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MartinPotts, no PM or URl in your profile. Even if Italian I would like to have sample pack also paying the shipment with a catalogue if possible | ||
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KU I have a little experience with 9.3 bullets in a 9.3x64. The 250 gr ballistic tips shoot very nice groups but they open up pretty quick at 9.3x64 velocity. Whether they open as quick @ 9.3x62 velocity I can't say but another responder has indicated they do. I am very pleased with the performance of the 293 gr TUG bullet. The wadcutter type ring cuts cleanly going in and creates more bleeding from the inlet hole than any other bullet I have seen. The 270 gr Speer's really open up fast.The 250 gr A frame shoot well in my rifle and make an excellent bullet for black bear.For bigger game I would prefer a little more weight. I have found the 300 gr A frame will penetrate like crazy. The 286 gr Partion,293 gr TUG and the 300 gr A frame all shoot to the same spot in my rifle and all would be good on larger game. I suspect the 286 gr X bullet would be very good as well but I have no experience with it at this time. I hope this helps. | |||
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Weidmann's Heil et Bon Chasee, I posted this on the reloading and African pages, but it occurred to me that you European hunters would have the most info on this topic. I am preparing for dangerous game, plains game hunt in Tanzania and will carry a 9.3x62 as my "light" rifle in case something happens to my 375HH. I have used the 9.3 250 Ballistic Tip before for plains game, roe buck to elk size animals, but never the heavier bullets for animals in the Moose to Buffalo size. I've not hunted cats with it either. I have a selection of bullets available and I can order others to include the Lapua Mega, Woodleigh soft point, RWS Teilmantel Rundkopf, and Nosler Partition. I would greatly appreciate you experiences with these 286gr (18,5gm) bullets. I'd also appreciate any information that you might have about manufacturers' recommendations regarding maximum and minimum velocities and similar data. If any of you have used the 250gr (16gm) Ballistic Tip for larger animals, I'd appreciate your comments on its performance also. Thank you very much. Merci beaucoup und Vielen Dank. Ku-dude | |||
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Ku-dude, although I (also) have a 9.3x62 (as quite many of the European Hunters), I have not used it so far on any heavier than Red Deer where I used standard soft points in 250gr. These soft points were not the optimum - both bullets did not exit and were completely fragmented in the boiler room and the stag needed an extra "finisher". Therefore I will use on heavier animals like the red deer (gutted it weighted 130kg) only a stronger bullet - I have a box of 19g TUG and I want to get 250gr A-Frames. For your use of the 9,3 in Africa, I would try to get hand-loaded Woodleigh 285gr Softs and Solids that shoot together and would use the Softs for the Plains Game and only Solids for the Buff - but I don't have any experience with it (for Buffalo & Eland I was using my .416 Rigby ) Another tip - maybe get the book "The Perfect Shot" von Kevin Robertson (if you don't have it anyhow...) - I think he has used the 9,3x62 quite a bit on buffalo and he finds the performance comparable to the .375H&H, but he recommended only to use solids... Hope that helps a bit! Best regards, Erik | |||
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Hi Ku-dude, I saw your topic on Ap and I can say that I used mega at the range, but I did not used them during hunts. I had occasion to use Nosler Partition on boars, RWS Tug on boars and fallow deers (heavy) and HMantel on boars I used at the range: Nosler Partition (286grs) quiet precise Ballistic Tip, (250grs) Lapua Mega (286grs) Forex (250grs) RWS DK or DC (double core) (250grs) most precise, hard mantel TUG (293grs) precise HMantel (286grs) precise Norma Vulcan (286grs) very precise Woodleighs Soft Point (286grs) very precise Soft Point (250grs) precise Mega are known by me as hard bullets, I normally use, and have with me on hunt, Nosler Partition and RWS TUG, Forex bullets should be interesting but cost a lot. I use VV N135 56grs on 286grs bullets, Federal LRGM primer, my preferred cases are Lapua. I use VV N135 54grs on 293grs TUG bullets. I use VV N135 56grs on 250grs bullets, probably a not too hot load, but I used it for training. As Ray already said it is possible to shoot also 320grs Woodleigh solid bullets, but I don't have any experience on them. Flip B. wrote us the in Namibia,9.3x62 has been used to cull Elephants. I think that except Elephant and Buffalo, for the games, and Ballistic Tip , for the bullets, the caliber and the bullets are ok on african game. If you want to use 9.3x62 on Elephant and Buffalo look for solid bullets. Hope it help. bye | |||
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Hi Steve, I�m interested in hearing about the performance of the RWS TUG bullets and the Norma 232 gr Vulkan on European Game, Boar and Red Deer. Have you used any of this bullets on game ? How did they perform ? I�ve a Sauer 202 with a short barrel (51 cm) and have been advised to use "light bullets", in order to get a bit more velocity. I�ve tried the RWS KS 250gr, and have some Geco-RWS TM RN ( Round Nose Soft Points)to try on the next boar or deer I get to shoot. But I always liked the Vulkan on my 300 WM and would like to hear from the users how it performs on game. Cheers, N. Rodrigues | |||
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Nsiro, I took my last boar (115/120 kg) two weeks ago, this time with a Nosler partition, OSOK (what doest OSOK means? one shot one kill ), but I used TUG bullet on Romanian Fallow deers, about 100kg of weight, during a hunting on the snow. Near to overpowered for this kind of game, I had spettacular effects created by a lot of blood on the snow and little meat damage. I hit also a boar, not too big, in the neck. I finished it because it did not it the spine, but only to end it life. About Vulcan I prepared some cartridge with it, bat never used on game. About the advise, of course is good, but I think that you should test with chrongraph heavy bullets and then decide. | |||
