DANG! Now a Varminter here in my neck of the woods is Hunting Coyotes from his Ultra-Light Airplane!
Sheesh!
More power to him though - because the more Coyotes that are knocked off the more Jack Rabbits, Mule Deer and Antelope we will have here-abouts!
But "I" like to call'em in and bonk'em (the Coyotes)!
In the area this fella Hunts from his Ultra-Light I have several other acquaintances that Hunt Coyotes from Snowmobiles (run'em down and run'em over then shoot them with pistols!), a Government Trapper who works full time trapping Coyotes and several times a year he hires a plane and shoots the Coyotes with a shotgun from inside the plane! And there are several fellas I know who use more traditional methods (calling, spotlighting and baiting!) to Hunt Coyotes. AND virtually all the ranchers and ranch hands keep Rifles with them in their travels and shoot Coyotes onsight - year around!
All this "competition" cuts into my FUN!
Anyway the Ultra-Light Coyoter flies low and slow across the valleys and simply swoops down on top of the Coyotes, adjusts his speed to the running Coyotes and shoots them with his Ruger semi-auto bull barrel pistol! He keeps several clips handy and reloads mid-air when need be!
Maybe I am just - jealous?
I know the valleys where this fella prefers to Hunt (fly) and will just avoid them in the future - his method of Hunting these Varmints is reportedly EXTREMELY successful!
Woe is me.
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy

Is this not illegal except for predator control by the wildlife department?

I looked in my Montana State Varmint Hunting brochure and there appears to be no restrictions on when, where, how and with what folks can Hunt Varmints (and Coyotes are specifically defined as Varmints in this brochure)!
I am no legal expert but I find it difficult to answer "for certain" from the documents I possess.
I do know several folks who Hunt Coyotes from regular airplanes here in Montana besides the local Government Trapper.
I have never heard of any of them being cited for their activities.
Can anyone shed any more light on MSwickard's question - "is this not illegal except for predator control by the wildlife department"?
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VarmintGuy

Gidday VG,

I am not up with the laws regarding the shooting of animals from aircraft in your neck of the woods. Here it is quite legal with the appropriate permits.

The one thing that shocks me though is that in the puritanical USA they allow you to BONK any animals other than other humans.

Here in New Zealand it is an offence against the crimes act called Beastiality.

Happy Hunting

Hamish

VG

I'm at a loss. Looked at MT regs and coyotes are listed as predators and it is not required by residents or non-residents to have a license.

I did find one reference on the net:

Coyote

I know kinda sucks, yote hunting has become my favorite hunting of any type. it seems like too many people around here are self proclaimed yote hunters, the videos playing in sportsmans and cabelas don't help either, anyways I feel like there needs to be areas set aside for cultivating yotes, so of course they can be hunted by ME

It's legal in Montana to shoot coyotes any time, anywhere with anything as long as you have permission, aren't tresspassing, etc. etc.. I think they are classified as an unmanaged predator.

"Coyotes in Montana are classified as predators under Montana law and may be hunted or trapped without a license." From the Mt FWP website.

Check the NTSB crash reports and you'll see a few Super Cubs have augered into mother earth whilst doing some low level yote blasting. It's got to be tough avoiding stalls, obstacles and generally keeping aloft when your focused on the coyote and the destruction of same. Sounds like fun.

MSwickard: That incident apparently (in fact did!) take place on the Federally managed Crow Indian Reservation!
Maybe an aerial Hunting "permit" is required there? I am not aware of any of my friends "buying" permits to do there "aerial" type Varminting! Thanks for that link by the way.

Mt Al: I also think predator and Varmint are the same classification - its "predatory" Furbearers that are STRICTLY regulated (like Wolverines, Bobcat and Lynx) both Fox and Coyotes (according to the brochure I have are considered the same as Varmints - no restrictions at all in their taking! No closed season, no restrictions on night Hunting or Hunting with spotlights or by the use of electronic calls.
I wonder if a call to my local Game Warden would answer the Coyote from the air on "public lands" question?
More later.
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy

Hammish: I am getting the 'drift" that "BONKING" means something "down under" that it does not mean up here in the Northern Hemi-shere!
We have a term "boinking" that means "having intimate relations" up here in North America though.
Nope I have never "boinked" a beast!
But I have "bonked" quite a few with my bullets!
Thanks for the cultural lesson.
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy

