Just wondering if a cz 550 laminate varmint will match it with my rem 700 vssf 22/250, I now practically have all cz's and if people are getting good results from the cz 550 varmint in 22/250 I might get one so that I can have all the same triggers etc. across all my rifles. I really love the set trigger on my cz hornet for varmint work and it shoots great and is very light.

Also the rem 700 feels tinny comapred to my cz's........the only thing my vssf has in it's favour is it shoots well, but other than that it makes me feel ill

PC,

I don't know what kind of bolt rifles you are used to shooting,but I have shot Remington m700s for over 25 years and find NOTHING "Tinny" about them at all!Neither does the US miltary as the m700 has been the basis of our sniper/scout rifles for about 40 years now,first in the Marines and later the US Army.Just because they have a simpler bolt design than a Mauser ,does not mean they are "Tinny"..

They have one of the closest tolerance bolts of any commercial rifle made today and they are made from solid machined steel.If they do not feel like a Mauser action when the bolt is worked,sorry.It has nothing to do with the way the gun itself is made.

Perhaps it could be the STOCK.I have noticed the synthetic stocked m700 do have a cheesy,hollow sound feel to them when the bolt is manipulated compared to wood stocked m700 riles.Try to handle a Laminated stocked m700 such as the VLS and I'd bet you'll change your tune..

As to the CZ shooting as well as the Remington,IMHO they would be rather close(I like CZ rifles as well) ,BUT I would not bet against two American centerfire rifles out of the box when it comes to accuracy-Savage m110 or Remington m700 /788.As to out of the box accuracy, I would put those tw0 rifles up against any other bolt gun in the world,SAKO,CZ, Steyr ,you name it..

Thanks for your reply sharpsman....I suppose I have just got used to the heavy feel of the cz's, I know what your saying the rem 700's do shoot any the vssf I have shoots well, I have felt a laminate heavy rem 700 in .243 and it felt like it was much better quality than my vssf.

Thursday I took a new CZ 527 .223 HS Kevlar Varmint to the range for the first time.
This one is going to become a .20 VarTarg but I wanted to shoot it first as a .223 to see how it performed for a baseline to compare how it shoots after being customized.
Even though the barrel is coming off I wanted to break it in right in case I use the barrel for something later. the rfle had been fired 3 times in the factory test and in my break-in I did the fire once and clean thoroughly then fire again routine for ten shots. I then fired one fouler that was low and outside followed by a 5 shot 100 yard group. Keep in mind this 5 shot group is the first 5 shot group fired in a rifle with 14 total rounds down the tube. The load is an arbitrary load that happens to be the favorite load in my other CZ .223 which is a Varmint Laminate.
Oddly enough it's a 40 grain V-Max using 27 grains of benchmark in a Federal gold case with a Rem 7 1/2BR primer, it's odd cause these are 1 in 9 twist barrels.
Thought I'd post a picture of the group.
I've got a lot of Remingtons, but the last 6 rifles I've purchased with the exception of one Cooper have been CZs. I haven't been disapointed by any of em, not one problem-child among em!
The group by the way meassured a .422 center to center. I shot 5 five shot groups and the largest was a .611, all with an arbitrary load, pretty amazing!

I've been a big Remington fan over a lot of years, but that's waning in recent times. My last three new Remingtons have required glass bedding the action, floating the barrel and working on that gawd-awful trigger, in other words, an extra $200. You can indeed make a Remington shoot, but it's going to cost you. I've startd switching over to Savage. I may have to have the same work done, but the initial cost is still several hundred less than Remington, and the end result is about the same accuracy wise. Just one mans opinion. Best wishes.

Cal - Montreal

MD you should try some winchester white box in that gun, I have the same rifle and it will average .5 for 5 all day long. infact I have never been able to shoot anything out of it that didn't go sub moa that is about 6 factory ammos and one handload I threw together. My little CZ is without a doubt my favorite little shooter. I just now need a CZ cabine in 223 they never seem to come up used

PC,

I too felt the synth rems were a bit....not right for me, and so put the $ on a VLS in .243. Can't wait for it to arrive. It just felt better to me. Personal I know, but everyone has there own comfortable zone.

Cheers
Fortysomething

It's difficult isn't it....I know if I traded for a cz 550 22/250 varmint and it shot well I would be a lot happier than my rem 700.............but that does shoot well just I hate the feel of rem's

PC, I have the exact rifle you are asking about. I can't comment on its performance compared to the VSSF, because I don't have one, but I can tell you about the CZ.

I have not shot any factory loads through it, so hopefully you reload. I have done quite a bit of load development with mine using the 50 and 55gr bullets. If I recall correctly, just about everything I have shot has been below 1 MOA. I've got a spreadsheet on my loads if you want it. I'm still trying different loads, but at this point I'm really only splitting hairs. My best group to date has been 0.226" using the 50gr Sierra Spitzer and 35gr of Varget. Several other loads have turned in 3's and 4's, but the Sierra Spitzer seems to be the most consistent and most accurate (cheapest as well! So much for the plastic tipped bullets).

I did bed the action, but mostly just because. Not for any problem that I saw. Can't be sure, but I'm guessing I shaved an 1/8" or so off some loads.

It's a great feeling rifle and quite attractive as well. When I first got it, the bolt movement was a little rough, but that has since worked itself out and is now like butter. I certainly do love mine.

Hello Fortysomething,

I'm sure your Remington VLS will be a good shooter, if only you can lift it! I got one in 6mm Rem. It's quite accurate, and didn't take long to work up good loads for it, but gawd the weight is a killer. Must go about 12lbs. all scoped out. If you see a guy near you in the woodchuck fields pulling his rifle in a cute little red golf cart don't be alarmed. It's only me! Best wishes.

Cal - Montreal

jethro,

I really like crf rifles and hence the cz calls me...............one day in my haste to shoot a couple of foxes I short stroked my rem 700 and mucked up and did not get any foxes, if it had of been the cz one round would flicked out and a new chambered, I am glad to here yours shoots well...........if I do this I will also have to get it's bigger brother in .308 so it won't be lonely

Have to disagree about the comparison between factory steyr and remington accuracy. Have and sbs in 6.5 that is remarkable. Have a cz in 223 and a remington in 243. The shoot about the same. Pleased with both. Remington might be a better rifle.