I have been invited to participate in a driven hunt for Boar and Red Deer after my hunt for Southern Spanish Ibex. This is an added bonus and I'm really excited about the extra hunt. Has anyone on the Forum been on one of these hunts? If so please post information about your hunt. I have read a bit about these hunts and would appreciate any first hand advice.\

Hawkeye47

Hola Hawk

A good Monteria it's something impressive , in a good one you meet early in the morning around 8 am to have a breakfast( Migas ) , in a meeting point or the house of the farm ( Cortijo ), then start the draw of the shooting places , and hunters start to go to the assigned places , it take time , and then at 12 AM start the beaters with dogs , usually no less than 20 realas ( dog groups, each reala have 25 dogs )and the hunters start to shoot immediately , they end at 3/4 PM ( depend of the area ) , beaters pick up the deer and boars , and follow wounded game ( please don�t follow any game in the Monteria wait until it�s finish ) , and you are invited to have good lunch at the Cortijo , waiting the game to arrive to made what it�s called here to made a � game carpet � , photos , cut the heads of the Deer a Boars , end of the day , you really need a rifle with good stopping power , as they game came fast and you need to shoot in movement , it�s not easy to put the bullet in the right place , minimum a 30�06 better a 9,3 x 62 , depending of the area the best a SXS 9,3 x 74 R .

Suerte

Daniel

Daniel M,

Thanks for the info. Are these hunts usually to cull an excess of animals in an area or is this just a Spanish custom. From what I have read about them they are very popular and I feel honored to have been invited to participate.

Hawkeye47

Hawk

These is the way the central south Spanish hunters hunt big game , ( to cull females it's another way ) , north of spain ( where I live ) hunters don't have realas , they use trained dog to follow the scence of the boars then with 10 dogs it's enough , in central south spain the dog need to see the game and then they run behind it .
Popular , yes , from � 100 to � 6000 , ask if the farm it's fenced or not , if fenced you'll know how many deers and boars should be killed , a good one 25 / 30 hunters 10 to 20 boars , and 30 to 40 deers , if boars are feeded , duplicate the qty , plenty of ammo it's OK , maybe you need three / four round per deer/ boar , and you can have three to five oportunities if you are lucky to be in the right place .

Saludos

Daniel

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Daniel M,

I have seen adds of PH's selling these hunts for big bucks!!! I will be the guest of 2 PH's in Spain and after the hunts in Spain they will visit my ranch in the US and be my guest for Deer hunting. I have hunted Worldwide but never in Spain, so I'm anxious to experience the hunt and meet my new friends. I have my Airline tickets in hand and am waiting for October 28th to depart.
Thanks again for your posts.

Hawkeye47

Hawheye

Daniel is right. You need good stoping power for the monteria. The animals may run chased by the dogs ...be careful not to shoot one of the latter�� You must not shoot if the dogs are on a boar or deer.

Shooting distance is not large; it will depend on luck and the place they send you to, but shots over 150 m. are not common; you may shoot as close as 20 m.
. Which caliber are you planning to use?

regards.

alg,

I will be using Francisco's rifle due to the excessive paperwork to bring my personal guns to Spain. I will be useing a 7MM Rem. Mag for the Ibex but I'm not sure what they plan on me shooting for the driven hunt. I have always taken my own guns when I've hunted other countries and
wish I could have on this trip. I don't have a problem with running shots with the guns I'm used to shooting but I don't know how well I will shoot a borrowed gun. I am looking forward to seeing Spain and experiencing the hunt.

Hawkeye47

Hawkeye,

I hunt in Spain three or four times a year and never have a problem entering Spain with guns. You need a copy of your Spanish hunting license and the name of the farms that you will hunt. You retreive your guns at the Control de Armas in the bag claim area, fill out a simple form, pay a small fee and in about ten minutes your off. Always better to hunt with your own rifle. Spain is next to Africa as my favorite place to hunt.
I hope you enjoy the hunt.

Ed

Hi Allfoden,
Is there English speaking attendants at the airports that can direct a person to the right places? I don't speak any Spanish and I haft to change planes in Madrid.

Hawkeye47

Hawkeye,

Are you changing planes in Madrid for another destination in Spain? Would you be checking your
bags and guns to the final destination? Yes, there are attendants at each of the baggage conveyors that speak english that can direct you to the Control de Armas. The Control de Armas is in the baggage claim area and there is a big sign over the door. Some of the officiers in the Control de Armas speak a little english and with good attitude and some sign language you will do fine. Spanish people are friendly and helpful unlike some of the types at the airport we deal with on our return to the U.S.

We just returned from a 16 day hunt in Spain and had a wonderful time, see my "Spain hunt photos..." post elsewhere in this Forum.

Concerning entering Spain with firearms. We had to get import permits for our guns from the Spanish Embassy before leaving the USA.

The Spanish Consulate in Miami has jurisdiction over most of the southern US. They required NOTARIZED copies of our Passports and USA hunting licenses and further demanded that we provide spanish translations of our USA hunting licenses. In addition, they wanted to know who we were hunting with and where we were going.

Upon arrival in Madrid, you must take the import permit to the Guardia Civil office in the baggage claim area of Terminal 1, give them the import permit, a copy of your SPANISH hunting license, and then pay a fee of several Euros at the Bank Exchange Window in the baggage claim area.

