I have a freind in texas who has special permits to shoot pigs from a hellecopter. I don't think most Texans view this as sporting rather necissary in some cases. The same is true when useing assult rifles. Keep in mind that although some use these for hunting others in texas are useing bow and arrow. That's something thats also illeagle in Germany.

I think most of us Americans understand sportsmanship evan if we arn't familar with some of the traditions but forget Jager Deutsch. I even don't think most Germans understand that.

Monastery- Forester Are you a Forester or a berufsjager. Iassume your a forester. Are you on a state forest or privat. One of my best freinds is a forestdirector in Bayern. It's a beutifull alpine area but alas no pigshellecopter

AKshooter, yes, I`m a forester in the flat northern Germany, perhaps some of our UK-friends know something about the SLA-Training-area, there is my "Revier". We have a lot of boars, red stags and roe deers.

Please, I hope that I was not misunderstanding: I don´t want to say, that we hunt better, we do it in an other way than our Texan guys!
I forgot: I`m on a state forest!

monastery forester
your user name remindes me of my first roe deer hunt. I was on a very nice pasture surounded by evergreen trees and at the far end of the pasture was a convent. When I shot the buck I remember seeing a Nun come out to a balcony to see what we were shooting at. I wonder if I should be called "convent hunter" I think that was a common event in that village. I allways had good success while hunting the continent but I had to return to Europe 4 more times before I bagged a boar.

Monastery Forester,

Thank you for the detailed discription of your hunting, it is very interesting. The tradition sounds great!
Do you all have a problem with the pigs over populating? The reason we hunt, shoot is a better term in this situation, from helicopters and use ARs is the fact we have a severe problem with over population. Our female pigs become reproductive at 8 monthes old and go on to have (3) litters per year with as many as (8) piglets surviving in each. You start out with a nice little herd and it a couple of years you have a real problem with pigs. I love to hunt pigs by spot/stalk but too many of them can really damage a landscape in a hurry. Last year in one hours time I viewed 166 pigs in one 27 acre field!

Perry:
Your description renders exactly - and I repeat: EXACTLY - the same problematic situation as in Germany, concerning boar management.

This has also influenced hunting style. Monastery Forester's description has very little to do with today's reality of boar culling (not hunting) in the vast majority of Germany's regions. One may be critical of this, but it's a fact.

Carcano

ALL
The game that has been discussed here would fall very fast to the 45-70 {US}..
There has been many animals over the last 100yrs who have been shot..The
body drops and the sprit continues on..
AK

Carcano91,
When I was in High school some 20 years ago it was a real treat to shoot a pig at our ranch in South Texas. We would pass up big bucks for the RARE opportunity to shoot at a pig. Now our deer hunts are sometimes ruined by huge herds of pigs running deer off a field or out of a sendero.
AK,
Agreed. I have shot one pig with a 45-70, it went clean through head to tail. A good friend of mine hunts with a 45-70 in a "Quigley" gun. Pretty fun to shoot.

Perry

Perry, I know more about the "hunting-experience" of Mr.Carcano!!!!! I don`t want to say more about this!

You know zero about that, Mr. Hyde. And better leave comments on boar hunting in Germany to your twin, Klosterförster Dr. Jekyll.

As to the present situation of boar culling, the following comment, brief and poignant as it is, sums it up nicely. The author Hürsch - incidentally - is a very conservative Austrian hunter who espouses a noble yesteryear understanding of "Weidwerk" which I can and do highly respect - and defend -, though it's not exactly my own. But unlike Monastery Forester, he knows the world outside. And he sees the problems astutely as they are.

http://forum.wildundhund.de/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?...ic&f=48&t=000608&p=7

Carcano

Dear Mr. Forumskaschperl, unlike you, I have hunted boars together with Mr. Hürsch in my area! And I have seen no difference opinion with him in hunting boars. And you are right, Hürsch is in contrary to you an experienced hunter! It is good, that you have your own opinion, but we know that you have nearly no practical experience!

Both Hürsch and Klosterjäger have indeed more hunting experience than I (not in terms of anciennité, but as to intensity and frequency). And obviously *much* more than you, MF.

The rest of what you wrote is hardly worthy of the electrons wasted in the production process ;-). Trying to delude foreign readers about the reality of boar hunting in Germany, and spouting forth phrases that would have better belonged in the 1930s (when the German hunting law was enacted, and wildlife conditions were still different in some respects), is not exactly what I would call sensible contributions.

Carcano

Carcano, perhaps you confuse something : the so called "Lüneburger Model", the model for the wild-boar-management we use, has nothing to do with the "Reichsjagdgesetz" from 1930. This model was developped in 70 of the last century, far away from 1930!!
And think for the german byword:Schuster, bleib bei Deinen Leisten! In english: don´t speak about things, which you doesn´t understand!