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What is everyone using to hunt coyotes?

I've been looking at ASAT, but it is taking some getting used to. I'm using a realtree pattern right now that is a little dark for the grass and sagebrush fields we hunt.

Take a look at www.ASATCamo.com and let me know what you think.

Anyone using the everywhere West pattern?

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Posts: 767 | Location: U.S.A. | Registered: 08 March 2001Reply With Quote
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I'm using a gray digital (US Army pattern) coverup upper and white coverup trousers hunting coyotes and deer on basically bare farm ground or grass.

My opinion is that most commercial camo has too much dark coloring and I think that includes ASAT.

I had a lady at work make a coverup upper garment copied from a military snorkel parka. Got the material from W Mart. I think it works great. Haven't had any complaints from coyotes, either.
 
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I remember reading in a hunting magazine, probably either NAHC, American Hunter or (?) four or five years ago an article about a guy (biology professor or wildlife something) from the mid-west who developed a camo pattern that was kind of like Natural Gear. The developer was mimicking the natural coloration of wildlife.
He said, "When's the last time you saw a deer with pictures of twigs and leaves on it?"

It had light coloration, a gray or tan base with small "streaks" of dark gray, dark brown, and/or black. Almost as if you took a paintbrush and flung paint on it. It was at the time tested by several outdoor companies and although very effective at concealing the human shape from game animals, it was not considered commercially viable. In other words, it wasn't "cool" enough.

I have seen this ASAT Camo pattern before, and it is much more "vivid" in shape and color than the pattern in the article. The interesting point the article made was that camo available at the time was better at concealing humans from humans than humans from animals.

I would guess this breaks up the human shape much like the pattern from the article.
Only this stuff is on steroids.

Oops, I almost forgot, the article pointed out that after much testing, the two things that stood out the most to "spook" wildlife were the human face and hands.
 
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I have used ASAT for years. I believe it is a great 4 season camo.
Many of the new, trendy camo patterns seem to be for one specialized situation.


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Posts: 906 | Location: NW OH | Registered: 19 January 2003Reply With Quote
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The young guy at the store told me about getting busted by an antelope doe last fall while bow hunting. He had walked to within 100 yds and didn't see her until he looked up at the same time her looked at him. She stood there for a few min expecting her to blast out of there but she went back to feeding. He was able to crawl closer for the shot and get her.

Antelope have great eyesight and this ASAT pattern must be good. I don't think I could have gotten that close with my dark camo.

I would agree with the face and hands statement after being busted downwind of several deer in the woods. I peeked around a large tree and exposed the side of my face to see them and the game was over.
 
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I'm using a gray digital (US Army pattern) coverup upper and white coverup trousers hunting coyotes and deer on basically bare farm ground or grass.

My opinion is that most commercial camo has too much dark coloring and I think that includes ASAT.

I had a lady at work make a coverup upper garment copied from a military snorkel parka. Got the material from W Mart. I think it works great. Haven't had any complaints from coyotes, either.


I agree with the comment about most commercial camo has too much dark in the coloring. Look at a couple of guys in the distance the next time you are out bowhunting, where most hunters will wear camo, and see if they stand out as dark blobs.

Here in the West where we have a lot of Cheat Grass and Sage; light colors are the way to go. One that I like is Max-1 and we have had good luck with that on elk in the sage.

Another friend of mine told me about a muzzleloader hunt that he was on where he and his son were wearing Cabela's Outfitter Camo Fleece clothing. They were after a large 4-point buck but noticed that the mule deer does that would spot them would stamp their front legs, snort, and come closer. One doe ended up around 25 yards from the son before the wind moved around and spooked her off. The thought that they came up with was that perhaps the texture of the cloth attracted the deer as it was nubby and may have looked like fur. They noticed that repeatedly throughout the day on does.
 
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I use Praire Ghost and it seems to blend in very well in ND. It is a light colored camo that matches our natural grasses.
 
Posts: 7 | Location: Western North Dakota | Registered: 30 November 2005Reply With Quote
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I am a fan of open, light colored camo. Here in Utah most patterns are way to dark unless you are hid up in the dark shade. I like Mossy Oak break up after I have worn it for a couple of years and its faded into a light grey. I also have some old faded advantage that tends toward tan. I think the new light colored Realtree AP is a good pattern but I have not tried it out in my area. The ASAT camo would fade out about right also. DW
 
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I've been a great fan of Clorox Bleach for washing camo BEFORE I wear it. In past years, when the only camo available was military woodland green, or other dark woods patterns, I'd wash some of the stuff two or three times to get it to where I wanted it.


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Posts: 3490 | Location: Colorado Springs, CO | Registered: 04 April 2003Reply With Quote
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Wasn`t there a millitary type of camo that had the lines of the ASAT some years ago ?
 
Posts: 1196 | Location: Kristiansand,Norway | Registered: 20 April 2006Reply With Quote
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ASAT claims to have had the same pattern the last 20 years. Predator camo is similar.

The new AP camo looks better now that it's lighter overall. Everywhere West camo pattern looks good also.
 
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I use Praire Ghost and it seems to blend in very well in ND. It is a light colored camo that matches our natural grasses.
I bought Prarie Ghost "winter" pattern gloves and hat a couple years ago at a closeout sale at GI Joes for next to nothing. They really seem to blend in when it is snowy. (what the heck do I know, I ain't no deer!)
I really wanted a matching non-insulated jacket to wear during coyote hunting, but they did not carry it in the winter pattern. It was $149 or some rediculous amount for them to order a non-waterproof, non-insulated outer jacket.

I went over to the "winter clothes" closeout aile and got a really nice winter camo jacket for $15.
The Prarie Ghost camo looks very much like the camo in the article, but it is not quite the same.

But I have seen Randy Anderson wearing Prarie Ghost camo so it must work.

---Mike

PS I think scent control is MUCH more important than camo. With camo they gotta see you, with scent you are "there" WAY before they eyeball you.
 
Posts: 1700 | Location: Lurking somewhere around SpringTucky Oregon | Registered: 18 January 2005Reply With Quote
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But I have seen Randy Anderson wearing Prarie Ghost camo so it must work.
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But I have seen Randy Anderson wearing Prarie Ghost camo so it must work.
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Laugh all you want. Randy is laughing all the way to the bank.

Randy and the guys that hunted with him, were wearing this kind of stuff long before he got "hired" to film his hunting excursions.

Plus he gets paid to hunt and gets residuals off of sales of DVD's of his exploits.

Oh BTW, how many coyote hunting DVD's have you sold?

That's what I thought... Wink
 
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