I'm thinking I need to add one of the evil Black Rifles to my safe. I'm looking at the Bushmaster Predator as I will use the gun to hunt yotes & bobcats. Anyone have any thoughts on the gun or can recommend any others I should be looking at to get the most bang for the buck.

Thanks,
Shawn

After my first trip for Pdogs I realized that for the very most fun, that evil Black Rifle would be the very best choice for that sport. The best of the best is the Colt Accurized Rifle, 24" 1 in 9 twist, A3, special trigger and freefloat aluminum handguard.

Check it out!

http://www.colt.com/law/car.asp

Accuracy is better than you can hold, and yes you are on the right track!

Good shooting

Have been looking at this one, myself. Have a 10/22 by Clark that is a tackdriver.

Click on link for home page, then click on the AR in upper right hand corner.

Clark's Custom Guns

Regards,
hm

I have a cav arms lower that I'd like to put a flat top on just haven't got around to it yet. I have 2 Armalite National Match rifles that I really like.

Thanks guys, I really like the look of the Clark in the below link.
http://www.clarkcustomguns.com/gatorarV.htm

Also I looked at Colt but did not really want the 24 inch barrel. Bushmaster Maskes a Varmiter model that is close to the Colt with 24 inch barrel, but I liked the 20 inch of the Bushmaster Predator (little lighter & faster to handle).

I like the long range sniping the varmints.

I also like to walk amoung the varmints and make fast off hand shots with the semi auto 10/22.

The AR15 can do both.

My daughters love them

I have a Rock River Arms AR with a varnmit upper. I love it! Great shooting gun, and shoots under an MOA. Not bad pricing either.

I love a bolt gun and use it for all of my hunting, except varmints. For that, I put this little gem together:



Despite the fanciness, this is a HUNTING rifle and will be my varmint rig. It was mainly built for calling coyotes and for getting
out of the truck window quickly for runnin’ dogs. Hopefully not too many follow-up shots will be necessary, but it's
nice to know they’re there if you need ‘em quickly.

I don't want to hijack your thread, so more details can be found from my original post about a year ago:

Original Post

Go to UPPER and then to LOWERS.

That should do the trick for around $695.

---Mike

Thanks guys for the help, I was about sold on the Bushmaster Predator but now ya'll have me rethinking it.

I really like the "auto" selector, I might have to look into that

The Bushmaster Predator would be a fine rifle & a little better for calling yotes than my rifle,
but I wanted more wt., more of a Varmit or precision number & I am big enough to carry it all day anyway. I bought a RRA Varmiter with the 24" bull & it is a shooting machine.

www.rockriverarms.com

RRAs are good, but they cost about $250-400 more than the choices I gave (the lower IS a RRA with a 2-staqe NM trigger). Model 1 Sales has 24" or 16" uppers for the same price if you are so inclined.

A friend has a 16" from Model 1 Sales and it is a real tack driver. He has the Eagle Firearms RRA lower with the RRA NM trigger. This is an out of the box rifle and it shoots in the .3's with hand loads. All for about $700.

With the EXTRA $300+/- you save over a RRA, you can "upgrade" your scope choice.
An $800 scope becomes a $1100 scope, etc.

Just a thought.


Model 1 Sales



Eagle Firearms Lowers

That is a good buy, I wonder if they have one in
204 with a 1-11 or 1-10 twist to shoot the 40's?

I just sent them an E-mail about this & thanks again.

A 204 with a faster twist would be a hoot wouldent it ? I have a RRA with 24" barrel with a B L 4000 6x24 .1 in 8 twist that loves 60 gr Sierra's.I cant imagine how much fun a .204 would be.I to would want to use at least 40 gr.

I built an AR with a kit from model 1 myself. Built it on a Mega brand lower. Used their 20 inch Hbar barrel and full float handguard not the heavy bull barrel. Put a RRA two stage match trigger on it and if PA. allowed semis to hunt with it would be my varmint rig.

Jacobite, I have heard about this stupid rule but I thought they only restricted Big Game rifles, you mean Varmit Rifles too!!!

Are they afraid you might kill 2 Coyotes crossing a field instead of one? Do they keep a flag at the State Capital with a hammer & sickle
on it? I guess too many people live in Philly &
Pittsburg.

No semi auto rifles or pistols for hunting and semi shotguns for small game only. No semi shotgun if used for deer. No Sunday hunting either.

quote:

Originally posted by Rod Smith:
That is a good buy, I wonder if they have one in
204 with a 1-11 or 1-10 twist to shoot the 40's?

I just sent them an E-mail about this & thanks again.

