Hi, a friend of mine has just bought a Blaser R93 cal 6x62, against my advice .....and now I have to reload ammos for him. Did you have good results? Any hint about this cartridge? Thanks

wildboar

Go to www.blaserpro.com and ask your question.

Aleko and corejack have used bbls in that calibre.

I have done some research on it and I think it would make a great long range deer sized game calibre. It is basically a 6mm on a 30-06 case.

They have reported excellent accuracy, but then that is pretty much standard with Blaser bbls.

PS, just curious why did you advise your buddy against that calibre??

Well I for one would love to hear some feedback on how you do.

Tough bullets for hunting I would think. 240wby probably a good starting point for load data (pretty much same capacity)

I very nearly went for a 6x62R Freres on my K95 but felt it needed a 26" barrel which couldn't be supplied unfortunately.

100gr Nosler partition at 3,250fps with RL22?

Wildboar,
don't spend and loose time with it, the only way to manage it is to buy original cartridge or a lot of new cases and reload them only one time.
As in many other ultra fast calibers, material travel from the shoulder to the base of the neck. when the expander et out from the case it push out the material and often, if the rifle it has not been reworked in the cartridge room, it doesn't close. If you pm me I'll send to you my mobile phone, and I'll be more detailed.

N E 450 No2

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PS, just curious why did you advise your buddy against that calibre??

expensive and very, very difficult to reload, as I explained above.

1894mk2
unfortunately I think that we cannot find that powder

Steve has got it! Ammos, brass and dies are expensive and hard to find; the cartridge has a reputation to be difficult to reload. My friend is the kind of person that asks you an advice, hoping that you confirm him in his opinion; if you are against it......he does it anyway!

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Originally posted by 1894mk2:
.....100gr Nosler partition at 3,250fps with RL22?

Here, 1 lb. of Hodgdon powder costs 120 Euro!

Steve and wildboar,
what are the issues with reloading the 6x62 Frerés ?

The only issues I have had with the 6x62 has been the lack of reloading data that I have found.

Am currently working up my own loads and so far R22 has been the best powder.

I have found it not any harder to load for than a 25-06

The factory brass that I am using has been shot several times and will need to be replaced one of these days so I will dig into my stockpile of 30-06 Lapua brass that I save for these chores and make some more.

I really do not understand the bad press a couple of you guys are giving because my results have ranged from pretty fair to extremely good I have tried a few loads that I did not like but overall it has been good to me.

If I offend anyone for liking this round I apoligize in advance.

Corjack

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Originally posted by ron williams:

.....I really do not understand the bad press a couple of you guys are giving .....If I offend anyone for liking this round I apoligize in advance.

Corjack

To whom are you referring? To me?

Just in case, I didn't give any bad press to your beloved 6x62; I said that rounds, brass and dies are expensive, hard to find and this is a fact. An acquaintance told me that he had/has problems to get good results with this cartridge and I recently read, on a french gun magazine, a similar issue; I was only asking some advices/hints. Anyway, I keep my point of view; I don't like the 6x62 Freres and I don't apologize to anyone for disliking it.

Did not mean to get your tail in a knot buddy but it sounds like you have formed an opinion on the round and you are going to stick it through.

The burn rate of Norma Mrp should be about right and hopefully that is available to you my rifle likes to be loaded to 3100 3200 fps range to shoot the best and I have no complaints about case life at these speeds it seems to prefer a flat base bullet over a boattail and The Blaser barrel is throated fairly deep so you can seat the bullets out quite a bit longer than factory rounds. I have shot mainly 90gr speers and 100gr. Hornady Interlocks in my rifle it did not like Sierra 100 boattails at all shot up around an inch at a hundred yds. the other two were under 1/2 inch@100yds very consistantly have got a few boxes of 100 grain Norma Oryx bullets and a few boxes of Swift scirroccos 90grain that I will try next.

Good luck with your project and hope you get in a better mood.

Wildboar

The reason I asked the question is that I know Ron, and Aleko and they told me they had had no problems loading the Feres.

I Know it might be considered overbore, but the same has been said about the 264 Win Mag. I had a 264 and loaded properly it was a screamer, []I also had a 257 WBY Mag, and could say the same about it], accurate and a great killer of the deer I shot with it. [But no better than a 243 I had and used a lot].

Do not get your panties in a wad... Some shooters/hunters like to court the ragged edge...


Others like you, and me, tend to be a little more conservative.

I am not a wildcatter, but with out them we would all still be throwing jagged rocks.

Also let me add that there is a lot of European hunting of game smaller than a Texas whitetail deer.
"Over there" there is a lot if intrest in cartridges for that sized game.

They want the "ultimate" cartridge for what they do.

For an animal that size at long range a "hot" 6mm, makes more sense than a 300 Mag.

Hey wildboar
I am a lover of the 6x62 Frères. I am in the process of developing a few reloads. Until now I had got a Desert Mule Deer with it. If you send a PM to montero, maybe he can share his experience with you, and of course ron williams. Here is a source:
www.bordingl.com/z6x62Rfre.htm

Regards

Hey wildboar
Here are other two:
http://gunloads.com/modules.php?name=Gunloads&cmd=Gunloads&did=249

www.lima-wiederladetechnik.de/Patronen/6x62-Freres-Patrone.htm

Thanks for your help, guys!

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Originally posted by ron williams:
.....Good luck with your project and hope you get in a better mood.

Thanks for your wishes Ron, but my mood is excellent.

I do not own a 6x62 Frères, but if I were a reloader I would.
Of course there are a lot of similar calibers with many different bullets avilable in factory ammo and there is finally no real need for a round like the Fréres - but, what is the differenz between a tea bag and a Japanese tea ceremony. The result is the same - tea.

I know hunters, having a drilling and some different insert barrels. Going out for hunting, means celebrating the hunt. Which animal, which region, which insert-barrel, which round.

The result is - a dead animal. And the animal doesnt feel the difference.

So, if you are in the happy situation beeing a reloader, the wonderful world of cartridges is your fieldw - celebrate it. I wish I could.

Burkhard

Wildboar wrote a PM to me and I answered, but there is nothing bad in sharing experiences and here there are my minds.

I reloaded this caliber for a hunter, and I never had good results. The gun was a Blaser kipplauf. Speaking with other Blaser kipplauf owners and reloaders we stated that the hight pressure shift metal from the shoulders at the base of the neck. This is not uncommon or unknown, but it depends also by the metal softness.
In the cases that we were using the quantity was abundant and created a prominence at the conjunction between the neck and the shoulder. Now two things happened when resizing, depending on resizing method.
Full size resizing and resizing with neck dies that have the expanding olive:
the prominence is pushed inside before by the dies and then outside by the expander. When a kipplauf like Blaser, with a very tight chamber, receive a reloaded cartridge with the previous described features often it doesn't close. To solve this problem someone ask for a wider chamber. It works but I do not like it.

Neck size only with Wilson type dies:
this time there is not the pushing out effect, but eventually alittle increase of the prominence. If it is necessary to insert the bullet deeper than normal you can get misalignment because the prominence.

Solution experimented:

mill and/or drill point of the inside neck diameter to eliminate the prominence, slow and complicated and it is necessary to do everytime.

one of us builted an expander with a cutting edge wit the diameter of the not expanded neck, it works but need a lot of force or a sturdy reloading press. The expander can break inside the case, it happened some time.

With a normal rifle, not a kipplauf, probably the problem is less evident but it exist however.

Burkhard, your point of view is interesting and absolutely respectable; probably I'm a little lazy and I'm not adventurous.