I'm thinking of getting the remington Model 700 22-250. The Stainless fluted barrel and synthetic stock. Id like to get some input from any of you that have one and how they shoot for you. What kind of accuracy are you getting, and what load are working well for you.

Thanks,
Ricky

RA, I have had a Rem 700 VS in 22-250 for about three years now. It is my 'go to gun', with IMR4895 just about anything you want to load will shoot real well at about 3500 FPS.

I have a m700VLS Varmint laminated 22-250 made in 1997.I bought it used,but nearly new.I tuned the trigger,and free floated the barrel.

To date I have tried two different bullets(Hornady 50 and 55g Vmax) and Varget Powder.With the best loads each bullet will shoot .5" or under for five shots...

Here are two three shot groups with 36.5 grains of Varget behind a 55g Hornady Vmax..

I like the rifle.

I have a vssf 22/250 and I really like it for whopping foxes, it is deadly accurate with 50 gr winchester ballistic silvertip supremes, I wish it where a cz however................I am addicted to cz's but this thing shoots to good to get rid of.

Ricky,

I had a Rem Light Varmint in 22-250 and it was nothing but a bitch.
With the 22" 1 in 14 BBL it would not generate enough velocity to stabalise 55gr projectiles.

Tried 6 different bullets with 4 different powders and you could see on the targets they were going through at an angle.

I thought it was just my rifle until another guy turned up at the range with an identical setup and his 55 Vmax's were going in sideways with mild through to max loads.

Moral to this story! If you think you will ever want to shoot 55's or heavier go at least 24 if not 26" in BBL length because the 1 in 14 22" just doesn't cut the mustard unless your happy shooting 50gr pills.

Shame Remington don't get their heads out of their arses and do the 250's with a 1 in 12 like Savage do!

Cheers,
Boof...

Thanks for the replies. About the light varmint, I liked the looks of it and thought about that one till a guy I know bought one and couldn't get it to shoot either. I only know one person with the heavy barreled stainles fluted, and it will shoot one hole groups consistantly. I was just wondering if he got a "good" one or if they tend to be a pretty consistant shooter.

Ricky

I have a 22-250 in a VLS Thombhole and it shoots under half inch with 55 gr ballistic tips all day long. Go with a Ruger or a Rem and you will never go wrong.

Put about 400 rounds thru my VSSF without finding anything that would shoot better than 1.25 inches . Tried about 40 combinations .
Hope you're luckier than I was .

I have tried two different loads and it shoots the same. It like loads way over max. At max loads it just started to group okay. This is with both loads.

Ricky_arthur: Welcome to the AR Varminting thread if you have not been welcomed already!
I have a recently purchased Remington Model 700 VLSS. This was a limited edition Model with an all stainless action and 26" heavy stainless barrel. It has a silver and black laminated wood stock.
The Rifle shoots very well for me indeed! I wanted it for a Coyote Hunting rig and I wanted to use the Speer 52 gr. hollowpoint - flat base bullet. This is an excellent Coyote bullet!
I use IMR 4064 powder and Federal 210M primers in my load. According to my loading log the last sight in group with this Rifle I shot was .448" at 100 yards (5 shots).
I only had to try one load to achieve accuracy with this Remington that was plenty good enough for me!
My Rifle does not have the fluted barrel like you are interested in nor the fiberglass stock but my all original Rifle (no bedding, crowning etc) is very consistently accurate.
By the way I did do a trigger job myself on this Rifle.
If anything the fluted barrel and the fiberglass stock usually aids in accuracy so I say go for it!
I know many shooters who have the plain Jane Remington 700 VLS models in 22-250 and they are all pleased with the accuracy they are getting!
Good luck if you decide to try the Remington!
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy

Bushcook: How much scope power do you have on your Rifle?
Yikes - that Remington definitely should shoot better than that!
I wonder if your bedding or the torque on the bedding screws needs to be played with?
Have you tried Sierras superb 52 gr. match bullets in this Rifle as yet?
If it won't shoot these well then it almost surely has internal (Rifle or scope) problems.
Keep trying!
1.250" groups though is just sub-par for the Remington heavy barrels, and you have the full race edition there! It should be shooting groups half that size or around .625" in my estimation?
But alas I do not think that 1.250" groups would prompt the Remington folks to rebarrel for you!
I wish I could help you in person somehow but you are to far away!
Good luck in your future efforts and maybe could you expand upon what you have tried so far in the way of scope switching, torquing, bedding, trigger jobs, crowning etc.
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy

Varmintguy ,
I have rebarrelled the rifle to .243 AI now .
I had a 6.5 - 20 x Leupold on it which has worked fine with the new barrel . Mounts were Warne Maxima (checked for tightness) and once again no problem with the .243 . Rifle was professionally skim bedded by a reliable smith without improvement . Had a Rifle Basix 8 ounce trigger installed . Did try the 52 Sierra MK and a heap of others . Everything shot about the same .
I'm pretty sure the problem was the barrel crown . It looked RS . Two problems though :- 1) I bought the rifle second hand with 60 shots through it so no warranty and 2) The rifle was a VSSF - P meaning it was ported from the factory . Muzzle was counterbored to a diameter of about .450 and a depth of about 3 inches . Only easy way to get at the crown was to lop about 3 inches off . Didn't want to go down that path so sold off the original barrel .
On top of all that the HS Precision stock had hairline cracks in it that I didn't find for a month after purchase . The guy who repaired them said that they had been there since manufacture as there was evidence of an attempted repair under the factory paint . HS didn't want to know about it .
All in all I'd say the quality control was crap and that my first Remington is likely to be my last . Sure made me wish I'd never sold my Sako Swift .

