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Posts: 69283 | Location: Dubai, UAE | Registered: 08 January 1998Reply With Quote
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I'd bet a yankee dollar their dna thinks they are American Bison. It would be great to see this succeed.

I was hoping to see Aurochs.
 
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Those are European bison (Bison bonasus), also known as wisent...and are hunted in Poland for decades by now (high fence I believe).
 
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Hi,

This actually been a success story for conservation. When the numbers got high enough they started hunting them carefully. I think its the most expensive type of Bison to hunt.
We are thinking about going to Bornholm, Denmark and I plan to get a look at them thereSmiler
Numbers and distribution estimated as follows:

The total worldwide population is around 4663 (including 2701 free ranging) and has been increasing.[30] Some local populations are
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Belarus: 958 animals.
Caucasus: Around 500 animals. Population slowly increasing.
Denmark: Two herds were established in the summer of 2012, as part of conservation of the species. First 14 animals were released near the town of Randers, and later 8 animals on Bornholm.
Germany : A herd of 8 wisents was released into nature in April 2013.
Lithuania: 61 animals.
Netherlands: A herd of 24 (2013)
Poland: Has around 1300 animals, including a stable population of 450 animals in Bialowieza Primeval forest. Population increasing.[30]
Romania: Has almost 70 animals. Population slowly increasing.
Russia: Around 461. Population stable and increasing.
Slovakia: A breeding herd of 9. Population increasing.
Ukraine: Has a population of around 240 animals. Population is unstable and decreasing.
 
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Saeed,

Thanks for the post:

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I'd bet a yankee dollar their dna thinks they are American Bison.

Nah, these guys have distinctly Eurasian opinions on their DNA. Just ask 8 year-old bull below:



It would be great to see this succeed.

Yes indeed. Another bovine to add to the gand slam. tu2

I was hoping to see Aurochs.

But a ton of wisent on the hoof will do nicely, eh?

 
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mouse93 and Svinejakt,

Thanks for the info and the link:
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Those are European bison (Bison bonasus), also known as wisent...and are hunted in Poland for decades by now (high fence I believe).


Not all opportunities for Wisent are high fence...but those that are not are $$$$$$$$$$$! I am to the point now where I just want to shoot a management bull or cow under unfenced conditions.
 
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Buying por farmers land and turing them to conservation areas for people with money.

http://www.rewildingeurope.com/
 
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Fantastic animals, I keep a small group as pets Wink

 
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P-A: Hvor er dette?
 
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P-A: Hvor er dette?


Jag håller till norr om Umeå i norra Sverige.
 
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Jeg visste ikke at det var wisent der? Fantastisk Smiler
 
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Plenty for the barbecue!
 
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Plenty for the barbecue!


Smiler

I have never tasted them. But the big bull in the picture will move on to his next incarnation this comming fall. Will be interesting to try the meat.
 
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Lucky man Smiler Would love to taste!! I heard at least that the american bison has the very lean and nutritonal meat. Best there is probably.
 
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Nothing beats a bison burger!


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I have actually talked to the food "department" in Norway about importing meat from an american bison hunt. Got a BIG NO from them. Have to go and eat everything while I am there Wink
 
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I have actually talked to the food "department" in Norway about importing meat from an american bison hunt. Got a BIG NO from them. Have to go and eat everything while I am there Wink


I guess "Mattillsyn" would take that issue serious...
 
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They don't appear to be as big as the American bison. If that bull is 8 years old, he is much smaller than an 8 year old from over here. An 8 year old bull here will often go 2000 pounds or a little better. I have taken 3 year old cows for meat with a Sharps that weighed 900 pounds on the hoof. And yes, the meat is fantastic.

I am glad to see them re introduced. They are a very interesting animal.
 
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They don't appear to be as big as the American bison. If that bull is 8 years old, he is much smaller than an 8 year old from over here. An 8 year old bull here will often go 2000 pounds or a little better. I have taken 3 year old cows for meat with a Sharps that weighed 900 pounds on the hoof. And yes, the meat is fantastic.

I am glad to see them re introduced. They are a very interesting animal.


Yes, your American species is a bit bigger. The picture is from last year, he is a bit bigger today. I guess he will be about 1700-1800 pounds this fall when he will be exchanged with a new younger bull
 
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They are slightly taller and slightly lighter than american bison.
 
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I have actually talked to the food "department" in Norway about importing meat from an american bison hunt. Got a BIG NO from them. Have to go and eat everything while I am there Wink


I guess "Mattillsyn" would take that issue serious...


That is correct, hoofed animals could not be imported from USA according to "Mattilsynet". SInce all the bison hunts I have checked you get the meat, it`s a big waste to not get anyFrowner
 
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I guess it is time for us to go to Sweden for some bison hunting Svinejakt Wink
 
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Yes please, Norwegianwoods Smiler I would even go just for the BBQ of a Bison!!
 
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Yes please, Norwegianwoods Smiler I would even go just for the BBQ of a Bison!!


Svine and Norwood, if you are OK with a high fence you could get a big load of meat to drive over the border next time I shift bull in the enclosure Smiler
 
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Get some rich german or russian (hunter?)to pay to shoot it and give the meat to us.
 
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Nothing beats a bison burger!


Sorry, a person could grind up a load of dead skunks, season it up and cook it, not tell anyone what it was and people would think it tasted great.

The only way to get an idea of how good buffalo or any other meat tastes is properly cooked steaks.

Burger AKA "Ground Meat" is not the best way to judge the taste of any kind of meat. tu2


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Yes please, Norwegianwoods Smiler I would even go just for the BBQ of a Bison!!


Svine and Norwood, if you are OK with a high fence you could get a big load of meat to drive over the border next time I shift bull in the enclosure Smiler


Svinejakt can bring his money and a trailer to drive all the meat, I will bring my bow and a knife and Nordic2 can bring a knife too Smiler

You chase the bull around a bit to make him scared of people so it might be mistaken as fair chase Whistling

I would love to taste some well aged bison meat Smiler
 
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I can bring all my money, no one is getting rich thenWink But I would love som meat!!!
 
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3 years ago, the bull was much smaller and a red deer stag could put up a fight. Would not be possible today...

http://youtu.be/XRLHQ4CIDkY
 
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Great video!
The bull dwarfed the stag already then Smiler
 
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