Mt Al: A couple years back I was out Coyote Hunting at the break of dawn SE of my home. I was with my friend Jack and we were having a great time. I noticed a small plane cruising real low to the ground on a couple of occassions. Later in the morning we came up over a rise in the snow covered road and here was a small plane "parked" in the middle of the county road!
Two men were outside of it and I thought "my gawd" they must have crashed or had an emergency! We approached with caution.
Nope, they were Hunting Coyotes and had landed to take a "pee" break and to stretch their legs! They were also having some hot coffee from their thermos bottle.
I happened to have a bag of fresh pastry along and offered them each a Bear Claw"! Wow did they jump at those treats!
We had a great visit and they relayed how they had taken 7 Coyotes so far that morning and saw several Wolves and one big Cougar along with 3,000+ Elk!
The "shooter" was using a 3 1/2" Magnum 12 gauge Benelli shotgun with buck shot! The two men relayed how some of the larger (more mature - more intelligent?) Coyotes had "learned" NOT to RUN as the airplane approached!!!
I was puzzled by this statement til the two men explained HOW they approach, herd and then shoot the Coyotes!
First off the Coyote is spotted then the plane circles to get its face (nose!) "into the wind" then they slow to just at stall speed and fly at and "drive" the Coyote "into the wind" as well!
So the plane is doing lets say 80 MPH into a 15 MPH wind (reducing the land speed to 70 MPH!) and the Coyote is running at 35 MPH thus the shooter is now trying to hit a target that is in effect moving at 35 MPH instead of any other of a myriad of speeds! When all goes as planned the Coyote is a relatively "easy" target for the aerial shooter!
BUT!
If the Coyote has been "educated" previously they simply lay down and let the plane fly over them at 70 MPH thus making a next to impossible shot (and only time for ONE shot at that!) for the aerial shotgunner!
The pilot of the plane also interjected in our conversation that the First Rule of shooting Coyotes from an airplane was "DO NOT SHOOT THE WING STRUTS"!
There are people that say when the end of times comes there will only be TWO creatures left - one will be the Cockroach and the other will be the Coyote!
I would not be surprised at this!
Long live the Coyote!
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy

Yes Siree!

Long live the Coyote!!

Hear!Hear!

As an avid coyote hunter myself, I take exception to calling the shooting of any animals from an moving airplane "hunting". Same goes for running them down with snowmobiles - hard for me to find any "hunt" in that method.

"Shooting for Predator control" sounds a little more appropriate, and I have nothing against that if it's a legal method where it's done.

