Konst,



I would like to tip you about a bullet we have had really good experiences with this year and that is the Northfork.

It is similar to Trophy Bonded and Rhino in construction and is really easy expanding and gives you 2x diameter from approx 620m/s.



I have used both the 150,165 and 180grs bullet this year in 308,30-06 and 300Win for about 20 different game including Norwegian Moose.



I have tested them in wet paper pulp and they give almost identical performance in velocities from 650-900m/s. Identical diameter but retained weight dropes a few percent when impact velocities is above 860m/s.



I will try to get my camera working to take a few pictures of the few bullets we have managed to recover from game. All but one has been recovered in the rear of game shot from the front. FYI all bullets we have recovered have more than 93% retained weight



Since they have worked so well the gun company I am one of the owners of have decided to bring them to Europe. If you would like to try some I can mail them to you.



In 30-06 I have loaded with 59grs of Vithavouri N-160 behind a 165grs bullet. Gives 880m/s in my Sauer 202.



you will find more info at the NorthFork website www.northforkbullets.com



By the way one of my best friends father inlaw shot more than 100 moose with 180grs Silverblix in 30-06. Neck shots mostly when they where standing for dogs. He liked the rapid expansion.

Yes, curious, or?
Although i have to say that the lung had been hit and was particular destroyed.The stomage haven�t been touches by the bullet, oly the "Kammer", so to say the boiler room. Guess so or so it wouldn�t have get that far.
cheers Konstantin

wow! That is a big exit wound! I guess those broken rib fragments really helped you out...

For an interesting read, try the South Carolina Deer Study

Pete

So, here are the pic�s



Entrance hole:









Exit hole:







After the fur peeled off, Entrance









and Exit













Just curious why the Pt make such a big hole as it left the game. Had nearly the same effect as i shot a faloow calve with my 375 H&H . loaded with a 260grs PT.

Thought it came from the "pressure caverne"..



cheers

Konstantin

Hey just get back from hunting.

Had no luck with the boars but i managed to shoot a roe "calve" (BTW how is it called in english? "hind" or how).

Try to post some pictures later on, so take a look at them.

The group of 3 roes where laying in front of me and have been chased off by a walker after thgey feed, so i had to make a real fast shot on the calve (we call it bock kitz because it was a male), although the angle wasn�t that optimal.

It was standing aproximatelay 80 meters heading half left to me. I aimed behind the right shoulder ,may be a little bit to high (spin had not been touched by the bullet).

The reaction of the calve in the second the shot broke, was "magnificant".

Hit and down, 2 or 3 times litlle bit struggle with the legs and then finished. Have to say i was impressed. One thing that i recognized that i could clearly hear the bullet smashes the ribs.

The entrance wound was bullet diameter by size BUT the exit hole (or better holes) was/were enormous!

The bullet must have hit one or two ribs on which it�s split and so caused the big hole as it left the game.

As i peeled off the fur i took a closer look at the holes. Good thing was, no blood arround the holes. So to say, if u �v liked to "you could have eat the "holes" ". I just have to cut the smashed ribs away and had good venisson without blood or splitter of the fragemented bullet.

will be back with the pic�s as fast as possible

cheers

konst

Wow!! That fallow has some serious mass! Where was it shot? Was it a free ranging herd or a preserve hunt?
A beautiful trophy....

Konst#1,

I used the Partition exclusively for many years in my 30-06 but stopped because of what I found to be ecessive meat damage. Especially on quartering shots from the front one usually had to cut away the entire front quarter due to blood shot meat from the splintering front half of the bullet. But your fallow looks really nice?? Is the bullet going slow or is the lot you have harder than the ones I'm used to ?

The nice thing with NP is that it will usually almost always give you instant one shot kill with good penetration.

I have a very good friend who is probably one of the best hunters around who shoots more than 100 big game a year. He swear by 260 NP in his 375H&H for all big game within the Norwegian borders.

And it's hard to discuss with someone who's got that much experience, even though I try from time to time

Konst,

Hello my friend. Fallow are a deer I love to stalk. I have shot them with 243, 6mm rem, 6.5x55, 7x57 and 9.3x62. I can tell no difference in killing power other than over the years the 243 and 6mm seem to take a little longer to decisively down a beast.

For a fallow to fall down and get back up again is not unheard of. 60m is quite frequent - they are a tough deer especialy in the rut.

Your shot looks lung, liver and the front part of the stomach - the reaction you describe would occur whatever the calibre.

I have for years used 150 Grn. Nosler Partitions on Texas Whitetailed Deer. A few years ago I had the fortune to stalk and shoot a nice Axis deer at a friend's ranch near Abilene, Texas.

Needless to say the Axis was much heavier than our small Whitetails however the 150 grain Nosler Partition broke both shoulder on a high shot, dropping the animal where it stood.

The performance was classic Nosler Partition, complete penetration, slightly larger exit hole, internal damage to the animal.

Not sure why, but I've always been partial to the 150 grain Partitions for deer size game. Kills have been where they stood or a few step beyond.

The rifle I use is a 300 Apex. Basicly a No. 2 Short Ackley Magnum, a 308 Norma Mag with a steeper set back shoulder.

Perhaps a look at the 150 grain Nosler Partitions would be what you need? Just my opine.

I shot a few bucks this weekend with a 270 and Federal Powershok ammo. The 270 is considered a cannon in Ireland, but even then, all bucks shot in the heart/lungs (even at 10 meters) managed to make it a few (5-10) paces before croaking. When you forget to mark the place the beast was standing, those few paces really make you sweat for a few minutes. I thought that with a quick opening bullet at near muzzle velocity, the shock should bowl over prickets, wrong again....
The only instant kills are head/neck/spine shots....

Agreed... In my experience, Mainly with my namesake, there is no set course of events after a shot!!!

I shot a beast last year which my stalking buddy was sure I had gut shot when he found the beast dead about 500-600yds away from the shot. The first shot had downed a pricket after 3 steps, and my second shot at the next buck went so far...

Obviously he was pumped after the first shot at his mate but when we gralloched we found the heart and lungs were completely destroyed. Another reason to always have a dog with you if possible.

Personally I favour a light bullet on Fallow and Roe. I thnk that it will break up quickly do lots of damage to the vitals. I had problems with NORMA 100gr softs, and moved to Sako Gamehead 90gr with excellent results.

There will always be one buck to prove you wrong no matter what your view!!

FB