Thank you gentlemen for your time and effort!

I have more or less made up my mind I will get a 7x65R with a spare barrell in 5.6x50R. That way I have covered all bases in my hunting.
When I talked to Blaser they told me that the don't make barrells that are longer then the standard lenght anymore But I think that a 60 cm barrell will do, both for the 5.6x50R and the 7x65R.

Thank you
Henrik

Mike,
my email is henrik@itstrateg.com and I would appreciate any pictures or other information that you (or anyone else) got.

When we are stock design I think that the absolutly most important aspect is that the stock really fits you. And I have had very god stocks from either design. Unfortunatly I would have trouble in finding a "classic" stock to try since I have only seen one K95 with a "classic" stock.

What are your opinion on barrel lenght? I think that I should order a barrel that's 65 cm no matter what chambering (6.5x57R or 7x65) I choose.

Regards
Henrik

My K95 in 30 06 shot very well too with a wide range of bullets. The extra 2" on a 7 x65R would give a balance to the rifle. I wonder why they do not offer this in the us as an option? In my experience all 7mm dia. Blasers shoot very, very well

Aleko

At the moment I'm considering a Blaser K 95 but I can't decide on the chambering. The main alternative are 6.5x57R, 6.5x65R, 7x57R or 7x65R.

The gun will be used mainly for roedeer, foxes and similar game. But I want to be able to use it for the odd scottish stag, a Norwegian reindeer and maybee a chamois aswell. I might consider a two barrel set up with a 5.6x50R and something larger but my main option would be a cartridge for all kind of deers.



What is your opinion genlemen?



Best regards

Henrik

Henrik

I think a nice two caliber combination would be 7X65R and 5,6X50R. 7X65R is basicly a rimmed 7X64 Brenneke which is very good caliber for deers.

Cheers
/ JOHAN

Can�t speak for you, but I would like a long and rather slender barrel. Max two shots in quick succession will be necessary, light weight and high bullet speed are what counts.

So no ( total ) octagon barrel and 63cm?

Have fun, Hermann

I have always thought that 30R Blaser would be a wonderful round in the K 95. The 7 x 65 R would be a great choice. My K95 in 30 06 was increadibly accurate. I have my eye on a Stutzen in .308

Aleko

I would go with the 7x57 or the 7x64. There is a wide enough selection of bullets to cover the range from the smallest to the largest game you have mentioned.

Aleko, How are you and your Dad doing? I have a K-95 Stutzen.

Very nice, and very accurate. I like this rifle so much I would like to have another but cannot see why I need anything but the 308.... Unless it might be a 10,3x60R.

Henrik

My vote goes to the 30R Blaser - right in between the 30/06 and the 300 WinMag - this together with a barrel for a small cartridge in 5,6mm for Fox and Roe Deer when you prove the need for it after using the 30R for a while, will serve you well indeed.

The 30R Blaser is gaining market quickly here in Austria and Germany - not to far away it will be the new standard for new break action rifles....

Cheers, Franz

Hi .450 we are doing great. I passed on a Stutzen in 7 x57 R about a month ago.

Aleko

Hi! Pleas read some of my ideas in chamois rifle:

Forget the 7x57R! I have one, a Ferlacher BBF, with 16/65 on top. Fine rifle, but a trajectory like a rainbow...

If a non military caliber is important, e.g. for hunting in France and Belgium, but perhaps even good for some other areas, consider this. The 6.5x55 is not legal in F and Bel, but hardly anybody else will remember its a military round, and a natural for a Swede, - ?? And its available in the Blaser as stock.

The 6.5x65R is much more expensive and rare than the 6.5x57R, but mucho flatter, especially if you handload. I would buy cases, 125 or 140 Nosler Partitions ( which game ? ) and start with 6.5-06 load data ... of course starting loads!!

The 7x65R is a classic, shoots flat with light bullets, up to Moose with 175 grs.

The 7 mm Rem is also available! Ballistics for this cartridge might not last long because of throat erosion, also quite some recoil, but no bad choice. Along with the 300 Winnie...

But both are not rimmed, are belted ( pfui! how technically inferior! ) and high pressure.

The .30 Blaser! Fine round, a rimmed .300 H & H ! Can be hot loaded somewhat, and I think a 180 or 200 Nosler partition is not really suited only for Ele, Hippo, Rhino, Buff!