Erict: Let me put "the Coyote situation" in perspective for you - someone from New York!
The damned things are verywhere here in Montana and they are eating EVERYTHING!
I myself ran three different Coyotes off of Mule Deer does who had just dropped fawns this past Spring bear season!
The Coyotes eat at least 20% of the Antelope fawns and no-one knows how many Elk calves, Mule Deer fawns and Whitetailed fawns they chomp!
It is a serious number though!
In many areas of western Montana the Mule Deer herds are shrinking due to heavy predation by Mt. Lions, Bears (both Black and Grizzly!), Canada Lynx, Wolves AND hordes of COYOTES!
People poison the Coyotes (and I think this IS illegal but many still do it!), people trap Coyotes, people raid Coyote dens and kill the pups, people Hunt Coyotes for fun! People (ranchers and ranch hands!) shoot Coyotes YEAR ROUND! People run them over with snowmobiles! People around here lend chase to Coyotes with speedy dogs who bite the Coyotes to death! People shoot Coyotes from airplanes! People shoot Coyotes from Ultra-light planes! A lady rancher I know hires a crew and a helicopter every year to shoot the Coyotes on her sheep and cattle ranch! People SNARE Coyotes - now that is a gruesome endeavour if I have ever seen one! And many people like me Hunt them for sport with long range Rifles, electronic calls, spotlights and dum-dum bullets! STILL the Coyotes thrive and devastate our Antelope and Deer herds! Let alone the incredible toll they take on Pheasants, Huns, Woodland Grouse, Sage Grouse, Wild Turkeys, Sharptails, nesting song birds and etc!
We are not talking sporting endeavours here Erict, we are talking all out (but ineffective!) WAR on these Coyotes!
And yes that sounds harsh and unsporting - so be that!
We are trying to save our Deer and Antelope and game birds by this all out effort to diminish the Coyote numbers!
To try and save our game herds and game birds I say "put the smoke on em"!
Kill the majority of them (LOL at this EVER being accomplished!) and do it by any means possible!
Maybe things in New York are not as dire concerning the numbers and effects of the Coyotes but believe me if folks would not "engage" the "enemy" as we have been trying to do for many years now - we would have NO Mule Deer Hunting!
Period!
Mule Deer ARE my favorite game animal to Hunt and if our course of action against the hordes of Coyotes offends SOMEONE, in NEW YORK - then so be that!
The game departments of many western states allows the "nearly" unregulated Hunting and limits etc. of Coyote Hunting!
No Erict, its not Hunting (some of the methods westerners use to control Coyotes!) - its war!
If you care not to partake of certain methods of Coyote killing, I commend you for that!
If you are intent though on seeing or allowing our Mule Deer and Antelope herds to be further decimated I say - go piss up a rope!
In one field my partner and I passed today (9 miles north of Ennis, Montana) we saw three Coyotes and 11 mature Bald Eagles in amongst a herd of calving cattle! They were simply waiting for the moment of birth to make their moves! And having been a witness to such gorey goings on in the past - I say run them damned Coyotes over with a snowmobile, shoot them from a plane, set out MORE snares, use some of the old strychnine "Coyote getters" that explode in the face of Coyotes and causes them a slow and agonizing death, etc, etc, etc!
There are simply WAY to may Coyotes here on the high plains.
I have not even mentioned the harm the Coyotes round these parts do to peoples pets!
Another Coyote we saw today was within the city limits of Livingston, Montana - I did not ask him, but I am sure that Coyote was not there to go to the Gunshow (as were we), he was there to snag a dog or a cat and evade the "evil Hunters" who try to "bag him" once he is outside the city limits!
Coyotes are smart, adaptable, patient, tireless, intense, cautious, clever, killing machines!
I am not proud at all to say this, there Erict, I also think they are winning this war we are waging on them!
I honestly hope things are more in balance back in New York in the Coyote vs Deer, Wild Turkey, Grouse, Pheasant, livestock and pets equation but out west they are NOT in balance.
Extraordinary measures are being tried, and indeed, need expansion!
Long live the Coyote (not just so dang many of them!)
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy

VG -

I think you missed my one and only point - running them down with snowmobiles or airplanes then shooting them ain't hunting - it's shooting. I can only imagine the situation you westerners are having with coyotes. I've also seen about a bazillion personal slanders started on the Big Game forum when the topic of wolves comes up, so we're all familiar with the touchy situation there.

We also have an increasing coyote population here in the East, and they have certainly had their impact on the deer and many other species, especially the fox. The biggest problem we face out here as far as the coyote population is that there are less sportsmen out there hunting them, shooting them during deer season or trapping them. Add that with the constant attacks on trapping, and I have little doubt that the coyotes will continue to increase until they reach the carrying capacity of the area.

If only they tasted like grouse, we'd have the situation under control!

Long live speedy dogs!!!!

Hear!Hear!

