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P.S. The cost of shooting a 22 pointer was close to 20,000 euros!! I'm glad he didn't and we are therefore still solvent.
 
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The animal weighed 320kgs, and was estimated to be about 8-9 yrs old. The hunt involved a lot of walking and no highseats/driving. The forest was very dense and wild and had no man-made pastures or feeding areas.

 
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Phewoooeeeee! Gad, what a stag. Definitely chalk one up for the older generation, m'boy, yer dad's done himself proud. Well done, that man!
 
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Very, very nice!!!

I never came beyond a "Eisprossenzehner" (5x5 without crowns), which suited my wallet better too. For something like that I'd still be paying ;-) I also missed the rut in full swing twice, once through too high temperatures, the second time through incessent rain.

Waidmannsheil to your dad, well done! It's must have been a great experience!

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They also didn't hear much roaring because the stags don't vocalise when wet. Is this common? I always thought it was dependent on temperature.
 
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When the weather goes bad - rain and wind - it is common for things to go quiet, just as warm weather is bad. Fog and damp does not bother them at all, that is red deer weather.

Nice stag. Do you know what the antlers weighed?? Weidmannsheil to your Dad once again.

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Thanks again Mike, in Czechia and Slovakia they rely on CIC points for pricing (I think the final score was 206). What would you estimate the weight to be? It's being put on one of those gothic plaques they sell quite cheap in Slovakia. I am pretty glad he got a nice trophy since I have been taking both our 'turns' at the trigger since the age of 11 when I started hunting. If I had been there, he would have INSISTED that I shoot, so I'm glad my old man got a decent stag of his own.
Anyway, I'm going fallow deer hunting in 3 weeks and will definitely take shots at any red deer that cross paths with me!
 
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Yeah I know about the Czechs' (sp?) preference for CIC - pain in the neck, but there it is . I just thought you might either know the weight, or (if memory serves) the weight is actually a part of the CIC score, and should therefore appear on the scoresheet. Never mind, not so important.

If I was to stick my neck out (always a foolish thing to do, but who can resist ...) and venture a guess at the antler weight (boiled with upper skull), I'd say 8.5-9 kg. Let's see what everybody else estimates, and then ask your Dad what the lowdown is...

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I'm glad my old man got a decent stag of his own


About this "old man" business - your Dad looks a good deal younger than some of us here. So "old man", I take it, is to be taken with a grain of salt...
- mike
 
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Once you are on the wrong side of 60, you become a bona fide old fart in my book
 
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Hey Mike, you may be old but our eye is still good! The actual weight was 8.3 kgs. In my family we are still "primitive hunters" who rely on number of antler tines or maximum spread when engaging in trophy speak.
If I start now and continue annoying assorted family members for a solid year we may go back to Slovakia next year for the sequel.
 
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Hey Mike, you may be old but our eye is still good! The actual weight was 8.3 kgs.



Way cool. I'll tell you what, there is a big uncertainty in guessing antler weight just from the looks of them. Some antlers are a lot heavier than others - looking more or less the same. In (most of ) Central and Eastern Europe, where trophy fees are based on antler weight, needless to say, there is a lot of discussion about "porous" antlers.

But hey, if my guess was in the vicinity of the correct number, I'll naturally use the opportunity to be considered an e-x-p-e-r-t ... - if just for the day

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If I start now and continue annoying assorted family members for a solid year we may go back to Slovakia next year for the sequel.




Plan A!

About "old farts": if your Dad is over 60, then he is keeping up pretty well - at least from what the pictures look like. If you tell him that, he might just agree to your Plan A above... The red deer roar is something to be experienced - rifle in hand!
- mike
 
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Well, there is nothing like getting called in the middle of a Contract law seminar to hear that Dad is sitting next to a 13-14 pt stag in Slovakia...
The congratulations were only half-hearted
I'll give more details and post pics in a bit.
He said it was shot trotting at 90m with a borrowed kiplauf in 7mm remington magnum and 3-10x50 Zeiss scope (didn't I say something about gargantuan scopes on slim single shots a couple of days ago??? Now THIS happens)
The roar is in full swing and many HUGE stags were left to breed, including a....22pt stag! They won't even let him buy it's sheds since they try to track down each set to decide best when to hunt that male.
BTW, can someone find out what medal a 202CIC pt stag will get? I don't speak CIC, but I guess a large 6x7 should score rather well.
 
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BTW, can someone find out what medal a 202CIC pt stag will get? I don't speak CIC, but I guess a large 6x7 should score rather well.



Weidmannsheil to your Dad, that sounds like an awesome hunt. a 202 CIC point stag is a silver medal in the CIC system. Gold starts at 210, if memory serves.

You can download the CIC regs from this page: CIC - that is if you can get it to work. For some reason it balks when I try to open the PDF. I believe it is the "blue book" you want. I think the red book tells you how to score, and the blue book gives you the medal categories...

- mike
 
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