Chris,

Thanks for sending - I tried it, it's good fun!

I can make perfect neck shots on this every time. How good am I?

Then your really good, now think of doing it ie hitting a thing the size of a golfball making some 25 Km/h or 13mph across a narrow road.



I find that returning to the game from time to time makes me think bullet placement, bullet placement ....

There is a nother game to try as well.

This time US-made

http://www.bowsite.com/bowsite/features/articles/deer/deergeometry

I have a 96 as top score, let just say it took a while to get there.

Best regards Chris.

The h-mantel has a very bad reputation is Europe and is forbidden in most driven hunts. It has the bad habitof exploding,eviating from its path at any encounter with even the slightest obstacle (grass, leaves, 3mm branches). It is dangerous in driven hunts and when stalking in woods it may happen that you only wound the animal with pieces of the bullet.

When people mean behind the schoulder it is ment to shoot at the hight of the elbow (inner side of front leg) in the heart lung region.

The T-mantel is a good stopper,and not as dangeous as the h-mantel. The t-mantel will rarely exit on game exceeding 90kg.

If you want to use the rws the Tig or now Id is good, use the 165 or 175 grains. The evo is an alternative with good reputation, but i have never used it. Norma oryx is also an option.

Sorry for my bad english

M98, 72 on my first go, 95 on the second.

I obviously think differently about shot placement than a bow hunter might.

Hi Guys

Great couple of games. Tried to simulate night shooting on the boar by closing my eyes. As predicted scores went down

Mark

Here's one more: http://www.metsastajaliitto.fi/

Click on the icon in the left corner of the page having a small picture of moose and a crosshair. There are four animals, but text only in Finnish, unfortunately.

Thanks JTH!


There really is something to say about anatomical knowledge ie pullet placement.....

I seriously would have wounded that bear, the shot through the shoulders will only nick the vitals..

thanks again.

Chris

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Originally posted by JTH:
Here's one more: http://www.metsastajaliitto.fi/

Click on the icon in the left corner of the page having a small picture of moose and a crosshair. There are four animals, but text only in Finnish, unfortunately.

Sorry to hear about that Mark,
I always tell people to shoot low in the shoulder, the heart of a boar isn`t as large as people think in proportion to the size of the animal,and it`s very low.
Another thing that may have caught you out is when judging the depth of the shoulder, did you remember that the bristles on his back stand up 3/4 inches? This does catch alot of people out.
Also, same as alot of animals,if it`s still stood up after the first shot, give it another.
It does sound to me that you may have clipped the spine or been very close to it, this can drop an animal like a stone, only for it to get up after the shocks wore off.

[IMG]waynes one[/IMG]
This is pic of a 365 (gralloched) shot in U.K

hmmmm, not easy to put pics on here if your a technophobe like moi !

Hi Guys

Two things happened today.
1. My wife found me an emergency stand-by Keiler

2. I shot two fallow at 200m and 175m from my highseat behind the house this morning with the same load that the boar ignored. I think the bullet deflected forward round the ribcage and hit the vertebral spine where it stopped hence no exit. Just a freak of ballistics, the mistake was not following up fast enough.


Mark

Hi John

If you want to give me a master class then I'm only in the next county. Makes more sense than being left to ones own devices in a German forest until it goes wrong.

Regards

Mark

Mark, you know exactly what the words "Scharfer Keiler" mean??

Hey MF

Possibly. and I also know what 'Dreck Sau' means .

Mark

Between these two is a very big difference, one is perhaps a compliment!

Hey MF

I didnt feel too much like a schafer kieler the evening that boar ran away.
Seriously why does the schonzeit on most large game start in February? Is it because the treibjagd is so effective or it just gets too cold to sit in a kanzel all night?

Mark

Schonzeit: the chance to shoot a boar (Bache) which has little "Frischlinge" is very great in february/march/april.
Yes, the nights are very cold, so it is better to show your wife that you are a "scharfer Keiler" than to sit on a kanzel!!
Where in "Niedersachsen" are you hunting?

I go to an area of forestry betweeb Bramsche and Osnabruck. Its very convenient as I have a lot of family in Osnabruck and it gives an opportunity for my kids to meet their German cousins, Great Aunts etc. All Hajo's childern play the jagdhorn and in the evening Obstler/bier flows.
I now have a Jagdschein so hunting opportunities are going to become more frequent which is why I bought the 7x64.
By the way for my next boar hunt by moonlight would you recomment the 7x64 or take my 375 H+H downloaded a bit with 17.5 gm bullets. Similar energy to the 9.3x62??

Regards

Mark

Mark,
happy to see that your boar lost has been an episode. I can say that during the last week I had a despondency moment when I shooted without hitting a big female of of boar, on last Wednesay, and a day of happiness and satisfation on Sunday when I bagged a good male of boar.
I still do not understand how I could miss the shot on Wednesday, because the distance was not great, about 50 meters, the boar was slow and I had all the time to aim, but I missed it. I think that the bulllet passed under the beast. The weather was horrible, windy and rainy and cold.

On Sunday, instead, it has been perfect, by my opinion. The boar came slowly thru the wood arriving close the gravel road, it stopped to take a look before cross the road, I was in alert because another hunter shooted it, I shooted and hitted it very well in the chest. After some minutes the dogs arrived without barking. The boar weight was near to 100kg. Unfortunately it did not have big tusks.

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Originally posted by MarkH:
By the way for my next boar hunt by moonlight would you recomment the 7x64 or take my 375 H+H downloaded a bit with 17.5 gm bullets. Similar energy to the 9.3x62??

...no need for .375 (unless you want to) - just use 7x64, it is a fine caliber for the job...

I still prefer 9.3x62 on boars. I have a 7x64, it shoot very well, but it does not convince me...

Hiya Mark, I don`t do masterclasses, but any way I do like to help people in any way possible though, so give me a call or email, I presume my email is available on here? I don`t know as I`m a technophobe when it comes to these P.C. thingies