Erict: I long ago came to the realization that the object of life is to make "things" better!
Saying happy words and putting to much emphasis on being politically correct or shying away if someone "personally slanders" someone - doesn't get ANYTHING done for the betterment of ones life!
I could personally give a rats ass if some "flat-lander" takes offense at attempts to control predators (Coyotes AND/OR Wolves) here in the Rocky Mountains!
Back in the 1970's & early 1980's I Hunted Mule Deer on a particular mountain in the Ruby Range of the Rocky Mountains! I personally counted over 150 Mule Deer during a days Hunt MANY, MANY times! This was back before Wolves! This was back when Cougar quotas kept them controlled enough to allow strong healthy Mule Deer herds! And this was back when Coyotes were kept in check by Fur Trappers and Hunters as the pelts had been valuable up til about then!
Now the PC crowd has Wolves running all over that mountain! The PC crowd has Mt. Lion quotas set so low that Mule Deer are constantly stressed by the large population of Lions! And for what ever reasons (including some PC ones) Coyotes ABOUND there!
I took my sons Hunting Mule Deer there a couple years back (as its close to our home - 45 miles away - and its beautiful country) in a hard days Hunting we saw 7 Mule Deer!
I don't mean this as an insult - I MEAN IT!
Fuck the PC crowd!
Fuck "flat-landers"!
I want my Mule Deer back!
Period!
And if it takes nerve gas, atomic bombs, Coyote birth control pills (no offense meant to Catholics by this - LOL!), laser guided missiles, Coyote activated land mines, or an epidemic of Coyote A.I.D.S. then SO BE IT!
The world would be a better place, MUCH BETTER without so many Coyotes in the Rocky Mountains!
If there is ANYONE I have failed to offend, that NEEDS offending, I ask - please be patient!
If, it takes, an organization dedicated to offending people in an effective effort to bring back our Mule Deer herds here in SW Montana then I would "volunteer" to serve on that organizations board of directors!
Eastern Oregon went through a boom and then a PC bust of that vast areas Mule Deer Hunting!
When I was 8 years old I went on a Mule Deer Hunt in the Eagle Creek country out of Baker City, Oregon. My grand-parents had homesteaded a ranch in that country and they raised cattle and sheep. I was to young to carry a Rifle but all my uncles, my parents and grandparents and my older cousins did Hunt. Mule Deer were EVERYWHERE! This was in 1955. That ranch had been "perimetered" with poison baits and "Coyote Getters" (these shot poison into the mouths of Coyotes AND Bobcats). I remember, vividly, walking the outer fence of that ranch and observing the incredible numbers of dead Coyotes and Bobcats laying hither and yon!
Everyone harvested nice healthy Mule Deer on that remote ranch.
Fast forward about 40 PC years and the Hunting in that area is now KAPUT! The PC crowd did away with the effective measures to control the Coyotes! All my still living relatives have given up Hunting there abouts!
That, in my opinion, IS NOT a better world!
But the "carrying capacity" (Coyote population?) might have been met?
I could care less!
The Mule Deer Hunting has suffered and continues to suffer due to over predation!
I strongly contend that area (and many others out west) needs more Coyote Hunting!
Allright I need to correct that last - I think that area (and many others out west) needs a "war" on Coyotes.
And that war (in accordance with my lengthy observations) SHOULD include snares, aerial Hunting, snow-mobiling, poisoning and other less than PC methods.
Some may take offense - so be that. That is not the objective, the objective is to keep our Mule Deer and Antelope herds VERY strong, along with the other game birds and pets and livestock that would benefit as well!
One last thought for you to ponder - I was travelling through a huge ranch near Twin Bridges, Montana a couple years back. This ranch does not allow Coyote Hunting or Hunting to the general public! For the payment of an enormous monetary fee people like Will Primos and his TV crew do get to Hunt there. Real daring people sometimes dress up in full camo after the snow is gone and sneak through the bottoms searching out trophy size Whitetail shed horns! Now I am not saying I am that daring but I did see on this ranch a large Coyote literally eating a Whitetail fawn as it was being birthed by its mother!
A more sickening sight I can not imagine!
I know that is what Coyotes do - they are just doing it, TO MUCH!
I lied - one more recent observation for your consideration!
A couple years ago I was travelling to the Dillon Rifle Range and I was happy to see a plump Antelope Doe right along the county road. She was humped up and I knew that she was soon going to give birth. I recognize this posture they attain just prior to birth as I have oberved it for decades now. And this Antelope had done what her species has learned to do, she travelled to the proximity of a road! They do this because Coyotes are VERY wary of being near roads in open country!
I go on to my range and set up only to discover I had forgotten my test loads (ammo). Back home I travel and when I came to the spot where the Antelope was she had now birthed a fawn just 75 yards from the road. AND there was a Coyote watching her every move not 200 yards beyond her!
I had no ammo!
I race home and get the ammo and on the way back I meet a friend and his 6 year old son. I invite them to come see the newborn Antelope and to watch me shoot a Coyote!
They travel along with me and here is the sight we came upon! Now there are two Coyotes warying this Antelope, along with TWO Golden Eagles who are swooping down on the Antelope and her fawn!
We parked not 100 yards from the Antelope and I was beginning to burn! The Coyotes won't leave and the Eagles are still swooping down on the fawn! Hesitant, for some reason, to attack! Then I see a second fawn has been birthed and is laying there awaiting its turn to be licked clean by the mother!
I am debating whether or not a Rifles shot will scare the mother Antelope away from the fawns???
After some time the Coyotes left and the Golden Eagles flew to a nearby power pole and lit upon it!
We humans left as well, and I went and concluded my range session (that was wrought with anguish over the fate of the twin Antelope fawns). On my return down that gravel road I was happy to see both fawns now standing and closer to each other and their mother standing guard atop them!
It is my understanding that Antelope fawns need only attain 15 to 20 days of age til they can outrun Coyotes!
I have seen young Antelope running from both Coyote and Fox. I am not sure how long they can outrun Coyotes but they sometimes do so.
I lied, one more observation from the high plains for your consideration.
I know a Trapper who lives in the Big Hole Valley of SW Montana! I have known him for 30+ years. He is also a licensed nuisance Trapper as well. Which means he can Trap year round for "nuisance" animals like Beavers, Coyotes, and Badgers etc!
I moved to Montana in 1997 and that winter I went to his home in Wisdom, Montana.
My friend was fleshing out Coyote pelts and stretching them. For the first time ever I thought to ask him "how many Coyotes do you harvest a year" (he also snares and shoots them)?
He replied, "I got 325 so far this year"!
I was absolutely STUNNED!
The valley (area) he takes Coyotes in is 32 miles long and 12 miles wide at its widest!
I Hunt this valley for both Elk and Varmints and spend a lot of time there. I have flown over it in a Piper Cub twice and believe me when I say there is not a shortage of Coyotes in that Valley!
My friend has been Trapping there since the end of WW II!!!
EVEN during years of low fur prices he keeps Trapping, snaring and Hunting Coyotes!
He has mentioned to me MANY times that the Coyote numbers need to be controlled or no Antelope Hunting! The Grouse numbers plummet and the calves of both Elk and Cattle will suffer.
My Trapper friend does not Hunt Deer and considers them "not good to eat". So he is not protective or concerned about them, like I am.
Any, way, a Coyote can be killed without risk to humans and other Game is fine with me.
Again I don't want all Coyotes dead just 90% of them.
"Things" would be better that way!
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy

