Ok, I like the 202 I guess it's growning on me after all these years of browsing Spanish, German, and Italian hunting magazines.

I understand that it is possible to change the barrels on non-take down models as well. How much work is involved.

I am guessing this is more of a change it and re-sight in kind of deal than change it and your on kind of system.

Anyone one have one and more than a few barrels?

How much of a heachache is it?

What are the caliber restrictions, can I go 9.3x62 to 6.5x68?

What about 7mm Remington to 6.5x68?

I take it you have to have all the bolts for all the calibers?

A couple of months ago I bought a 202 take down from Bignami ( the Sauer dealer for Italy) with the barrel in 300 Wheaterby . It is a very beautiful gun and shot very well. I booked a second barrel in 416 rem, and I'm waiting that is imported from Germany. Is very easy changing the barrels.
There is also a beautiful original sauer bag with the space for a acouple of barrels and optics. The 202 non take down, is detachable, but only the stock on the back, but I dont think you can easily change calibers and barrell.

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Originally posted by Mario:
... but I dont think you can easily change calibers
and barrell.

D99

Actually I think they were DESIGNED to change barrels and calibres.

Check out the Sauer website, it gives lots of information.

I think it is possible to change case head types with an additional bolt or bolt head (?) and a new magazine, plus barrel of course.

I understand that it may not be possible to go to the "big bore" barrels with the non-takedown model as the barrel is thicker unless you start with one of the big bore rifles and then add smaller calibre barrel.

The takedown barrels come with their own forends so that is not a problem for them.

http://www.sauer-waffen.de

I own Sauer 202 in 6,5x55 not takedown. You can remove the back part of the stock in about 15 sek. To remove the barrel you take the fore stock off, also 15 sek, and then remove three bolts or skrews. I have not taken the barrel off but I am told that is not a big deal. The scope sits on the reciver. You sure will have to check Zero but you can also have 2 scopes on swing off mounts each zeroed for diffrent barrel.

The medium calibers are
.223, 22-2,50, .243 win,6,5x55 SE, 6.5x57, 25-06, 7x64, .270 win, 308 win, 30-06, 8x57 JS, 9,3x62. Most uses the same bolt and magzine. The 9.3x62 you need to buy another magazine, and for the smaller (.243 and smaller) you need a new bolt.

The magnum calibers are. .270 wby, 6,5x284, 6.5x68, 7mm rem mag, 300 win, 300 weatherby, 8x68, 375 H&H, 416 Rem and 458 Lott. The big 3 you need a steel reciver. I dont know what bolt and magazine fits with each other.

HA HA HAH


How timely your inquiry is-

I just tried to change barrels on a non-takedown.

GEEEEEZ! It can be done but it is not at all done with the ease of the Blaser or Mauser 03.

Last night Took off the 25-06 barrel to put on the 9.3x62

Ok, you take the sling mount off on the fore end

Then you insert a long hex driver and unscrew the fore end

This exposes the barrel and receiver

There are three screws one loosens to take the barrel off, as well as releasing the "locking pin"

Once these are removed, one pulls the barrel out.

Now the fun begins. Insert new barrel into receiver. Play around with it to line up a notch at the bottom of the barrel, put the pin in and try to secure the pin and tighten the front screw (hard to describe, wish I took photos)

Insert the bolt and tighten the rest of the screws.

Now the hard part--------------
re-attaching the foreend.

See, the locking pin is threaded to receive a long screw attached to the fore end. One slips the fore end on and tries to blindly match up and screw in the fore end screws into the lock pin screw. Trouble is the locking pin free travels about 10 degrees up and down, and the fore end screw rattles around with the same amount of play. I say blindly because, of course, the locking pin and fore end screw are inside, covered by the fore end as you are slipping it on, and one cannot see through the fore end. One also as to gradually slide the fore end into place as the screws tigtens- push too hard and the plastic fore end pops out of the groove guide on the receiver and you have to pull it all apart and start over.

Took me a long time and a lot of frustration to put it back together- I finally manipulated all the variables to get it to work, but I will think twice before I do it again--

As I said I wish I took pictures, but in lieu of that, here are some illustrations taken directly from the Sauer manual:







END RESULT:

404WJJeffry Was it realy that hard to get the forend on. When I read your post I to out my Sauer and took the foreend off (As I said 15 sek) the I put the forend on (10 sek). All you have to do is have the butt off stock on the floor, hold the barrel and let the locking pin lean on the barrel then slide the forend upp on the reciver and tigten the screw. I have taken the forend off plenty of times but never the barrel. I will try that later, maybe that will alter something

Do you have a synthetic or wood stock?

I ended up taping the lock pin to the barrel to keep one of the variables constant.

On my fore end the long screw can flop around a lot, and I observed when the hex tightener is inserted into the fore end long screw it pushes the screw forward and up. I think Sauser should have designed the foreend screw, at least, to have less movement and play then it does.

Yes, it was a pain.

404,

I think I would start with the cheap whiskey and quaaludes next time!

That post was absolutely, 100% pure hilarious. Many thanks.

Hi Guys

Changing barrels on the standard 202 takes about 2 minutes.
To stop 404's cheap alcohol and drug induced floppy fore end there is a tip. On your picture the pin is upside-down
Place the stock on the workbench vertically and rest the long screw onnthe barrel then slide the fore-end down and bingo.
Dont evertighten the 3 screws 7 Nm is just a little more than finger tight.
You can download the user manual from the sauer waffen website.

