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25 October 2004, 23:41
Daniel MEuropean hunting bullets
Found the Mayerl custom bullets on the net someone hunt with these bullets ?
Saludos
Daniel
mayerl bullets26 October 2004, 06:07
konst#1Just heared of the bullet�s one or see an advertising in a sport or hunting tours catalogue, but that�s all.
Guess it kind of the same bullet like
- HDB von Reichneberger
- KJG from Lutz M�ller ( in partnership with G.Schultz from RSA)
or the
Impala Bullets.
In one of our local "german" Forums, you can read a lot about the goods and bads and of course the little "war�s" about which bullet is better or superior against the other.
Here are the web adresses, as far as i know or found.
http://www.impalabullets.co.za/ in english
http://www.impalabullets.at/ in german
http://home.snafu.de/l.moeller/Kupferjagdgeschosse.htm in german
btw interesting side, as long as u understand german
.
At
http://home.snafu.de/l.moeller/Kupfergeschosse.htm#Reichenberg-HDB you can see something like a bullet chart of th edifferent Projectiles..
Cheers
Konstantin
26 October 2004, 23:19
Daniel MViele Danke Kontstantin
Saludos
Daniel
27 October 2004, 04:31
HjortejegerMayerl have in common with Tonheim bullets, a small customm bullet maker in Norway.
www.arms-ammo.no Click on the green text,unforunately it is in norwegian ,but you can find pictures of the bullets, new and some expanded bullets mostly taken froom norwegian reed deer.
27 October 2004, 11:20
JefferyDenmarkI have not used or hunted with these bullets but I have used the Impala bullets and they are very accurate.
I am also in the process of making my own bullets based on a disign cross bread GS custom Barnes triple shock X and impala and lost river balistic J36
Well here they are:
Brass Copper and brass and nickel mix.
For more info lok under bullet making
Cheers,
Andr�
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27 October 2004, 21:25
<JOHAN>Andr�
Looks alright
Have you named this revolutionising creations yet?
Now, how is the "long rifle" project going?
Cheers
/ JOHAN
27 October 2004, 23:04
JefferyDenmarkJohan
I have not named the bullets yet
But will soon
The long rifle is coming slow and steady I am in the process of getting the stock blank this week or next week.
I am further more looking at the different styles of shape.
Cheers,
Andr�
27 October 2004, 23:48
GBFShould work as efficiently as danish sm�rebr�d with too much mayo...enters easily with painful results
but seriously they look good, you must post the results after testing.
Regards
28 October 2004, 00:03
<JOHAN>Andr�
Soo it will be 8X68S or any other caliber?
Has your friend chronographed the CDP ammo loaded in the "black monster" Does it live up to the printed charts?
Cheers
/ JOHAN
28 October 2004, 00:16
JefferyDenmarkJOHAN
Yes the longrifgle will be in 8x68s naturely
My friend has not chronographed the CDP ammo in the black monster. but I will do it when I get the longrifle done.
I will also make a bullet for the 8x68s fast real fast High BC and max penetration, moderat expansion.
The blaser CDP ammo is top draw no doubt there
If they made for the .500 Jeffery I would buy a BOX
Cheers,
Andr�
28 October 2004, 08:20
<JOHAN>Andr�
Tempting... I have 8X57 IS that is doomed to be recamberd or rebarreled
Will you go for 70 or 75 cm barrel?
It's RUAG CDP ammo
Cheer
/ JOHAN
28 October 2004, 11:10
JefferyDenmarkJohan
I will go for the 29" barrel 75cm
Cheers,
Andr�
31 October 2004, 20:39
Gina SchultzKonst,
Please note that there is no connection between GS Custom Bullets and Mr. Lutz Moeller of KJG. No partnership, no agreement or anything else. My father invited Mr. Moeller to hunt with us during the winter of 2003 as he expressed an interest in distributing our product in Europe and he visited with us for a week. Upon his return to Germany, he lodged a patent application for our exact drive band design and started producing bullets that are close copies of our HV bullets. Fortunately there are some design elements that escaped his attention and are not included in the bullets he produces.
