OK guys, this is The Dog Hunter,Ilove to call coyotes. I have been calling for about thirty plus years I am now forty one, go figer. Some times whin I call I can do no wrong, I end up with six to eight dogs for the day. Other days It feels like some one pissed on my calls. Example I will call a coyote comes in and stops at fourhundred yards out. Thats all she gives you. What to do to get her closer?Have you ever called and the coyotes started barking back and forth to each other? In this situation I have neve called one in. How about body language ? Can you read a coyotes body Language? Thanks The Dog hunter.

I just started calling after laying off of it for a few years. I have hit the same problem on a couple occasions. I started using a song dog which is built to simulat coyote talk. They sell a book and tape to explain the different sounds coyotes make. I have found it very helpful. If it is in the morning I will move to the talk and stay very low profile and then use the coyote talk and have called in as many as 4 and called one back twice, yes I still missed him. You can get the call and information at Crit'r Calls web site. You don't mention it but I have found this problem to mainly exist during breeding season and if that is the case it may be that you are just not as sexy as the female that the dog is looking at. Good luck.

Thanks for the reply Kscoyote, my wife sometimes calls me a dog but she has never called me a sexey dog. Just going to have to keep on trying.

Are you howling back at 'em agressively Dog Hunter?

sscoyote Tanks for the reply, Let me tell you how it went my last time out, The first stand of the day was set up over looking a wide open grass valley as far as you could see. I always wear complete camo including face and hands. Three minutes into my stand i have adog coming stright at me six hundred yeards out, shes coming at a slow run. When they come at me i dont call. at about four hundred yeards she stops and sits down. I give acouple more short call on the rabbit call, she dosent move. A couple mouse squites nothing. I tell myself time to learn something, I get out the howler, i give acouple greting calls she advances about fifty yeards and sits back down. OK a couple more gretting calls nothing. I let it settle down and a couple minutes later I give her a challange call Still nothing. After about three more minutes she gets up and walk away, What to do?

Have you tried a stuffed animal on a string? Give them something to look at.

savage 99 Good point, I have never used any tipe of decoy, this might be the direction to head in.

The dog hunter,

Generaly when they come to a certin distance from you and stop, then start barking to one another, its a warning bark and you have been made. I hate that sound. A decoy will help but if they get down wind and smell you, games up.

next time you have one do what happened, try this, give a couple barks and a lone howl, wait for about 20 secconds and hit her with a distressed rabbit. High and hard at first then taper off to a moan. Now she thinks the other coyote has a rabbit and she may come to see if there are any scraps. Most likely she will circle to get the wind but she may circle closer for a shot.

Sometimes the intencity in witch you blow the call will make the difrance.

Smote the Yote
Slydog

TDH, that's a good question, about what to do. If those dogs are sitting down on you at <500 yds. they could well be within range with a good laser/gun/sighting reference system/stable shooting technique. I can't remember did you have something behind you to break up your outline? Are you calling from the same stands, in each particular location. Try calling from a different spot, and of course different sound!?

sscoyote This is the dog hunter 2 formaly known as the dog hunter(ilost my password) dont ask long story. Five hundred yards is a long way out.I have shot a few dogs at this range quite a few. I compete in NRA high power 600yrd compation once amonth. we shoot a target that has an Xing of three inches. The ten ring is six inches, to win you have to place a score of 298 and up with a 20 X count. These old boys can shoot. With the right tools five hundred yards is verv do able. I will almost never take a shot at this range on a called in coyote, the reason is if you miss, I fell you will never call that coyote in again, they are just to smart to be fooled again. Yes my back ground is broken up. That calling with a howler is something i will have to try.

Dog Hunter;
Where is Canyon Lake Ca. , Southern Cal?
Anyway I sent you a link to a place you might like to look at.

Marsh Mule thanks for the info . Canyon Lake is located sevsntyfive miles north of San Diego, fifteen min, north of tamecula.

I called in dozens last week. Didn't get them out of the brushline long enough for the shooters to make a good shot, but even rifle fire from several military semi-autos in 308 didn't scare them off for long. The only thing that ran them off was an electronic call, so I'm guessing that they learn sounds and they had simply never heard my idiot self playing with the calls.

I'm investing in either an NV scope, or some traps. Spotlights don't seem to cut it for me. I'm sure it is because I don't know what I'm doing though.

When I have a coyote coming in, I try to keep him coming. If it looks like he is slowing to stop, I lipsqueak and keep it up to hold his interest. Keep him coming on instinct, instead of learned behavior. If he has the opportunity to figure things out he will figure them out.

First off I have not been calling as long a you so I feel like I'm giving advice in the wrong direction . One thing I've found is to make a major change . A half hearted responce to a rabbit or squeeker , that leaves you with a 400 yard shot is not good . Try a pig squeeler , and loud . I have a couple my favorite is a Primos javelina 312 . I have no need to endorse one brand over another , just letting you know what works for me . Generaly this will get them to a trot , then change back the squeeker . Fortunatly I have someone older that I hunt with that has been calling somewhere in the neighborhood of 30+ years so I've got alot to learn yet .

The visual attractant is very effective,as was pointed out. All it takes is an old chicken wing with the feathers on. Yotes are very curious and like me just have to see whats going on. Another attractent that would be Very effective would be a scent(like say puppy in heat?). Put them at ease,peek their curiosity or jog their labedo(sp?). All of these should be effective. IMHO derf

Thanks for the reply I now use a decoy on areas that have a lot of calling pressure. This seemes to help but not all the time. One thing that i have done is to shoot at targets at 100yrd incrments out to 600yards. I wright the clicks on my gun and when a dog holds up way out there I use a range finder to get the yardage, click the gun in and 90% of the time I will hold the shot.Think about it If you miss you just smarten up another dog was it worth it? Let him go there is always another day.

Excellent advice Dog Hunter 2, If your'e not very confident that you can make a well placed shot and the dog simply wont approach any closer, let him go! come back another day and change up on your stand location, as he may have been called by other callers several times from obvious stand locations. Sometimes you have to throw em a curve!