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What can you guys tell me about Malcom and his business? We're talking about a combination hunt for free ranging Chinese Water Deer and Muntjac.


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Posts: 4782 | Location: Story, WY / San Carlos, Sonora, MX | Registered: 29 May 2002Reply With Quote
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Both species can be found in the same areas in prolific numbers. The chances of good quality trophies on such a hunt are probably higher percentage than any other free range hunt.

Having said all of the above - I have no knowledge of the individual you mention. However, to have access to 180,000 acres in the UK is unusual.





Best of luck.

rgds Ian


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Unusual? I think the word might be " fibbing!" stir
 
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IanF, Great looking trophies! I hope to be so fortunate.

brass thief, easy son, we might want to learn more about a man before stiring the pot so hard.


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Posts: 4782 | Location: Story, WY / San Carlos, Sonora, MX | Registered: 29 May 2002Reply With Quote
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"We have access to, and lease over 180,000 acres of top quality hunting areas"

As you can see, this includes land they 'have access to' so if he has ties with just a few highland estates or forestry blocks he could reach that number....
 
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SBT,

I know Malcolm and shall be seeing him next week when he will be up in the Highlands culling Sika hinds on an estate that he has the sole shooting rights on. I do not know the exact amount of ground that he has shooting rights on, but I do know it is a lot, and he has access to all 6 UK deer species. He has ground from the West Country in England right up to the Highlands of Scotland. He was up a few weeks back with a couple of American clients after Sika stags, which they got.

As regards to clients for his culling next week, he has none I believe, he does however have a few newish stalkers, that will be coming for their first Sika, who are being provided with this opportunity for free. Anyone who is prepared to help new stalkers in this way is, in my view, a good and decent man.

I got no axe to grind here, I do not shoot on Malcolms ground and benefit in no way from his company. I am just telling you what I know, and I can say I honestly believe that if he has promised you CWD and Muntjac then that is what you will get.

John


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Thank you JAYB. And also thankyou to the potentail client who told me of the site and of the views of the mis informed.
I have been running a small but succesful outfitting/hunting business for 25 years. I have nothing to proove to anyone on this site or any other, but I question peoples motives when they make comments without even knowing me.

For your information my largest area I have access to, and the SOLE RIGHTS to take European Red Deer is 120,000 acres which belongs to the Duke of Northumberland. This along with 44,500 acres on the west coast of Scotland and various other estates easily makes up the acerage that is called into question.

I have three personal leases, which are entirely mine, totalling 9000 acres, plus for Chinese Water deer I have a large area which I have access to through the landowner and gamekeeper, along with another 12000 acres nearby for Muntjac.

I have also hunted Africa 6 times, and have three very good agents in the States, Henley and Delemare Adventuring, Atchesons and Safari Outfitters, all of whom are reputable agents who would not touch anyone with a barge pole if they were not who they calim to be.

Therefore gentlemen, i think my advice for Brass thief is to change his name to Brass Neck, as you have to have some neck to make comments about people who you know nothing about. In future choose your word wisely!!
 
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Oh and 1894MK2 who is Griff? never heard of the man, never had anyone of that name as a client. Hmm borne of experience, I think someone is telling you porkies matey? or perhaps its a figment of your over reactive imagination, I would be interested to know who he is ? perhaps you will enlighten me?
 
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I try and choose my words carefully - knowing that such a scenario could well explain the acreage! Smiler

Malcolm - are you also the curator of the Powell-Cotton museum?

Rgds Ian


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What do you think!! My point of choosing words wisely was aimed not at you, but at 1894 MK2 and Brass Neck (oops sorry brass thief, quite a few of those about at the moment with all the scrap disapearing) Wink
 
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hi malcom

do you have a webpage with contact info im getting interested here.

regards peter
 
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Excellent - in that case I look forward to making your acquaintance one day.

For those that are not aware - Quex house is one of the 'must see' destinations for anyone with any interest in hunting/shooting.

http://www.quexmuseum.org/museum/animals.htm

A world class collection of taxidermy and arms etc - all collected and assembled by Maj Powell Cotton.