I would think that this is not a Montana Game and Parks regulatory issue--- would think that FAA rules would regulate firing guns from aircraft. Ultr-lites are classified differently than private aircraft and far less regulated-- I would check FAA regs.....

VG: as far as getting your Mule deer back....I am working as fast as I can

IV

well if any one needs help reducing there coyote numbers id be glad to come out and help you out.

Idaho Vandal: Is it strangely warm over your way?
Just before 4:00 PM here today (Sunday, February 4th) it was 49 degrees!
I checked the forecast and it is predicting 49 degrees again tomorrow!
Thats about 17 degrees above normal.
Yes, IV, keep after'em!
I am headed out this Wednesday for a morning Hunt myself.
The airplane people here in Dillon, Montana play a game I don't think the FAA would approve of either!
It called "Sky Bowling"!
It goes like this - the ground crew sets up 10 fifty gallon plastic drums in the classic "bowling" traingle, just off to the side of our airport's runway. The airplanes take up about 6 bowling balls in each plane! Then they take turns knocking the "pins" (the fifty gallon plastic drums) down! No spares are attempted - scores are kept by plane for total "pins" knocked down. The planes get lined up down the runway and somehow they "slip" a little sideways at the proper moment and the "co-pilot" opens the door and drops his bowling ball at the correct instant! I have seen MANY strikes made, by the way, with all 10 pins going toppling and flying!
The bowling balls that "miss" the "pins" often travel another 200 yards (in the dirt and grass) after they are dropped!
Then the ground crew races over sets up the pins again and retrieves the bowling ball. When out of balls the planes land and load up again.
It is an absolute laugh riot to see this competition going on.
Hundreds of locals turn out to watch this event each summer.
Again the FAA folks don't get down our way very often.
The guy that put in my house alarm flew his small plane down to our airport several years ago from Bozeman. He and I got there about the same time and the airport was closed for re-paving.
After several phone calls I picked him up at the next closest airport (35 miles away). The first thing he said to me was "I have got to get my pilots license"! "If I had my license the FAA would have automatically sent me a closure notice about your airport"!
I am not saying all Montana pilots are rule "stretchers" but I have flown with several and - well - its an experience.
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy

VG: Yes, it did warm up quickly-- Pineapple Express I would guess. It snowed last night and has been in the teens and twenties but it started to warm up and clear the roads again. I drive to Pullman everyday and 270 has been clear....

