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Originally posted by GBF:
This would be a question for Johan to answer

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Well, your are most likely right

I have promised my self to avoid even bothering with such sub standard stuff.

GBF, you of all should get one of these dinky toy's, it would match your lifestyle

Just kidding

/ JOHAN

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Originally posted by JJP:
Does anyone have any experience with Blaser combination guns - particularly the 670 or 700?

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JJP, since you are not getting a ton of other useful replies, I might try my hand. If I'm not much mistaken the "700" series was the series of combination guns prior to the new "90" series (i.e. BBF 95, BBF 97 etc etc). Is that also your understanding? (I don't know about the 670, so comments below apply to 700 only)

If yes, then these guns came with the (then) standard Blaser cocking system, soldered barrels, the SLK Blaser trigger system and (possibly) with one of the earlier Blaser mounts (e.g. BBSM or BSM). Obviously, it is also possible to find a gun with a non-Blaser mount on it. In Europe, this could typically be an EAW mount of some sort, or even a claw mount.

In general, the 700 series sold well, and was a common occurrence on the range and in the hunting fields of Central Europe. They were regarded as well made guns, but perhaps not of the same "class" as some of the other brands - where manufacturing was still directed towards gunsmithing traditions (e.g hand fitting).

Combination guns with soldered barrels always suffer from the necessity of letting the rifle barrel cool off before a second shot is fired to verify accuracy. This is a general problem with soldered barrels, but is more of a problem on the range than in the field. My drilling has soldered barrels, and it has never bothered me the least when hunting.

The Blaser over-and-under combinations traditionally had only one "lock", so you had to re-cock if you wanted to fire both rifle and shot barrel. Not a great problem IMHO.

I have always liked the Blaser cocking system, although activating the cocking lever on these earlier models took a bit more power compared to the system currently in production. Some women had trouble cocking the guns. Make sure you cock *before* you mount the gun, that makes it a lot easier. De-cocking was typically done with a little lever on top of the cocking piece. You have to hold your thumb against the cocking lever to avoid it noisily releasing at this point in time. Technique can be picked up in 5 minutes of trial and error. Most likely, the cocking lever will automatically return to its "uncocked position" (ready to cock, when you open the gun (e.g. for a reload).

The SLK trigger system was one of the first "modern" trigger systems for combination guns. It was generally well thought of and produces very acceptable triggers. If I'm not much mistaken, a point of the SLK was to avoid having to use set triggers (shudder )

The earlier Blaser mounts such as BBSM were of good quality. Even after Blaser stopped using them, they were still being installed on guns of other manufacture. I have one on my Krieghoff drilling, and it provides excellent service.

All in all, I think one can summarize it as "good guns, if not necessarily the most upmarket ones" from a time period stretching all the way into the early 90'ies.

- mike

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Originally posted by JJP:

It seems strange that you would have to break the gun to fire the shotgun after firing the rifle (as an example). The rifle has two triggers. I'll have to investigate a bit further.

It also have a dovetail system for mounting a scope.

Any idea how the Blasr 700 would compare to BRNO offerings?

I own a Suhl drilling and am very pleased with the fit and finish - remarkable.

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Originally posted by 1894:
There are some of us who would like to know what such a mature hunter uses so that we may emulate you.

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Well, if I'm right, you got four Argentine mausers and one blaser kiplauf Have I found a weak spot I got three Brno ZG-47 and two others rifles, they are not blasers. The rest is secret

As I have stated before that the ONLY blaser I could thing of owning is a kiplauf with steel receiver and 0% plastic or aluminium.

Enlighted ?

/ JOHAN

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Originally posted by 1894:
As one who shoots ballistic tips from his Blaser...

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Originally posted by 1894:
As one who shoots ballistic tips from his Blaser in between sacrificing children to Satan

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Finally someone who admits, no water test, no bon fire I have suspected this a long time, witchcraft

Comparing blaser with ballistic tip is like asking for ice water in hell. Ballistic tip is a great bullet for the right animals

/ JOHAN

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