The 8x75RS! Wow, this has class, is expensive, a little more than the .30 Blaser! A favourite of the Reichsj�germeister, but at least from hunting he understood something. Come to think of it, I think his first woman was a Swedish countess??

So: 6.5x55 and .30R Blaser? A .243 and 8x75RS?

And its also available in 8x68S!! You should look carefully into this!

5.5x50R, 6.5x65R and 8x68S... keep the 9.3x74R to a fine European double, put on a Swaro 1.25-4 scope and go Moose or Hog hunting.

Only other gun you need for hunting the world is a shotgun, except for the four species lined out above :-)

Have fun, Hermann

Spare barrels are cheap!

I hope you got the picture from MHO. I've never tried the hogsback but Montero's K95 is in this style and he is very pleased with it. For my part the straight comb style on my K95 is the best designed stock I have used.



Re calibre - 6.5x57R performs way above it's press. The tilting block or Jaeger action of the K95 allows weatherby mag chamberings and pressures(ie >60kpsi) After starting out gently I have found that I can equal 25-06 velocities. (100gr at 3,325fps) I have used the same 10 RWS cases around 6 times in load development and primer pockets are still tight. This is with single base powders. I am about to test the 120/125gr and would be surprised if I cannot manage 3,000fps. A 140 partition at 2,800fps would I think kill any red stag that walked this earth but then I've only shot one red and that was a calf!



I special ordered a 26" barrel (standard is 24") and seeing as I was originaly supplied the 24" can state that IMHO the balance and shootability is improved with the extra 2".



I also have a spare 5.6x50r barrel and it is a joy. With Hornady 60gr sp (as reccomended by Montero) it reaches 3,300fps and is a pleasure to use on roe.



I have no experience of 7x65R but don't discount the 7x57R. You will be able to replicate 7x57 performance which in a bolt gun I find to be 139gr at 2,900fps (H4350 and 139gr interbond)This is only about 150fps short of a 7x65R and I suspect quite a bit better mannered.



Accuracy. The 6.5x57R barrel shoots half inch repeatedly and on one occasion when I shot 3 shots to perfection just under a quarter of an inch. The 5.6x50r would put them in a slightly enlarged ragged hole.

Mine is a 7RM, and I am very happy with the calibre, not to much recoil but enough reach and power on game. The rimless case has not given me any grief neither on "toppjakt" (hunting the woods in midst of winter) or when firing the occasional hot load (I bought a box of bullets that where closer to .286, not .284 and it gave me some problems).

I want an extra barrel in 8x57IRS, wich should cover Moose hunting as well as practicing, and I think this chambering is very versatile unless you need frangible bullets for vermin or beaver.

Tron

Well at the moment I'm thinking that 6.5x57R might be the way to go for me. And if the need arise in the future (which it has a strange tendency to do) I will get a spare 30R Blaser for the bigger game.
Or I might decide to buy a 7x65R and never look back.
I think that I could be a happy man either way. What other options should I consider with the K-95? Bavarian hogback or a straight "classic" stock?

All those questions

Henrik

Classic stock with a good recoil pad. And a .222 Rem Barrel

Aleko

How about my .320 DGC? Lots of 8mm (.323) bullets available over there. I have the one and only reamer, make you a good deal and then there would be 2--one in North America and one in Europe!

It is 8mm based on a shortened (to '06 length) .404 Jeff case. DGC stands for "Damned Good Cartridge".

Tron, I'm kind of in two minds about this. I really don't like this "firearms fashion" trend (on this forum and elsewhere), where only one stock shape is acceptable. I appreciate many different styles of stocks - including the Central European "hogsback" style. I have a Blaser R93 and a K77 in that style. So I'm not out to deliver a general statement about how poor this style is. On the contrary, I prefer the pistol grip of this style to that commonly found in the classic stock.

However, as much as I like the hogsback style, I personally find it does not handle recoil as well for me as a straight line stock. I don't normally shoot big kickers, but I have noticed the difference between my R93s in hogsback and straight stocks. Hogsback definitely kicks me more in the face.

Anyway, this is a very personal thing, I suppose. So I'm not out to create major row about what to prefer. We have both stated our preferences, and Henrik can take it for what it is. Ideally, as you suggest, he should be able to test each stock style before deciding. Unfortunately, I have actually never come across a straight stocked K95 here in Europe. So his chances of doing so are probably fairly slim.