IV

Idaho Vandal: It must be a "Chinook"!
At 6:00 PM it was 50 degrees here according to the official weather site! That is a full 30 degrees warmer than normal for that time of night!
Its windy as well and what little snow we had in the mountains is melting away!
Drought and fire danger for us next summer to be sure!
In fact here in Dillon we have only had .15" of precip in November then .21" of precip in December followed by .04" in January and .02" so far in February!
Our "Profound" classification of drought (the most serious, or worst, classification!) is obviously continuing.
We normally get about an inch of precip in each of the months I have listed!
Troubles ahead for river fishermen and fire fighters, maybe even Hunters!
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy

Hey varmintguy, I'm trying my best to help with the coyote population, we ventilated 4 saturday and one had mange pretty bad so now he is fertilizing a patch of sage. I have a friend that owns a huge parcel in Ravalli county but refuses to let me hunt coyotes there and he won't give me an explanation. 7 years ago he had a biologist do a mule deer study and counted something like 200 mulies on the land, this year he had the same guy come out and repeat the study and counted only 68 mule deer. I told him the coyotes are eating all the fawns and to please let me shoot a few, he still refuses to let me kill coyotes on his land, but I do have access an an ajoining piece and had a little success calling them from his land. I wonder if coyotes are suseptable to the Parvo virus, I know wolves are.

Mike stevenson: Good job on the Coyotes there! many happy returns!
I very much appreciate your quantified observations on the Mule Deer populations!
They are very illuminating and the cause is most obvious to me!
I also hear that many Cougars are roaming your neck of the woods! I have some Whitetail Hunting archery type friends (archery gear is all that is allowed in many parts of the lovely Bitterroot Valley) who Hunt Deer over your way. They keep seeing and having run-ins with Cougars as they Hunt the Whitetails in the valley!
I do not know for sure if Coyotes are susceptible to Canine Parvo Virus? I do not see why they would not be.
Now and then I see a mangey Coyote but the poor Fox are the ones who really get devastated by this affliction - which is always fatal (I have been told) to wild canines in cold climates.
My good friend and Taxidermist in Miles City, Montana has had the "mange" three times now!
He gets it from Antelope that he taxiderms!
Thanks again for the prime example of over-predation! The many recent mild winters have certainly had nothing to do with reducing that private land population from 200 animals down to 68!
Keep after the Coyotes!
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy

VarmintGuy;It was 54 yesterday at 4pm it was 40 at 8am this morning.
We have no snow at 5500 ft where I live and very little in the mountains,friends of mine have been up really high w/snowmobiles and came back out some places didnt have enough snow to keep their track lights off.
If we dont get some snow and spring rain we are in big trouble.last year was bad enough over 300,000 acres burned about 30 miles south of here.w/regards

Gophershooter: Amen!
We are in dire straits here, now, in south western Montana!
We need snow!
I was born on a rainy day (July 1947) near Seattle, Washington, and lived in that rain and moss and gray for the first 49 years of my life!
One reason I moved TO Montana 9 years ago was to get AWAY from the rain!
It looks like I have gotten WHAT I wished for!
Theres an old saying about being careful what you wish for because you might just get it!
Well I "got it" now and wish I hadn't.
I therefore accept partial blame for this drought, here in SW Montana, that has been going on for about 10 - 11 years!
Its almost 12:30 here in Dillon and its already 51.6 degrees and heading for a high of 54ish! The 100 year average high for this date is 38 degrees! So we are looking at 16 degrees above normal here today. And no snow (rain!) in sight.
Sheesh.
I may go to the Rifle range tomorrow if this keeps up.
Send snow (or rain either one!)!
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy

Hey Varmitguy, since you don't see any intrinsic value in coyotes, prairie dogs, foxes, wolves or anything else that you don't understand or don't like choke on this....

As much bitching as you do about how all these toothy or annoying critters ruin your glorious hunting, if you stop and think about how much $$$$$ the US Government (your tax dollars hard at work) has wasted on needless coyote control, and wonder if they would have put that $$$$$ into landowner incentive programs for habitat conservation and habitat enhancement on public land (plus securing critical winter range, parturition areas, and transition areas), right now we would have deer coming out of our asses in the Western US.

Think about this, because it is true, and if you had any clue about predator prey relationships (MANY studies have shown that broad based coyote control does NOTHING AT ALL to curb predation) maybe you would think differently about things.

Just food for thought.....

MG