Rgds Ian


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www.ukoutfitters.co.uk

I have contacts in Finland who will be pleased to give you references if you wish. They have hunted with me twice. This season 5 came over to my lease in Scotland for a trophy Sika Stag each, we shot 6 stags in 5 days. With 3 guides taking people out, staying on the property part of which is old Caledonian forest, I have leased and managed the entire estate for the last 5 years.
 
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Sikamalc, please accept my apologies for my flippant and premature remarks. I"m sure you are aware that there are many outftitters and guides who advertise much more than they have, both in acreage and game.It is uncommon for anyone to have access to that amount of acreage in a country as small as the UK, and it is difficult to build up such a portfolio.
I wish you and SBT good luck and a good hunt, and I stand deservedly corrected!
good shooting
 
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That was stand up brass thief - thank you.


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Thank you Brass thief, apology accepted. I agree that it is slightly unusual to have access to so much ground, but it has taken me many years to achieve this, hard work, and no uncertain amount of money and time. I also have made a great many friends, without whom I would not be able to arrange and conduct many of the trips I arrange. And it is to them that I owe a debt of gratitude, in fact 3 of my best friends stalk for me and help me with my clients.

I do count myself a very fortunate man with the many adventures and experiances I have had, and I am very much in favour of trying to put something back into the sport that i love so much and to help those that are struggling to get a foot hold on the hunting ladder.

I wish you a succesful stalking season, good health and good luck, and thankyou once again for your apology, I am grateful.
 
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Sikamalc,
I,m Griff. I don't think that we have ever met, I am the Basc deer Co-ordinator for BASC on the Isle of Arran, 1894 may have you confused with some of the other disreputable characters that lay claim to having large tracts of land, and unfortunately there are several unsavoury characters within the hunting fraternity, having never met you or heard any negative comments about you I will leave it to the rest on this forum.. However should you be an alias of Roger Buss or Peter Carr, then i think I would have something to say!!!

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I was more than a little worried that this thread would deteriorate into a slanging match, but felt it should be allowed to run without intervention.

However, I'm glad to see the gentlemanly ethos that is a trade mark of this forum and the people who post here, has prevailed...

Many thanks to all,

Regards,

Peter
 
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I am not associated with Roger Buss or Peter Carr, I have never met either of the two gentlemen, although I have heard of them and their activities.

I gave a weeks stalking away in Scotland on a lease that I had for 9 years,about 5 years ago for a young shot in the BASC magazine. The young man that won the competition was photographed with myself with his first Red Hind and a small article appeared in the young shots magazine. Unfortunatly the young man was killed in a tragic car accident about 2 months later.

What I do not like is people making assumptions about people they have never met or heard of. I admit there are some dodgy characters about, dont worry I have met most of them, and I do not tolerate them in any shape or form. I cannot afford to with the areas and leases I have at stake, but I find it rather alarming when people on a site like this start making acusations about someone they do not know. It is rather dangerous ground to walk on!

Having said that, I am also glad to see that they are man enough to apologise, for which again I thank you.
 
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Sikamalc,
I mean't no association with the two names mentioned!
This is probably not the welcome you expected from this site, so please don't judge it on this single thread.
There are members who are new to the site and stalking, if we steer them towards good stalking and give them good information,then the purpose of this site has been fulfilled.

I would not be offended by someone asking, do you know anthing about this person,it happens on a regular basis.

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A good point - Malcolm, it may well be a little tardy.... however, welcome to the site.

I believe you will enjoy the discussions and have not doubt there are elements you are very well qualified to comment upon.

Rgds from the SW

Ian


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Griff, I wholeheartedly agree with your comments, and I have no intention of judging the site by this thread.

Having read some of the other posts on this site I can tell its a very good and informative site. I am already a long standing member of "The Stalking Directory" site, and have along with a number of other good people off the site given opportunities to others less fortunate with stalking possabilities, and I will continue to do so in the very near future for two individuals who are a couple of nice lads.

Thank you for the welcome to the site, I hope I will be able to add some usefull information and a helping hand along the way.

Griff I know what you meant about any association with the two names you mentioned, and I would not want to comment about what I have heard and known to have happened. After many years in this business there is not much that I have heard that suprises me!
 
