Is there such a dog out there??
Imagine releasing a dog and walking near him just like hunting partdriges but looking for pigs. It will be nice to go into the thick bush and find your dog pointing a hidden pig at 40 metres without barking or moving, just frozen!!!!

Is this possible??

L

Lorenzo

My pointer points possums in trees so I guess it depends on what you train them for.

I should thinnk it is possible,although I think 40yds mught be a bit adventurous.

Also you would want one of the HPR breeds rather than the further ranging pointers and setters.

When my viszla's were young they used to point everyting from small lizards butterflies and game. Slowly when the dogs learnt what the objective was the list was filtered down to hares and feathered game. Even the chickens were ignored so it wasn't just any bird.

Flushing and shooting pigs over pointers sounds like a blast if it can be done!!!

Double rifles all round?

Rgds,
FB

Hi Lorenzo

Try a Hannoverian Bloodhound, thats what they were bred for. They are medium sized but heavily built and have quite a loose skin to protect them from a pissed-off boar.If you go on to www.google.de and type in Hannoverschen Schweisshund you should get some good pics. I use mine to track deer as boar are thin on the ground were.

VBR

Mark

Just as a foot note German Wirehaired Pointers should do the job to.

VBR

Mark

I think it´s possible. I´ve heard some histories os pointer eventualy pointing pigs during upland hunting.

Before there was portable shotguns ( I guess before 17 century ), english people used 2 dogs, a pointer and a greyhound , so the pointer points the hare ( or another animal ) and the greyhound catchs it.

But I think it depends a lot on specific training. Lots of pointing breed, specially English Pointer, wich I know more and have, have the capacity of pointing big animals, in fact, some pointer owners train the dogs no to point on deer or pig scent. But upland game usually hides and flushes in the last minute. Pigs will see the dog and hunter and will run much farther, so the dog have to be trained to "stalk and point" the pig, or just point the tracks, far behind the animal, to not scare him.

Hi Lorenzo,

it certainly is possible and i have hunted with such dogs in the past. (not of my own)

They used Setters and Bretons which pointed the pigs just as they would pheasant. The distances varied, but I wouldn't say they got out as far as 40meters, more like 10m to 15.

It's an interesting way to hunt, I enjoyed it even though bird dogs aren't my thing.

Hi,
I am certain the dog could be trained to do this, but would the pigs sit tight...or 'flush' whilst you are still far away?
The bird dog isn't exactly a quiet animal and the pigs spend their day in the thick scrub, sooo a dog crashing through the bush might empty the woods early
--Just a guess as I have no experience with this whatsoever...
Perhaps EXPRESS can tell us more about how it was done.

MarkH,

I had a try with google.de and I got no answer with "Hannoverischen Scheisshund"

What is wrong?

The trouble with pointers / GSPs etc with pigs is they are likely to run into trouble. Not agile and quick enough to dodge a pigs tusks, nor tough enough to take one on to hold either. Also a dog is supposed to hold on point. Not the best attitude to avoid being ripped.

In the country where pigs could be "shot over" a pointer it is likely to be very thick and close country.
1. It may be difficult to keep the dog sighted;
2. It will be difficult to "shoot over a pointer" as the shots will be very quick and limited in the gaps of the bush.

Having the dog on a lead and tracking the pigs may be a completely different story.

A Deutsch Drahthaar, Deutsch Kurzhaar and Weiramner has and can do the job.

I wonder if a Deutsch Jagdterrier can remain steady on point?

WWW.VDD-GNA.ORG

There are some Aussie's who've imported Deutsch Drahthaar's strictly for pig hunting, But for some reason unknown, I can't find there website but I believe they call themselves Ozhunter.

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Originally posted by Norseman:

I wonder if a Deutsch Jagdterrier can remain steady on point?

The Jagdterier isn't actually a pointer at all, is it? It's a terrier?

But has anyone ever imported these little balls of fire? I would like a couple.

Regarding OzHunter kennels I have this link but it is dead:
http://www.users.bigpond.com/Ozhunter_Kennels/Questions.html

They were active on forums somewhere but I forget which ones.

In Portugal and Spain wild boar is hunted mostly in “montariaâ€, usually using a large number of dogs. Some of these dogs are small “podengos†that follow the tracks and detect the boars.
From experience I know that most of the time, after being detected, the wild boar (specially if a big male!) will attack the dog! It will never stand still waiting the hunter’s arrival!

B.Martins

quote:

Originally posted by Norseman:

I wonder if a Deutsch Jagdterrier can remain steady on point?

Even though my experience is limited to a couple of month now with a DJT puppy, I seriously wonder one can get them to point over anything that smells only slightly like game.

They train well but do have a lot of temper plus the energy and eagerness to chase of a beagle.

Great dogs, I just love mine!

quote:

Originally posted by Norseman:
I wonder if a Deutsch Jagdterrier can remain steady on point?

With a copious gush of liquid nitrogen over it, maybe... otherwise, chances are low.
:-)
Carcano

Good morning my funny internet buddies

Of course I don't expect a dog 200 metres infront of me pointing a pig waiting for me to arrive!!

Pigs are mostly nocturnals and spend the day sleeping in the bush, sometimes one can step on over a bunch of them while stalking slowly the riverline forests, it's not common, but happends, what it's very common is to walk near them without noticing they are just 60 metres to the left in some tall grass.

I've hunted pigs with all kind of dogs my whole life...dogos, cimarrones, podencos or whatever barks and move them out of the bush.

I was just wondering if there was some kind of dog that can walk beside me and if he smell something don't run like crazy, just staying still without barking so I can know there is "something" near....

I was thinking in a "stalking dog" if something like that exist...

I know the banjis or something similar don't bark....I don't know....maybe I'm spending too much time infront the computer...

L

Lorenzo: I´ve read in some place which I don´t remember that there is a race trained for sitting besides the hunter in a blind and point the incoming deer. All this without barking. I think this breed could also be trained for pointing hogs. Perhaps our illustrious European comrades could name it?
Saludos

Lorenzo

I know guys who use GSPs and GWPs for hunting deer (at their side) so using them on pigs would (edited) not be possible. But not in close quarters as they would get hurt.

A good dog nose does find one more game.

Pointing pigs?



A good pair of bay dogs like these Catahoulas will not only find your hog, they'll hold it in one place untill you get there.

Pointers....Really now....

Or one Good one!

Lorenzo,

B Martins is showing You the "walking" and steady dog which can point, sit beside You and never bark. Look at B Martins signature, the dog is A TRAINED LABRADOR.

Concerning JagdTerrier, Yes a ball of fire,fear of nothing. No way to considerer hunting as long you don't know where to find a handy Vet. surgeon. Whenever I used DJT I had to visit the Vet. Now I am a teckel (Dachshound) and Lab user.