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I did some horse trading for a heavy barreled Rem. 22-250. It has a (HS Precision ?) synthetic stock, I think. Anyhow, I was thinking of putting a fixed Leupold 12X on it. Years ago, I had 2 22-250's. On one, I had a fixed 10X on it. That was pretty good but at times I could have used a little more. On the other, I had a 6-24X B&L. Most of the time I had it on 14X. Even for looong shots, I found it was fine and at any more magnification, the mirage was getting bad. So I figure the 12 and a varmint dot reticle should do it. What do guys you think? Daryl | ||
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I have 6x24s 6x18s 3x12s ect on my p dog rifle in the feild 12x seens to do just find the only really advantage to to higher powers come when you site them in and you enjoy seeing one hole groups start to form. I do a lot of p dog shooting in the 12 x range. Just yesterday I was out shooting my 300 win mag with its 3x9 and I put 3 shots into .75 in group at 300 yards. A fix 12 will due just fine I use all mil dots in mine I really like the extra aiming pts way out there. A fixed 12 with mill dots would be just fine. | |||
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Daryl, if your Remington 22-250 Varmint model has the original factory fiberglass stock it is indeed made by H-S Precision. In regard to the scope, the 12X Leupold is a superb piece of glass, I have one and it is sharp and clear. The only reason I would not use that scope on a 22-250 would be if I thought I might use it for any close up varmint calling or what I call "walk around" varminting. At close ranges that 12X would be lots of magnification and the field of view would be limited. But for lay on your belly varmint shooting like ground squirrels or prairie dogs it would make a fine rig. I prefer the 4.5 X 14 Leupold or the 6.5 X 20 Leupold on my varmint guns just for the versatility. I could probably get by just fine with the 4.5 X 14, but find the 6.5 X 20 scopes with target knobs an advantage when shooting prairie dogs at extreme ranges. R Flowers | |||
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I really love my 12X Burris fixed power scope on my .223 H&R Ultra Varmint. If you get a fine crosshair model, you can still shoot "bugholes" at 100 yards--just draw a tiny square on the target and quarter it with the crosshairs. Make sure it is *just* large enough to quarter, but not so big that there is wobble room inside the box. I encountered a groundhog at 30 yards one day. He was across a creek we were driving along. I took out the H&R and threw a sandbag over the hood of my Bronco. R Flowers is correct--it took a few seconds for me to find the little devil in the narrow field of view. When I did find him, it was almost comical. He pretty much filled the scope's view, standing 6 o'clock to 12 o'clock. I was zeroed for 200 yards, so I held low and the 40 grain Nosler BT, moving at 3500 fps exploded that critter. He took the red shower. Anyway, I think you're right on getting the 12X scope. The Leupolds are really great. Burris has discontinued their 12X scope, though I don't know why. Try to get one with target turrets so you can use clicks to engage targets at different ranges. As an aside, if you end up opting for a variable, check out the 6.5 to 20 Weaver Grand Slam. Optically it's the equal of the Vari X III Leupolds, and the turret repeatability is second to none, so you can click up and back down without compromising your zero. Not many scopes out there will allow you to do that. My friend had the very same rifle you mention. At least I think it's the same rifle--the "Sendero." We called that one the "fly swatter." He could literally shoot flies at 100 yards with it. Two out of three times, if a fly landed anywhere on the target, that 22-250 would take him out. He used 34.0 grains of IMR 4895 behind Nosler's 50 grain ballistic tip. Killer load! Dan Newberry | ||
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Daryl, l use a 222 for a varmint rifle and topped it with a 12X Leupold Varmint scope with target dot. I shoot paper targets, crows and gophers and it works okay. I like the clarity of a fixed power although l understand that the new variables are just as good. Good luck with whatever you decide. | |||
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quote: Not necessarily! Remington (700 Titanium Ultra Lightweight and VS models) and Weatherby(AccuMark, Super Predator Master, Super Varmint Master, DGR, and FiberMark models) have both replaced H-S Precision with Bell & Carlson as their OEM supplier. B&C makes a virtual clone of the H-S Precision Varminter stock. If I remember correctly, the definitive way to differentiate between them is to remove the action from the stock. H-S Precision stocks have an oval cut-out in the barrel channel, and B&C stocks have a round cut-out in the barrel channel. George ------------------ | |||
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I have a 6.5x20x40 Leupold Vari x 111 on my vssf 22/250 and would not have anything else on it. It can be kept at "12x" your favourite magnification or it can be wound down or up to suit any differing circumstances. Regards PC. ------------------ | |||
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I've had 6 scopes on my Remington 40XB-KS in .22-250 since I bought it in 97'. 1. Leupold Vari-X III 6.5-20x40 Premier Dot Of all the scopes I've used I would give the nod to the Swarovski and the two Leupolds for crystal clear optics and reasonable size. My two favorite picks. The Nightforce was too big and heavy. Schmidt and Benders had odd reticles, so so optics, very little W&E adjustment, and not quite enough power. FWIW and IMHO you can't go wrong with the Leupold Vari-X III 6.5-20x40. It is light, clear, and repeatable. Gives you versatility with magnification and a good low cheek weld. The 30mm scopes may hold some advantage, however, I've hav'nt found it yet. Regards, Matt. | |||