The information regarding GS Custom (Gerard Schultz) on Mr. Moeller's website contains errors and is therefore not reliable information.
31 October 2004, 20:43
ErikDGina,
Do you have a distributor in Scandinavia?
Erik D.
31 October 2004, 21:59
Gina SchultzYes, we have.
Click here.01 November 2004, 00:16
jpbHi Gina
They don't list .358 bullets! Don't they know Sweden is the home of the .358 Norma Mag?!
jpb
Quote:
Yes, we have.
Click here.
01 November 2004, 11:51
Gerardjpb,
I am checking back on Gina's behalf. This is partially our fault as well as the fact that the 358 Norma has a bore and groove specification all of it's own. The 350 Mag Rigby and 9x57 are 9.060mm, the 35 Whelen, 35 Rem and 350 Rem Mag are 9.070mm and the 358 Norma is 9.100mm. Check the
spec sheet here. . The market for a bullet that is usable in just one caliber is not a priority with most manufacturers. I only completed the development of a dedicated 358 Norma bullet in September this year and we listed it on our
Tech Data page and
Order Page early this month. Check with Jaktkulor when they are placing their next order. I am under correction but I think we may be the only manufacturer with bullet dedicated to the 358 Norma Mag.
12 November 2004, 18:06
Gerard460wby,
The link you gave is for bullets with grooves in them. They are similar to ours only in the fact that they are not smooth. The way a grooved bullet and a drive band bullet like our HV and FN works, is very dissimilar.
12 November 2004, 21:22
ErikDQuote:
The way a grooved bullet and a drive band bullet like our HV and FN works, is very dissimilar.
Gerard,
Can you explain?
Erik D.
17 November 2004, 10:19
GerardGrooved bullet - A normal profile bullet with grooves cut into the shank. The ogive meets the shank at a diameter equal to the groove diameter of the barrel. Grooves in the bullet shaft are cut to a depth that that bears no relationship to the bore diameter of the barrel. The total grooved area is less than the total remaining shaft area.
Drive band bullet - The bullet is manufactured to a diameter that conforms to the bore diameter of the barrel. The ogive terminates at a diameter that equals the bore diameter of the barrel and immediately steps up to a band at barrel groove diameter with a series of bands following the first. The total drive band area is less than the remaining shaft area of the bullet.
When a grooved bullet is driven from the case, through the throat of the barrel and into the rifling, the lands of the barrel engraves a portion of the ogive, the first section of shaft up to the first groove and then the shaft from groove to groove.
When a drive band bullet is driven along the same path, only the drive bands are engraved while the shaft of the bullet rides on the faces of the lands of the barrel.
The advantages of drive bands are:
Less pressure is required to get the bullet through the throat. This increases speed while peak chamber pressure remains at safe levels.
Barrels run cooler with less throat erosion and less fouling.
The pressure curve rises smoothly. This causes less vibration within the system and increases accuracy.
See
this page and then repeat the test with a smooth or grooved bullet. The difference is readily apparent.
26 November 2004, 10:52
JefferyDenmarkGerard
This is the 3rd design of my bullet.
I an also working on a cup point solid bullet.
Go to bullet making sectio for more info.
First run of cup point solid bullet. Needs R&D.
Evolution of my Square hole bullet.
PS I based my grooves on the info you posted
Quote:
Grooves in the bullet shaft are cut to a depth that that bears no relationship to the bore diameter of the barrel. The total grooved area is less than the total remaining shaft area.
Cheers,
Andr�
06 December 2004, 09:12
460wbyGerard.
Of course!!
I can clearly see the differens.
Thanks!
08 December 2004, 08:23
JefferyDenmarkThanks for the link.
Maybe my bullets will work like that
The petals faling off might not be a bad thing.
I would however like for them to stay on.
Cheers,
Andr