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What weight of bullet would you like to try in your 9.3x62 Unlike the other company's i make bullet's in any weight you want and any jacket thickness you would like From a 100 grain to anything that will chamber in the rifle you own.. Just for fun i have made ( but never chamberd ) 400 grain .366 diam bullet's.. If you live within the US and would like a sample of my bullet's in 9.3 .366 Diam bullet's Just drop me aline via Email .. or PM me Jacket thickness available 0.010 > Neighbor's cat wall thickness Up to 0.085 wall thicknes In any weight you want Sample pack contain's 10 bullet's PA Bullet's Diamator's also available .366 .375 .403 > 10.15 MM .423 .458 .510 | |||
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Hallo Steve Kudu I have used the following in the 9.3x62 on game 286 grain Lapau Mega 286 grain Norma Alaskan 286 grain Barnes X Custom loaded 286 grain PMP Pro-am 286 grain Kynoch Round Nose Solid 285 grain RWS Solid 285 grain RWS T mantel Custom loaded 270 grain Speer reloaded 270 grain Gs bullets Flatnose solid reloaded 258 grain RWS H mantel Custom Loaded 250 Grain Barnes X Sako 232 grain Norma Vulcun The Mega, Alaskan, and Pro-am gave pretty much the same performance on large game like Kudu, I have shot a few with these ammo and never had a problem. I have used both the Kynoch and RWS solids on Game as large as Eland and Kudu and had no problems, one time I shot a Kudu running away from me directly from behind, the bullet came out just behind the shoulder. The Barnes X in 286 at 2350 gave extremely good performance, penetration is very good, I only recoverd 1 bullet out of about 20 animals shot, I'f you want a bullet for buth I will use it. RWS T mantel shoot big Holes through animals, I have never seen the amount of damage from any of the other bullets, I will not even think of shooting a Kudu on the shoulder bone with this one, much less an Buffalo, this is not a good bullet for normal hunting. the speer at 2400 just disintigrate, I have nothing good to say about it, I shot a very big Kudu bull with it, full frontal, it killed it okay but the bullet was just the jacket, even with no bone hit, the Kudu slaughterd wat 195 KGs The Gs 270 Grain Flat nose solid works very well, shot a few Kudu's with it, just works, should do well on Buffalo, penetration is very good, shot a Kudu cow on the hump between the shoulders and came out at the back legg, I was shooting at an angle The 258 H mantel was loaded to 2525, killed very well, I liked it, penetration is good, shot both Kudu and large Eland with it and worked extremely well, but will not use it on Bufalo The 250 grain X is a great bullet, do about 2400 in my Gun, never recoverd a single bullet, in a pinch I will use it agains buffalo, penetration will not be a problem The 232 Grain Vulcun bullet works well, shot my biggest Eland cow to date with one, struck behind shoulder, recoverd in the back leg, great bullet but had one disintigrate on the lower shoulder of a big Kudu bull, this is not a Buffalo bullet hopes it help | |||
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Weidmann's Heil! Why didn't I think to come here first? Duh! I appreciate so much your input and taking the time to share it. Merci, Danke, and Thanks to all of you, very much. Ku-dude | |||
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Hope I'm not too late. Have shot:- 20lb muntjac with the 286gr partition at 2,250fps it did expand judging by the exit... Fallow with the 270gr speer at 2,300fps - penetrated forever (fallow and 2 small trees) worked well Moose - bull calf with the 232gr Vulkan worked well 3 bulls with the 232gr Oryx - IMHO a bit soft for moose, one bull at less than ideal angle was wounded due to underpenetration. The recovered bullet lost no weight but was overexpanded. I am going to try the 250gr Barnes X but in your shoes would look no further than a 286gr partition which will kill Dik Dik without too much damage and down Mbogo too! | |||
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1894, Its never too late. Thanks. What is a muntjac? Ku-dude | |||
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An absolutely strange animal, with long canine that exit from the upper part of the muzzle ORDER: Artiodactyla FAMILY: Cervidae GENUS: Muntiacus SPECIES: muntjac I. DESCRIPTION: Weight 40-60 pounds and height at shoulder 23-30 inches. Coloration varies from deep brown to yellowish or grayish brown with creamy or whitish markings. Body is covered with short, soft hairs, except for the ears, which are sparsely haired. Antlers are carried on long, bony hair-covered pedicles. These pedicles do not originate on the top of the skull as in other deer, but extend some distance down the face, visible externally as prominent ridges. Antlers are usually just spikes. The upper canine teeth of the males are elongated into tusks, which curve outward from the lips. Females have small bony knobs and tufts of hair where the antlers occur in the males | |||
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BTW the 9.3x62 is a bit marginal, lung shots resulted in 50m death runs..... 222rem is more effective! | |||
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I forgot to mention Rhino, I shot a Kudu bull with the 286 grain bullet at about 2400 fps, it killed very well, but all the pedals where broken of, it was a full frontal at about 50 m If you need any more advice of some of the bullets I will be very glad to help Cheers Flip | |||
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Hi Flip, working hard to have my Hunting trip in Namibia in 2005. Hope it is all OK for you. Happy to read your answer again | |||
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Hallo Steve Your coming in 2005 hope it will work out, if I am in Namibia at the time I would realy buy you a beer or somehing, will stay in contack cheers Flip | |||
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Anyone have a good load for a Blaser S2 9.3x74R they use on wildboar, elk, and stags? One that is fairly accurate and in line with the regulation? | |||
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