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There is no evidence that lead in bullets is causing any significant problem in Sweden, and there is a great deal of lobbying going on to put a stop to the currently scheduled 2008 lead ban.

In contrast, lead shot ingested by waterfowl is a problem with adequate scientific documentation (although even this problem is overblown). Lead bullets in terrestrial environments, however, are quite another thing! The only documented problems of lead bullets are from the endangered California condor (it eats a carcass and ingests a bullet as if it were a bone fragment).

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Posts: 1006 | Location: northern Sweden | Registered: 22 May 2002Reply With Quote
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Voting UKIP or Countryside Party/ Ranulph Finnes.



That's the best possible thing all UK shooters can do on June 10th. This is not about which political party you traditionally support, its about telling the Government we aren't going to let Brussels, or them, mess with our lives any longer.
 
Posts: 90 | Location: Cheshire, UK | Registered: 25 March 2004Reply With Quote
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Copper bullets or copper jacketed lead bullets; the probability of them being encountered by timber harvesters must be practically nil. Unless you use a trunk for target practice....
Be better off banning plaswads before lead shot.
Voting UKIP or Countryside Party/ Ranulph Finnes.
 
Posts: 337 | Location: Devon UK | Registered: 21 March 2002Reply With Quote
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That will be about the same incidence of lead poisoning in our wild fowl and look what happend to lead shot!!??

To the anti's the worst type of lead poisoning is the type the comes out of the barrel of a gun! They will "talk up" a problem if they think they can ban lead...Same with the issue of copper bullets in trees; once thats all we are allowed you will start hearing how dangerous it is to harvesting equipment!

I do totally agree with voting UKIP or similar though..

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Posts: 5684 | Location: North Wales UK | Registered: 22 May 2002Reply With Quote
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For those that haven't seen it here's the website of The Countryside Party.
 
Posts: 90 | Location: Cheshire, UK | Registered: 25 March 2004Reply With Quote
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There, there now, I'm sure there is something good to be said for the Norvegians... Let me see, they make great goats cheese, they have a bunch of oil...

Only kidding, naturally. Norway is a great country - in spite of being infected with "do-gooders" - you have some of the prettiest country side, the best sportsmen and - most importantly - some of the prettiest girls in Scandinavia, and that says a lot
- mike
P.S. The World is full of "do gooders", don't believe you are the only ones to have to suffer through them.
 
Posts: 6653 | Location: Switzerland | Registered: 11 March 2002Reply With Quote
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Jpb,

Although you have more than your fair share of dumb sheep/citizens in Sweden, our sheep/citizens are even dumber and represent a larger percentage of the population!
Many of the things that Sweden has tried out and found to be stupid, are years later tried out by us, since our leaders can't grasp the consept of learning from where others have failed. Nope, they prefer to re-invent the square wheel... It's a miracle that Norway hasn't ended up like Romania or simular. Your former prime minister was correct in saying that Norway is the last Sovjet state!

Norway = Dumb sheep capitol of the world.

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Posts: 2662 | Location: Oslo, in the naive land of socialist nepotism and corruption... | Registered: 10 May 2002Reply With Quote
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Norway, while not in the EU, is still in the forefront of idiocy <snip>

Who bow down, and follow these lunitics like the dumb sheep they are.

Erik D.




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We have FAR more than our share of such dumb sheep in Sweden too!

Very sorry to hear of the 2005 date! Even worse than I thought.

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Posts: 1006 | Location: northern Sweden | Registered: 22 May 2002Reply With Quote
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Norway, while not in the EU, is still in the forefront of idiocy as usual with our upcoming ban on lead shot from 2005. The fact that it has been documented by scientists that polution from lead shot is insignificent here, and that pretty much all lead polution in Norway is via airborn polution that comes from mainland Europe was quietly ignored... The fact that steelshot and Hevi-Shot (the most common alternatives here at the moment) are very ricochette proned in our rocky mountians was also ignored. While rifle bullets are not a big problem for our forest industry, steel shot etc for hunting birds in the woods will be. You can be sure that a lot of Norwegians will become criminals by continuing to use a saved up supply of lead shot until an acceptable alternative is available at realistic prices.

What agrivates me the most with things like this is that a small group of environmental fanatics control the rest of the population against all commen sense and scientific knowledge simpley because they shout the loudest and set up demonstrations and whatnot to convince the uninformed... Who bow down, and follow these lunitics like the dumb sheep they are.


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Posts: 2662 | Location: Oslo, in the naive land of socialist nepotism and corruption... | Registered: 10 May 2002Reply With Quote
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Wow I must admit that the so-called countryside party do have an attractive manifesto...too bad they are not very well known...my vote is in Belgium so I have to pick between several anti-gun/hunting people, and look for the lesser of two evils
 
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Yeah, I admit we do have a few nice things going on here in Norway. But the problem is that the antis are continously cutting away the upsides, leaving us only the superficial, shallow husk of urban society. It's almost funny that the people who push through silly laws like the lead ban are often the urban people who seldom spend much time out in nature, prefering to sip espresso in downtown caf�s while contemplating what to screw up next...

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Posts: 2662 | Location: Oslo, in the naive land of socialist nepotism and corruption... | Registered: 10 May 2002Reply With Quote
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Erik D

First... I think that Haakon and Mette Marit are both fine.
Second... A union of the kind you talk about is a great idea. We had one once, (during Margrethe the 1.) lost it again because of the then warmaking Sweedes. Then we had something like it not so long ago (nordisk raad), but that was lost too. If you wish to go there again I'll follow.
Third... Hell it was our oil to begin with, anyway. (But a drunk danish politician went and gave it all away.)

I am sick and tired of corrupt europolitans telling me what to think and do, so go right ahead.. I'll follow.

Niels
 
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