Does any one here have any experience with the Krieghoff Quadro TS Drilling? How well do the ESL insert barrels work? Or with Krieghoff Drillings in general. Thanks.

[ 10-09-2003, 10:48: Message edited by: N E 450 No2 ]

The name Quadro is not used here. I assume you mean the type which is named here Optima. Designed to carry insert barrel in calibres up to 9,3x74R.

I only have seen one on a stand. There he worked very well. This had 2x 9,3x74R and one 20/76.

For the other Krieghoff Drillinge I have only good experience. My brother has one also with free not soldered barrel for the bullet in 7x57R but not the new TS version.
It works well an you can shoot on the stand in the same way as with your bolt action. No change due to heating the barrel.

But it is clear the new Plus, Optima and so on are not hand made, they are also made on CNC manufacturing centers and only the assembly is made by gunsmiths.

If you want a handmade Krieghoff you have to order a Neptun modell. It has Sidelocks and is very expensive.

Best regards

Here is a link to the Krieghoff home-page - where they advertise the "Quadro" model: Krieghof Quadro Drilling.

Like Sauenjaeger, I had never heard the name "Quadro" before, one lives and one learns. In general, Krieghoffs are excellent quality. I only have one of their cheaper Drillings (Plus - a forerunner for the Quadro, probably - with soldered barrels). For a Drilling it shoots amazingly consistently - obviously you need to let the soldered barrels cool off before firing a second shot to test group size.

I have a barrel insert in my Drilling - nothing quite as heavy as a 9.3x74R (this is pretty new that Drillings can take barrel inserts as heavy as that!) - mine is a .22 Hornet. In general it is amazing how accurate you can get a pressure fit barrel insert to shoot. I can easily get enough accuracy to serve my hunting needs for small game (crows, foxes etc).

It is a pain in the posterior to adjust the barrel insert to shoot to the same point of impact as the main barrel, trial and error basically with minute screw adjustments. Most likely you'll find that the adjustment has to be redone every time you remove/replace the barrel insert. What irritates me more, though, is that I seem to have a hard time keeping POI of the barrel insert over time, even without removing it. Maybe I have too much oil in my shot barrel - they are supposed to be pretty dry before you insert your barrel insert.

In general, in all guns with multiple rifle barrels, it is a problem to get the rifle barrels to shoot to the same POI. Before you buy anything like this, consider well the options the gun offers you to adjust POI for the rifle barrels, and whether you are happy with the hassle and limitations a multi-barrelled rifle offers you. What you buy for all this, is obviously flexibility in the field (shoot roes in 1-2 combinations of fawn-doe, say). In traditional, soldered multi-rifle barrels, you are basically stuck with the ammmo with which the gun was regulated. These days, modern guns often have screw type adjustments - still pretty fiddly, though.

A Drilling with a barrel insert, and even more so one with multiple rifle barrels gets pretty heavy. That may be fine depending on what you intend to use the gun for.

FWIW - mike

Gentlemen thanks for your replies. I am considering the Krieghoff "Quadro" because of its short bbls,[21.5"] 3" 12ga and the ability to become a double bbl drilling with the adition of the KS insert bbl in 9,3x74R. I plan on using it as a "go on every trip" back up rifle, and as a primary rifle at the deer lease and on Black Bear/Grouse hunts.