs around.

This dog fox weight 6 kgs (13.5 lbs). Looked pretty average in size, but the first I ever weighed.

Shot the fox with a .22 Magnum with a fairly long shot between 150 metres and 200 metres. He had just lain down on a rock for a sleep. He actually disturbed a couple of Eastern Grey Kangaroos who hopped off.

Photo to be posted soon.

Sounds like an American fox size Nitro.

The 6 kg fox. Pretty average size for here.