I have wood stock. Nice drawings but maybe it is better to drink the whiskey first and use better quality stuff.

It's funny how these threads go. Every once in a while I start one, and it goes in strange new places.

Love the drawings!

I've had a Sauer 202 in 7x64 since 12 years and just bought an additional .30-06 barrel. Taking off the forend, changing barrels (tightening at 7 Nm)and replacing forend took less than 10'. BTW, resting the rifle upright, the long hex driver just dropped in its nut. I can't see any other problem than having to resight the scope.

Are the spare barrels spendy? Blasers are $800ish in the states unless you want something fancy.

It would be nice to have a cheaper solution since I am starting from scratch on this rifle.

And it does have a de-cocker right?

What's really cool is the 303 is also a de-cocker.

I can't find it on the website, like Sherpi said it looks like there are family groups on the actions.

So I could have an 8x68, but if I wanted a 6.5x57 I would have to get another action.

So it looks like I need two more of Gerry's guns. I am thinking a synthetic and a fancy wood one. And I'll get a second McMillan stock set for the wood one, incase someone needs to borrow it.

6.5x57, 8x68, 7mm Remington, 9.3x62 should about set me.

I like Sherpi's set up! Maybe Zeiss will call my name when I have the rifles.

Spoon feeding

http://www.sauer-waffen.de/index.php?id=68&lang=en

* Interchangeable barrel: the hunter can easily change calibres within the Standard or Magnum category
* Various barrel lengths: for Medium calibre 51, 56 or 60 cm, for Magnum calibre 60 or 65 cm

* Every component of the SAUER 202 is produced to perfection, dimensionally stable and of exceptional quality. Being able to custom select each component, from the stock, trigger and action to the barrel and sights, enables hunters to obtain the exact structural combination that suits their needs. The result is a fully customized, precision-manufactured hunting rifle.



You can choose from:

* 5 fore-ends
* 5 butt stocks
* 3 stock materials
* 10 wood grades
* 8 bolts
* 3 triggers
* 11 receivers
* 10 barrel contours
* 5 barrel lengths
* 4 surface finishes
* 3 sights
* 23 calibres

Calibres

4 different bolts (8 above?) - one for the .223 class, 8x57 class (ie .308. .30-06 etc), belted magnum class, and 8x68S case head class.

Saved by an Australian, I guess that's just payback for getting rid of the Japanese during world war 2.

Seth, now you know what a Blaser addict I am, but a 202 Take Down in .458 Win Mag with a .300 Win Mag Barrel would be purchased so quickly it would not be funny. I feel for most my meed plus know that I have a large surplus of .458 Ammo would tempt me over to a Sauer. Or better yet a .458 Win Mag Blaser barrel

Aleko

I want a 358 Norma in the 202!

I wonder if someone could make one?

I talked to the gunsmith a few days ago, he's got the barrel on order. Hopefully we can shoot some rocks with it next Spring when I come back to the states for a month.

Wouldnt it be good if you could have one rifle with barrels in 223, 30-06,340W and 500 A2 ,you would only ever need one rifle

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Originally posted by D99:
I want a 358 Norma in the 202!

I wonder if someone could make one?

I talked to the gunsmith a few days ago, he's got the barrel on order. Hopefully we can shoot some rocks with it next Spring when I come back to the states for a month.

Seth

I have seen and heard of 202's with barrels which are NOT on the standard calibre list. I assume that either the factory did a special barrel or aftermarket so it should be possible in custom calibres.

However .358 is not a common European bore. A 9.3x64 (not on the standard list but I have heard of one) would do everything the .358 Norma Mag does and more.

I would love one of these in .223, 6.5x68, 8x68S, maybe 9.3x64 (or 68) or a 10.5x68 custom.

Unfortunately my budget at the moment allows "research" but not acquisition!

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Originally posted by tankhunter:
Wouldnt it be good if you could have one rifle with barrels in 223, 30-06,340W and 500 A2 ,you would only ever need one rifle

I really don't like that idea, as it's not something I have to do.

I like one rifle and a couple barrels, and then a couple single barrel rifles, and then about 20 more rifles, and then maybe another 10 than can change barrels, and then about another 10 or so.

Unlimited gun ownership is the number one reason I will retire in America. That and it would be assinine to spend 20 years defending a country and then retire in one with less personal freedom. That and I can't freaking afford Switzerland anyway!

A German gun company cannot ignore 6.5x68 S, but for me it is not good as 8x68S caliber. Too light bullets to have a lot of velocity when it should be a caliber for mountain hunts. it shoud have to resist to lateral deviations, but it doesnt work. I stay far away from it. But I know that I'm not as many other, for example I don't love 7mm rem Mag and Mauser Europa 66.............

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Originally posted by Steve Malinverni:
A German gun company cannot ignore 6.5x68 S, but for me it is not good as 8x68S caliber.

Fair enough, the 8mm's will do everything the 6.5's do, but a 6.5mm 120 gr bullet at good velocity still have a good BC, is sweet to shoot in a lighter rifle, and is very effective on small to medium sized game.