Bushchook: Yikes again! I have one of the Remington 700's like you describe with the fluted barrel and it was factory ported. This Rifle is in caliber 220 Swift! I had not thought of that recessed crown problem til you mentioned it! Thanks for that explanation!
It is something to consider when shopping for a new Rifle! That recessed crown could be a bugger to try and work on for sure. Thankfully my 220 Swift Remington 700 with the fluted and ported barrel shoots very well!
Yikes again and sorry you had a bad go with the Remington 700!
I will though try and defend the Remington 700's to this extent to you. I own a bunch of them (about 25 or so) in calibers from 17 Remington on up through 7mm Remington Magnum and they all shoot very well in my opinion. In addition I have owned about 15 or 20 more Remington 700's and wish I had most of them back. I can not recall having one that was plagued with problems and shot as poorly as yours. So heres hoping you might give the Remington 700 another try sometime when one comes along in a caliber or style you fancy!
Have a good day mate and keep shooting!
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy

Varmintguy ,
Just ain't fair , you get 25 good ones , I buy one and it's a dog !
Cheers .

Bushchook: Yes I admit I have had a long and much appreciated run of good luck with the long guns I have bought over the last 30 years! I have not had to even bed a Remington 700 in 12 or 14 years! And I shoot my Rifles a lot! Mostly in the field though as once I get my long guns load tested and sighted in, its field work only from then on. I do of course check the long guns at the range before going on Varmint Safaris with them but I simply do not pound lead down the barrels of my Rifles at the range anymore. I get so much more satisfaction out in the field from my shooting.
The trips to the barrel replacement man are simply so expensive anymore I literally shudder to think about having to do that.
I don't know if you heard about my recent run of "bad luck" though regarding a S&W Varminting pistol I had? To make a long story short in December 2,003 I bought this Model 647 pistol in caliber 17 HMR. The folks at S&W had forgotten to rifle its 10" barrel! I sent it back to them and some months later I got a new replacement Model 647. This one had rifling but shot worse than the unrifled pistol! It shot 6 to 8 inch groups at 25 yards with a quality scope mounted on it! I sent it back! I just received the 3rd pistol from the fine folks at S&W and this one is a hummer! It shoots well under 1" 6 shot groups at 25 yards (actually .600" to .750" groups!) and I am thrilled with it! I have already had it out twice for Ground Squirrel shooting and it fits my needs perfectly!
So like I say I hope you give Big Green (the Remington folks) another try some time in the future.
I will agree with you regarding the Sakos! They are fine rigs and I have owned many of them (all heavy barrels) - they universally have shot wonderfully! I do not recall right off hand ever having a friend that complained about the accuracy of a heavy barrelled Sako! They are though, rather expensive over here in the U.S.A.
I think I own 3 or 4 Sakos right now and could not be happier with them. I also have been "caretaker" of a wonderful little Browning 1960 vintage Rifle in caliber 222 Remington Magnum. It was built on a Sako action and it has the so called "pencil barrel". I have not shot it yet but the owner has been going through some tough times (woman trouble) and I keep it in my gun vault for him. I think I will scope it up this summer and whack a few Colony Varmints with this truely classic Varmint Rifle.
Long live Sako! Just for old times sake! This fine a Rifle should not be left to just gather dust.
Long live Remington!
Hold into the wind
VarmintGuy

Rem 700 are fine rifles, but, if you want to spend almost half the money try a savage. They are faily ugly, sloppy actions and not very balanced but they sure seem to shoot tight groups for me.

I have a VSSF that I bought 2nd hand about a year ago. It hadn't done much work, but the previous owner had gotten the barrel very hot. I wanted it for a project, so I wasn't all that concerned. Turns out that it shoots the 40 and 50gr Vmaxes very well, but it doesn't shoot the 55s.

Just about to order a Hart 1:9 for it, and rechamber to a 22/250 AI.

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Originally posted by Bushchook:
Varmintguy ,
Just ain't fair , you get 25 good ones , I buy one and it's a dog !
Cheers .

Same Luck it was a dog so I sent it to the pound (Gun Show) Going to get a 40x in 222 or 223 next time.

I just got a Remington 700 VLS 22-250 several weeks ago and topped it with a leupold VX2 6-18x40 and that thing is accurate out of the box. All I did was put in a timney trigger and lower the pull to 1.5-2lbs, no barrel freefloating or glass bedding and it already can shoot approx .75" groups at 100 yds with the 55 grain V-max although I'm going to try out the 50 grain and see if it shrinks any. The fluted synthetic version should be just as accurate as mine although mine has a plain thick barrel. For the money you can't go wrong with one of the Rem varmint rifles.

Sounds like the accuracy from the Remmy varmint rifles is sometimes good, sometimes not, like most factory rifles. I have had good luck with two Kimbers that I currently own, though neither is the varmint model. For just a few hundred more than the Remmy you could get a Cooper Classic with guaranteed accuracy of .5". Mine shoots 3/8" routinely.