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satisfy my curiosity about the price of Leica lrf1200?
How nuch does it cost In gemay?
I'm trying to understand if I some convenience to go to Munich for Jagen ubd fischen and spending contemporary some time going to optic shop to buy one 1200 laser range finder.
Thank you very much in advance,
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Posts: 1653 | Location: Milano Italy | Registered: 04 July 2000Reply With Quote
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Ohhh sh...e,
I have to revise my fingers, the line:
How nuch does it cost In gemay?
must be read as: How much does it cost in Germany?
and the line:
I'm trying to understand if I some convenience to go to Munich for Jagen ubd fischen
must be read as :
I'm trying to understand if I have some convenience to go to Munich for Jagen ubd fischen etc etc.
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Stefano,

I looked on the web, and from this site ( One site in Germany selling LRF 1200)) it looks as if the going price is around Euro 575.00.

Look on Google for "LRF 1200" and you may be able to come up with a better price??

- mike
 
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Hi mike,
thank you for your suggestion. I made a check with American prices, and damn@#�... I don't understand why we have to pay +/- 100$ or Euro for the same product.
[Frown]

The only thing that I know is that I don't want to give money tio the Italian distributor.
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Hallo Steve,

one reason may be the higher value add tax rate.

But therefore the comparable cars are cheaper in Italy.

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Posts: 147 | Location: Germany | Registered: 16 June 2002Reply With Quote
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Sauenj�ger1,
just read the news. 1 euro = 1.0995U.S.$
I'm thinking to buy LRF in USA. Maybe, at the end, I'll spend less than in Europe. [Roll Eyes] [Big Grin]
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Originally posted by Steve Malinverni:
I don't understand why we have to pay +/- 100$ or Euro for the same product.
[Frown]

Yeah Stefano, I share your grief. How is it that a product, manufactured in Europe, shipped to the States at great cost, can still be sold cheaper in the States?? Actually, this is a rhetorical question, I believe it largely has to do with competition (or lack of - in the case of Europe). The business climate is totally different in the States than in Europe. I think this is a large part of the reason, why many European firms do badly when they try to expand into North America. They are quite simply not used to the level of competition...

To be fair to the Europeans (as much as I hate paying their prices [Mad] ), they do have to contend with much higher costs: labour, infrastructure, government regulations etc etc all contribute to this.

Still, I believe most of the price differences can be put down to lack of competition. So I also buy most of my stuff in the States - in spite of the shipping costs...

- mike

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Steve,

I have found one for 515 Euros here in the UK which sounds a bit cheaper than you get in Italy..let me know if you want to know where..

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Steve Malinverni,
you should check out WWW.EBAY.COM
Just type in binoculars and look for leica binoculars 10x42BN or 8x12x42 that are going for about $729.00, click on it and it should show location of HONG KONG and the sellers are EAST MEET WEST, these guys can beat anybody by about 25 to 30%. I don't know how do it even though it come with a international lifetime warranty.
Good luck.
 
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.. I believe it largely has to do with competition (or lack of - in the case of Europe). The business climate is totally different in the States than in Europe. I think this is a large part of the reason, why many European firms do badly when they try to expand into North America. They are quite simply not used to the level of competition...

To be fair to the Europeans (as much as I hate paying their prices [Mad] ), they do have to contend with much higher costs: labour, infrastructure, government regulations etc etc all contribute to this.

Still, I believe most of the price differences can be put down to lack of competition. So I also buy most of my stuff in the States - in spite of the shipping costs...

- mike[/QB]

Hi Mike,

this is very dependend on the product. We are a supplier for the big Car manufacturers and would be happy to get the prices our company gets in NA. Sometimes they get there for the same product the doubled price.

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Thank you to all of you, Pete, I'll make you know, because 515Euro is veri interesting.
Now we can be honest with ourselves [Big Grin] probably the actual American cost is so low for various reasons as a contract when the $ were stronger than now, a big quantity of pieces contract, the american numbers are often biggers than Italian and maybe than European (maybe because they are more Techno than us).
An Italian Importer has an increase of invoice of the 30%, thanking the strongness of Euro.

[Roll Eyes] but sometime is fine complain ourseves [Big Grin]
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PS However I don't want to give money to the Italian distributor..... but this is another taleBig Grin
 
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Steve and Sauenj�ger, can you tell me what a Swarovski PF 8x56 costs in Germany and Italy ?

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It's just a rip off !!!
How else can it be,
When a car that is made in and the UK, can cost as much as 1/3 less in europe.
How can it be, that ammo can be shipped in from all over the world and yet we can't make any here and make a profit for it???
 
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Steve and Sauenj�ger, can you tell me what a Swarovski PF 8x56 costs in Germany and Italy ?

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Triebel has it online (http://www.triebel.de/suche.php3?begriff=wgr&value=OZF) recticle 4 without illumination for 819€. With illuminated recticle for 1249 €.

On this site you can find a lot of things.

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GBF,
I need sometime to make some phone call, I'll make you know.
Pete E
Maybe a friend of mine can be in England within may. He has to go to London or near London. He spoke to me about Knaps, that should be a gun shop, if I understood. If he will go to London, I'll make you know via e-mail.
Thank you.
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Steve,

The place that sells the Leica 1200 is The Sportsman Gun Centre in Paignton in Devon and they can be reached on 01803 558142... I have bought quite a bit of stuff from them in the past via mail order and they have always been very good. I don't think they have a website but they run 3 or 4 page adverts in GunMart Magazine....Paignton is on the south coast of the UK and I guess a couple of hours from London...

Regards,

Pete
 
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Originally posted by Steve Malinverni:
Hi mike,
thank you for your suggestion. I made a check with American prices, and damn@#�... I don't understand why we have to pay +/- 100$ or Euro for the same product.
[Frown]


The US prices are without VAT which is included in Europe and as high as 20% in some countries I guess and easily explains the 100 Euro price difference. In the US the VAT plus other taxes plus tips if you go to a restaurant is added afterwards, leading sometimes to some unpleasant surprises.

If I look at my pay check and the taxes plus social security deducted and think about the fact that buying something I pay an additional 16% here in Germany, I nearly cry...

By the way, the US$ has devaluated 25% against the Euro in recent months, speaking about international investor�s confidence, so it�s getting cheaper again to shop over there...
 
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DUK,
I have only one thing to say
[Big Grin] sometime is fine complain ourselves [Big Grin]

Seriously I debated this problem a lot of time with my friend at the range, and, in the past, I cooperated with the Italian distributor for hunting shops.

In the past, exactly, because he demonstrated to me and to other people to be a false friend, interested only in his personal interest and gain, however and in any way.
Sad story, moreover for him than for me, but I decided that I don't want to give him my money!! [Mad] He, maybe, will be rich,but not with my money.
And for this reason I'm looking for alternative.

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