About six months ago I was lucky enough to shoot a CWD buck as a guest of IanF and Artemis, and at the time Ian 'guesstimated' it as a Bronze medal standard Buck.

Naturally, I kept the head and started prepping it, but for a variety of reasons, it had to go back in my parents freezer half done, and whilst I was away running around Maine looking at moose, 'someone' left the freezer door open overnight, and it ended up in the bin, along with about 5kg of fallow venison.

Luckily though, I'd kept the tusks out of the freezer (they'd worked loose on the initial boil) and I still have them. Is it possible to have just the tusks measured, or are the standards for CWD based on the whole skull? I know it doesn't mean much but it would be nice to have it done.

Also, any tasteful suggestions for something to do with them? They're not quite big enough to go around the fireplace.....

63,

In the CIC system, its only the tusks themselves that are measured and the score is based on the length of the *erupted* tooth and the circumference of each tusk at the point it erupts from the skull..

These measurements are then fed into a formula that comes up with the score...As these have been boiled, I am not sure where you could establish exactly what part of the tusk protruded which would be needed for them to be scored..

Regards,

Peter

You could have them fitted with silver ends and make up a nice set of earrings for the wife/girlfriend!

You are a braver man than I am if you do so, ie have her wear them!


I am sad to read about the partial loss of your trophy, I took with the exellent help of IanF a good "free of charge" head of muntjac at the Baldock bash this spring.

I faired better luck with my trophy, even though the costums guys sure did look abit squeamish passing through with the head in my bags still au naturelle, so to speak.



Sorry I couldn´t be of more help to you.

Best regards Chris

Thanks, I'm sure I can think of something appropriately tasteless to do with them...perhaps have them fitted to a Hares head in a new take on the 'RoeRabbit'.

As it happens, their is a clear change in coloration where they protruded from the jawbone, so it would be possible to measure them to within a few mm, probably not good enough to actually be given a standard, but at least enough for an indication.

63,

If you measure from that discoloration line to the tip,down the front of of each tusk and then measure the circumference of each tusk at the same point and post the figures here (in mm), I'll dig the formula up and run them through for you..

Regards,

Pete

DJM,

So much for "Whiteheads Encyclopedia of Deer!"

So in that case 63, ignore everything I've said, & get your self down to the CLA and get them measured at either the BASC or BDS tent...

Regards,

Pete

Cheers Pete. Embarrasingly enough, the reason I didn't get back to you straight away was I couldn't find anything to measure with except my dial calipers!

Time to step into the metric age I guess.......

http://www.cic-wildlife.org/uploads/media/red_book.pdf

Try page 95 of the PDF for Chinese scoring.

PeteE

Any chance that this link to the CIC Red Book be put in a post and made a sticky? Giving all the Euro scoring requirements, it would be a handy item for reference.

Rgds IanF

I shall get my secretary to pass the request onto Don straight away!

To measure CWD, we need only the tusks, not the skull. The rules changed a couple of years ago (when will the Red Book follow?) and now the tusks must be removed from the skull before being presented for measuring. It also makes them easier to send them by post!

Peter,

I have included a couple of pictures of a medal head I had a year or two ago.


You can see the discoloration of the enamel where it erupts from the gum-not the skull bone.

This is the point ( to the tip of the canine)that you measure from.

The length and the circumference of both teeth are taken. Add the lengths together and divide by 2 . That gives the average .

Same with the circumference.

This particular head was presented for measuring the first time, with the teeth super-glued into place. It was rejected and reported as an qualifying head .


After soaking the teeth out with nail polish remover , it went on to score a gold medal-22 points above the 180 points to qualify as a gold- the following year.

Right,I've totally restarted this post 'cos I was a total mong!

Using the old formula, my tusks score 178 points according to my measuring.

Right tusk is 54 x 35 and left is 56 x 35.

So thats comfortably silver, even if my measuring is a bit awry, and there's a slim chance at gold if I've missed a few mm somewhere.

I make the total length of the tusks 84mm and 85mm respectively, what is the formula/scoring used from their?