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Sorry Gents... Had been filing on the sear just a wee bit and she was on burst when I thought it was on semi... [This message has been edited by Matt in Virginia (edited 04-30-2002).] | |||
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Daryl: If you plan on using your HB .22-250 only for longer ranges (as would be assumed with an H.B.) and don't anticipate any close uses, I think it would be hard to beat the fixed 12X Leupold. I had a fixed 24 Leupold on a 40X Remington once, and it was just too much power for field conditions. I have found that with variables, as some others have indicated, that they perfom best on prairie dogs set on about 12X no matter how much more power they have available. Another advantage with the fixed scope is that you have no possibility of zero shift due to a slightly eccentric cam, which occurs to a small degree in even the best of variables. [This message has been edited by Stonecreek (edited 04-29-2002).] | |||
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i would go with a 4.5 to 14 or a 6 to 18 in a leupold. go with a higher powered scope if you plan to shoot past 600 yards ,if not you dont need the extra power. go with leupold you wont be disappointed! have fun sounds like you have a nice rifle. mark | |||
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I use 20x on the short guns .222's because at 200-250 yards mirage is not a factor and the dogs are barely peaking their heads out...head shot time. On the other rifles I use 12x Burris and 16X redfields 6400's. The 24X 6400 I have is good for load developmentbut not field work. I just picked up a Redfield 12X with side focus and want to see how that works along with a Weaver Grand Slam (Microtrac system) and a Tasco World Class Plus (Hako-Made) 6-24. The other rifles are 22-250 with one in 1/7 twist and a 28.5" barrel for the long dogs. I find myself going back to fixed scopes but I report my field results. This has evolved into prarie dog golf with different rifles for different conditions (2 wood, 7 iron etc.) | |||
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I like the 6X18 for out to 350yds and the 8X20 for 500yds | ||
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For a multipurpose scope you cant beat the swarovski 6-24*50 ive had the scope for two years ,first on my 223rem h/b and now on my 22 250 it has a 4a retical as a lot of my shooting is at night 6 to 10 power for lamping and 24 power for daytime long range. ------------------ | |||
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Thanks Guys, and thanks for the load data as well. I was going to go with the 12X Leupold but then I remembered a guy that had a 6.5 X 20 Leupold target. Luck was with me and he sold me the scope. 2 years earlier he would not sell. Any sujestions?
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Daryl. I dont know if you get them around there, but I am quite fond of the Lynx mounts & bases , never had a days problem with them Rudie | |||
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Get the Leupold Dual Dovetails, fit them and forget about them. Cheers pete | |||
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Hello Get the Leupold QRW | ||
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I have the same gun and I really like the Leupold Vari-X III 6.5-20x40mm that I put on it. I use the low end just as much as I use the high end. | |||
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I, too, spend a great deal of time in the field doing the prairie dog thing. I have been very happy with the Weaver V series scopes and the fine cross hairs. I am having a MilDot put in one now and really look forward to trying that. Additionally, I just purchased my first Sheperd scope a week ago and today was its baptism in the field. Most impressive; great optics, excellent eye relief, and the range finding ability with the dual reticles worked very nicely. Windage correction is very easy with this scope, (most important in breezy Wyoming!), as you can see your original setting as well as your correction setting through the scope. I am quite sure their will be more Shepherd optics in my future. Good luck and be safe. ~Holmes | |||
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<Don Martin29> |
I have two 10X scopes on varmint rifles right now and they are very good but most agree that 12X is just right. I also have a Leupold 4-12X and the image gets blurry at 10-12X. I sent it back and it was pronounced ok and the binding adjustments were fixed. It's still blurry at 10-12X! For long range shooting I have a 15X Unertl Ultra Varmint. This is far heavier than regular scopes and it's optics are the best I have seen. | ||
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Fixed high magnification scopes eliminate your ability to shoot at close range if the shot presents itself. A variable powered scope with the AO feature allows you to shoot at close range on any power setting with ease. All you need do is select the power you want and adjust the focus on the front bell of the scope. My vote goes to the 4.5X14,,6X18, 6X24 with adjustable AO. That is the major reason the variable power scopes are slowly replacing the fixed power scopes. I do not own a fixed power scope or have one on any of my varmint rifles. The variable power scope is just to versatile and eliminates close and long distance problems when shooting varmints. You can dial the power setting you want and focus in an instant. Get the variable power scope with the adjustable AO and you will not be sorry when that hazy day or that close range shot stands up only 30 feet away when your scope is set on 24 power. | ||
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