I will be hunting in England this fall for Fallow,muntjack and chinice water deer .I will bring a 7mm rem and 140 gr bullets, the option is nosler bt or accub or sierra gemeking.

I have a Freind shot Red Stag, chamois and Wild Boar in this caliber.
The bullet is accubond by Nolser in 140gr.
Is very good on terminal performance on the wild!

Hi Speed,

Will you be hunting with Solvi? If so we may bump into each other for a beer.

I wouldn't take the BT, especially if you are thinking of getting your Chinese mounted... They are quite susceptible to being made a mess of

I'd agree with 10.3 that the accubond will do everything you require of a bullet for this hunting.

Rgds,
FB

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Originally posted by Fallow Buck:
....I wouldn't take the BT, especially if you are thinking of getting your Chinese mounted... They are quite susceptible to being made a mess of ....

Rgds,
FB

Damn right, Solvi knows all about that.

Use the Sierra or the Accubond, I would also ease off on the powder a bit if possible. Shots are rarely long, Fallow and munties are not hard to kill.

Kiri, any thoughts on next year's get together yet?

In both my experience and opinion, ballistic tipped bullets in larger calibres make a horrible mess of small deer like Muntjac and CWD - I stopped using VMax in my .270 for exactly that reason. Head and neck shots looked like the aftermath of amateur experiments with high explosives and heart/lung shots rendered much of the animal inedible (but they do 'vacuum gralloch' the deer quite effectively at the same time ).

They're not necessary on Roe or Fallow either - they are thin skinned and not difficult to drop. You'll be fine shooting all of them with soft loads using the Sierra bullets. Big, soft bullets going pretty slowly are what you want for little deer.

Bonded bullets are nice but you'd be better to save them for the Reds and the Sika , sitting over hotter loads.

Adam.

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I will bring a 7mm Rem and 140 gr bullets

7mm Rem. Mag. or a .280 Remington?

Wow! The Fallow will succumb just fine to either of the above but the CWD & Muntjac - well, those are some REALLY small Deer.

Gerry being very subtle there!

I also shoot these tiny deer with a wholly too large calibre, the 30.06.

My advice is shoot a heavy, hard bullet, I use 180 grain Hornady interlock as per Gerry's advice on another thread, and figure as the shoulder's will be junk anyway shoot them high shoulder and drop them where they are.

On the last AR shoot both Mr ~G and myself were using the 06, Mr G with 180 gr Trophy Bonded Bearclaws (!) and myself with downloaded 150 gr speers. Despite the fact that our bullets were travelling at similar speeds his exit holes were an inch to an inch and a half and mine looked like carnations....

Even a bonded light and fast bullet will blow large holes in them and as the estate in question will be hoping to sell the meat, this may be an issue.

Best of luck and let us know how you go.

There was a few munties laying in the cooler room at the estate, that by the look of it was hit by grenade lounchers

I second what the guys said, stay away from easy expanding bullets on these small critters.

I used a 308 Win with 150 grn Nosler PT downloaded a bit on the AR shot, and it worked just fine on both the mountjacs and on a fox.

There are some places where these plastic tip bullets are not liked. For what you are after the Remington "Lite Load" of the 7mm Remington Magnum is probably the best factory loaded round!

I have find in the Web, for my one other good bullet is barnes x in 140 grain.

Yes Fallow Buck I will be hunting with Sölvi , hopefully we will meet over beer .Gerry it is 7mm rem mag 3200+fps,OK the sierra it is.
thanks for the advice.

use the SGK I have used the nosler bt's and hornaday SST's in my 308 and 6.5x55 very very accurate bellets but too messy! loads of meat damage so if you want something for the wall leave the BT's at home!