Henrik, I talked to "1894" via mail. He can't post pictures from work. I can't post it as the Hunt101 site does not allow uploads at the moment. So,,, I actually have the picture here. Send me a mail with your mail address (click on my name, you'll see my mail address), and I'll forward the picture to you. It is a real looker!
- mike

6,5x57R. Handload it and copy the performance of the 6,5 Swede.

Fritz

All

I just ordered my K95 a couple of months ago - Luxus, 7x65R, straight stock, oct barrel - can't wait.

GG

Henrik,

I have owned and hunted with Blaser single shots, both the old k77 and the current k95, and I can only praise them.

Thay have all proved extremely accurate, unbelievably accurate for a little gun that weighs 2,7 kilo and which breaks itself in two.

For hunting roe I have used the 5,6x60R with fantastic results even though a time or two I've decided to pass on bad angle shots which could have been easily taken with a larger cartridge.

The only reason why I do not use the 5,6x50R any more is that while stalking roe the opportunity to take a large wild boar presents itself from time to time, and even though I have taken them with the little 5,6 with a very precisely placed bullet, I do not feel it is the way to go.

After following the 6x62R Freres and the 6,5x65R route I have finally settled on the 6,5x57R. It is a traditional cartridge, that very well matches a traditional gun like a kipplauf. I found the larger x65 to be unnecessarily powerful, specially after sharing some stalks after chamois and moufflon in the Alps with a good friend who uses the x57.

It is a charming little cartridge and its performance surpasses what you may expect from it, given its size and appearence. A careful handloader will easily improve factory data given the high quality of RWS brass and the strength of the k96 tilt lock mechanism that handles high intensity cartridges like the 7mm RM or the 8x68S without a hitch.

You need a lot of cartridge to improve on the killing capabilities of a 125gr Partition bullet at 900m/s! You also need a lot of cartridge to improve on its trajectory!

Montero

Hi Montero,

I had almost made up my mind and was ready to order a 6.5x57R when I found a used (but in perfect condition) K95 attache in 7x65R hmmmmm......



What barrel lenght do you favor for a 6.5x57R? What would be the upper limit on in your opinion for the 6.5x57R? As I understand it you have a lot of experience with this combination so I'm really curious on your opinion. As I said earlier my main use for this gun will be roedeer and smaller game, but I want to be able to use it in Scotland next year and for a chamois in the near future, what are your thoughts on this?

Here in Sweden we use the 6.5x55 for almost every kind of game there is even though the 6.5x55 has fallen out of fashion in recent year, but most of the hunters who uses 6.5x55 seems to favor 156 grain bullets. I've have used 6.5x55 my self, mainly for roedeer with 120 grain ballistic tip(but I've got a couple of mooses with the 156 grain bullets aswell).



Best regards

Henrik

Hola, Henrik

Not being a large capacity case and not burning a huge amount of powder I believe the 6,5x57R starts doing fine with 55cm barrels.

I believe 60cm is better, though. The weight added by those 5cm of steel is not an issue on such a light gun and 60cm allows this cartridge to deliver its full potential, reduces muzzle blast to even lower levels while driving it a little further away from your face, reduces muzzle re elevation with recoil, etc.

65cm, even though in my opinion not required at all would even make shooting your gun more pleasant, still. Do not worry about the extra length, since even with a 65cm barrel your kipplauf will still be shorter than a 60cm barreled bolt action.

I have to go now, sorry, but I'll be back later on with some comments on its performance of game and my favourite bullets.

Regards,

Montero

Thank you Mike,
that's a really nice rifle!
I haven't made up my mind yet as to what chambering to choose but the two finalists are 7x65R and 6.5x57R. My dealer had both a 7x57R and a 7mm mag in his store, so I will be able to check them out for myself before I make any decision either way, 60cm or 65 cm. If I choose 7x65R as my first barrel then the second barrel will be 5.6x50R and that would be a perfect match for a short barrel. However if I choose 6.5x57 then the second barrel will (probably) be 30R Blaser in wich case I will have two long barrels.

Unfortunatly I will not be able to check out any K95 with a classic stock before I make my decision, but I will be able to bring a couple of scopes in my own mounts, wich has been lowered as much as possible to se if the stock will fit me.

Thanks everyone
Henrik