Then you are free to take your guns and begin your Spanish hunting adventure.

We were accompanied by friends from Pennsylvania who dealt with the Spanish Consulate in New York City for their gun permits. The New York Consulate did not demand that they have their US hunting licenses translated into spanish. So depending on which Consulate you deal with, you may be faced with different requirements.

Good luck and have a great hunt!

Hi Mark,

I would have done anything to be able to bring my own guns for the hunt but my host insisted it wasn't worth all the hassle for him.

I saw your pictures from your hunt and it looks like you had a very successful one. Congratulations and many more good hunts in the future.
You mentioned Goat hunting as your next hunt earlier in a post,with whom are you going and in what area? Please give details and post pictures.

Hawkeye47

I don't understand why your Spanish outfitter told you that "it wasn't worth all the hassle for him." You are the one who will deal with the "hassles" not him. All he has to do is send you a copy of your Spanish hunting license. Our outfitter, Alphonso Fabres, just faxed a copy to the Guardia Civil office in the airport on the morning of our arrival.

I will endure any hassle and overcome any obstacle placed in my path to hunt with my own guns. These hunts are too important, long awaited and expensive to trust the outcome to some beat-up, abused, loaner rifle. Even if the loaner rifle is in first-class shape, I still have much more confidence in MY rifle and MY handloaded ammo.

We will be hunting Mtn. Goats in area 6D in Prince William Sound with Darren Byler of Alaskan Adventure Tours. Go to his website www.alaskanadventuretours.com to see photos of the great 60' boat that will take us to the hunting area. My wife, Holly, will spend 7 days on the boat, fishing, kayaking, watching the whales, eagles and bears, fishing and sipping wine in the hot tub on the upper deck while I climb 4-5k ft. and spend 5 days living in a tent chasing the goats around.

It will be our first trip to Alaska, and, if I survive it, I'm sure it won't be the last. I'll post photos and a story on the new Alaska Forum when we get back.

[ 10-09-2003, 16:17: Message edited by: Mark in SC ]

Hawk
A big part of my interest in hunting are my rifles , I read the forums , books , gun magazines and so on , to take the decision of the action type ( Mauser M98 ) the caliber ( 300 H&H and a 9.3 x 64 ) , the type of bullets for each one ( Lapua Mega 185 gr or KS in 250 graIns depending of the area to hunt ) , the scope ( type magnification reticle ) , a custom stock that fit me right , and ended hunting with a borrowed rifle from a rack in a caliber not my choice with an unknown trigger and ammo from a factory box with a bullet not elected by me , just what they have at hand ( or the nearest gunshop , the good one , this with the plastic point , which one ?, Norma. Rem. Winch. ? yes you are right , the plastic one � ) , it�s easy to get the firearms in Spain , don't worry if you don't speak Spanish , at the airport some one will help you , or at least I can send a printed letter in Spanish , you can show to any police after baggage claim , if I can help you e-mail me

Daniel

[ 10-09-2003, 18:51: Message edited by: Daniel M ]

Hawkeye,

I have never been asked for a import permit
for guns in Madrid and I have lost count of the number of time I entered Spain with guns. You definately need a copy of your Spanish hunting license which your PH can obtain for you if you fax him your valid U.S. hunting license. You will also need to know the names of the farms where you will hunt. When you exit Spain go to the Control de Armas office before you check in for the officiers to verify that you are departing with the guns you entered. This is an extremely easy process.

Daniel M.

I was hunting in your part of the country (Burgos area)about two months ago for corzo. A very nice area of Spain and the best wine. We did very well with one corzo a bronze. I was happy with that.

Ed

Felicitaciones and post a photo

Saludos

Daniel

Mark in S.C.

I hunted Alaska a few years back for Moose. You will love it!!! It still is one of my most memorable hunts, not so much because of the Moose I shot but the whole experience. I had a big Grizzly pass by at 10 paces!! He never knew I was there until he was 25 yards past and headed the other way. I had already decided that if he stopped I was shooting him in self defense.
Have a great trip and tell your wife I think she has the best deal on the goat hunt.

Hawkeye47

Update,

I received an e-mail last night detailing the monteria we will be hunting. Over 100 men and 800
dogs will be driving the area. There are reported to be huge numbers of animals in this area. I can't wait to experience this hunt.

I have returned from my hunt in Spain. It was so wet and muddy that we couldn't hunt the Monteria so instead we hunted Red Partridge and Hares. I took a Gold Medal Ibex and a good Red Deer also.
Great hunts.

Congratulation mate, feel free to post some picture too.

I am curious. I have seen a number of web sites that offered hunts in Spain. But I have never seen a price. Just how expensive is it to hunt in Spain. Say for boar and ibex?

Thanks,

Pete

QuailWing,

The trophy fee for the Ibex runs from 6 to 7 thousand and the hunt is around $500 a day. I don't know what the price of the boar hunts are but the monteria hunts are rather expensive.

You can hunt in Monteria for just 60$ (with very few choices of success) or hunt for 6000$ (you'll get at least 4 trophies). You must choose one.

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Here is Hawkeye47 and his trophies. Both of them are very nice.





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