Rod, you are welcome and it is a very good buy.
If Model 1 has a varmint upper in 204 I'm not sure, but if there is enough interest, who knows?

They do have Varmit 204 Uppers for $450.00 with
Fluting avail. for $50.00.

Ooops

I shot a friend's Bushmaster Predator during a PD shoot two years ago. Awesome rifle, tons of fun. Followup shots on walkers/runners was the most fun. Do it!

quote:

Originally posted by Rod Smith:
They do have Varmit 204 Uppers for $450.00 with
Fluting avail. for $50.00.

Ooops

I'm looking on Model 1's site, where do they list uppers in 204?

Frank, I don't know where it is listed, but I
have been e-mailing them.

They just e-mailed me & told me they have the
204 in a 1-10 TWIST !!!!!!!!!

I must sell my 22-250.

Thanks Rod, I guess I'll have to call them. Dang, this is getting to be an expensive hobby.

I've got a DPMS with the 20" SS bull barrel and a 6x45 with 16" heavy or at least thats what they called it when I bought, upper. Use the 6x45 on running deer, got four bucks with it in front of the dogs last year, shooting the 85 grain Sierra BTHP, love that bullet.

Thanks Rod.

---Mike

PS don't sell you 22-250. It has it's purposes...

Flippy, it is true that the 22-250 is useful, but for me it is a limited use. I have a 25-06AI on the high end of a Varmit rifle, & with the 125 Wildcat ULD, it will outdo a 22-250 bad at long range & in the wind & this is very low volume shooting where I live, so using the Sendero for this is no problem.
For PD & high volume shooting the 223 & 204 are better & for me targets as well.
I guess for a man with one rifle & he wanted energy for long range Coyotes & wanted a little more wind bucking than the 223/204 & if he would be careful to let the barrel cool at a PD town, then the 22-250 is a great all around Varmiter. However, since I have both the low end
high volume/target & the high end low volume, high impact energy, windy conditions rifle
spectrums covered, I am not sure I will use this new rifle much. I used a Swift many years ago with great results & I used 2 diff. 22-250's with great effect also, but now my need for it seems limited. I have a New Rem. 700 VS that at this point is unfired, I need to decide soon & if I don't sell it, then I will start shooting it hard with an eye on screwing on a 260 or 308 heavy fluted barrel on it later.

Rod, that makes sense to me. Having several .223s as well as a few lesser cartridges and a very accurate 6mm Remington, I see no real NEED for a good 22-250.

My next rifle will be a .204 and then I will probably succomb to my desire for a good 22-250 and buy one.
Unless something else catches my eye that is...

quote:

Originally posted by Fjold:
Dang, this is getting to be an expensive hobby.

Frank, I have a friend that runs quads.
He currently has 6-7 of them.

Every year or two he buys TWO new ones (the latest technology, of course) and sells the oldest two or three (sometime he picks up a clean used one to resell), all of which have been "tricked out" with every carbon fiber/titanium/race spec/rocket science engine and suspesion gee-gaw you can imagine and some you can't.
In case you haven't done the math, these things REALLY depreciate over time, you never get the money out of them you put into them.

Add his "custom built" enclosed trailer (with bunks for 6 and a very small "cooking area") to haul all of this crap; 5-6 sets of extra tires mounted on wheels, gas, spare parts, etc. etc.
Plus the quad cab diesel dually to haul the trailer.

He must have $80-90K invested in his "hobby" at least.
While I will admit they are fun to ride, give me a freakin break.

Now THAT'S an expensive hobby...

Oh yeah, every hobby has the fanatics, I just didn't think that I would be one of them!

One neighbor has a private airplane, the other races drag boat. There's just no hope for us.

quote:

Originally posted by Fjold:
There's just no hope for us.

Yep.

Bought a KelTec SU16C and used it last year. I normally take 1-2 of my young kids and sometimes in rugged country. The folding stock and light weight made it much easier to carry out kids and yote. Mine has the 16" barrel and true folding stock which is not as stiff as my other guns, but got used to it. Only loaded up one load using the Speer 52HP (fastest powders best w/short barrel, settled on IMR3031 that I already had) and it shot MOA without any tweaking so I should be able to improve on it this year (will also play with the 40VMax). Not sure what they are going for now, but @ $475 that I paid new I have been happy so far (hope to hunt much more with it this winter).

Deke.

there are some locals in this area who use their ar's for pigs out near tatertown,ca.

I have a Bushmaster 24" Vaminter and a Colt #6724. That said, if I was starting over, I would get a RRA 20" Varminter!

You guys are so lucky! I wish our government "trusted" us with these perfectly legitimate sporting rifles!