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Hello Malcolm...
SBT,
I've hunted with Malcolm and one day I'll hunt with him again.. Very organized.. The Hunts are Fair Chase and Fun.. Malcolm is very Witty..
AK
 
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Thanks AKrange. I've been away a few days as my wife was involved in a one-car roll over and fractured her neck. As such, my stalking plans have come to a temporary hold, but when I'm back on track, I think Malcom will be the man.

P.S. My wife will be fine. Surgery went well. Her vertabrae had jumped, but have been put back and C-4 through 6 have been fused.


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Griff, I wholeheartedly agree with your comments, and I have no intention of judging the site by this thread.

Having read some of the other posts on this site I can tell its a very good and informative site. I am already a long standing member of "The Stalking Directory" site, and have along with a number of other good people off the site given opportunities to others less fortunate with stalking possabilities, and I will continue to do so in the very near future for two individuals who are a couple of nice lads.

Thank you for the welcome to the site, I hope I will be able to add some usefull information and a helping hand along the way.

Griff I know what you meant about any association with the two names you mentioned, and I would not want to comment about what I have heard and known to have happened. After many years in this business there is not much that I have heard that suprises me!


I was as Griff suggested confusing you with the two aforementioned individuals. My apologies, I have removed the post.

I was also guilty of applying the problems of other stalkers with huge amounts of land (read Herne) to you which was unfair - sorry.
 
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Well you have finally showed up here old friend. I have mentioned you in this forum before. I have hunted with Malcolm's operation a couple of times (I"ll get back for the MJ), this is one of the men that got me started in Africa as he introduced me to Mark DeWet of RSA with whom I have hunted a few times. Malcolm loves to take this south Africian up on the high lands in the coldest of weather just to watch his teeth chatter Big Grin. SBT as I have said before Malcolm is A OK. I have him to thank for my hill Stag, Roe Buck, Sika, Fallow Deer and Water Deer. We hunted in the Cotswalds, around Bedford (as one can see I am from Bedford Pa) the Northumberland estate and the moors north of Inverness (the sixteen men of Tain) all very enjoyable. I guess I can't say much more except Hey Malcolm and Erick says Hey.
 
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Hey Bwana, how are you. Have you been back with Dewhet lately? I hear he is back doing some PH work for Hunters and Guides again, although I have not spoken to him for a while, and as I did not get to the States last year I didnt see him in New York state where we usually meet up for a few days.

I was hunting in Finland last winter, temp dropped to -23 that would have frozen him to the spot, you know what these SA Ph are like for the cold rotflmo

How are you and the family? hope everyone including Erik is fine. Let me know when you want to pop by for the MJ, winter is the best time.

SBT. Very sorry to hear about your wife, I hope she makes a full recovery without any illaffect. Just let me know when and if you want to book, I look forward to speaking with you when your life is a bit more settled. My best regards and wishes to your wife.

Akrange. Is that you Rob or is it Martin? hope you are well, if you are Rob, Peter sends his regards. Everyone here is well, all the crew are still with me, Peter, George (aka Cooper Dog) Sharon, Martin etc. Business is fairly good, and plenty of action on the horizon for next year already. Take care, hopefully hear from you in the future.
 
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Malcolm, I hunted with Mark this past spring (after taking my Leopard w/dogs in Zim) for Vaal Rehbok, Suni and Red Duiker (struck out on all three) and took a nice Common Reedbuck. I have tried to get him to come on this forum but so far no luck. Some day I want to return for that MJ, how is January? Are you comming to the states this winter? Say hey to Peter for me.
 
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1894Mk2. Thank you for the apology, which I accept. Thank you also for removing the post, it is most kind of you.

I am aware that there is another operation with a similar name to U.K. Outfitters, which appears to have sprung up a couple or so years back. Perhaps this is where the confusion came in? I do not know if they are associated with anyone. But just for the record I am not associated with any other guide service or company in any shape or form. My small business stands on its own, with a small professional team of people who give 101% everytime.

I wish everyone, good hunting and good health.

Remember life is not a rehearsel, you only get one chance, grab it with both hands.

Thank you ladies and gentlemen.
 
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January is good, very little cover so you can spot MJ's much easier. We only need a day or two. Stanstead airport or if not Gatwick would be the best place to fly into.

Regards Malcolm
 
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