Quote: Splat???? Mist???? You are disgusting. I've killed thousands of Pdogs and hundreds of ground hogs and never once thought of which bullet gave the biggest "splatter", but rather, which one would kill the best and quickest. I think you've spent too much time in some cheap video parlor. In other words, grow up!
No it is not that I have seen them. I am wanting to shread ground hogs. How mad would you be if you just heard that your best friend was hurt and his horse had to be killed because his horse stepped in to a groundhog hole. I have a 223 that will shoot the same hole at 100yrds all day long. It also will hit 90mm clay targets at 600yrds. I am looking at building a custom rifle that is just as accurate but will smear them all over he11. So dry up your bleeding heart tears because I am also planning on purchasing a 50BMG. And yes it will be used on groundhogs.
Ray
Posts: 187 | Location: USMC | Registered: 28 September 2003
I have 2 questions. 1. What caliber dilvers the most splat at 150-250yrds? 2. My 223 loves 50-55gr bullets. Which one gives the most splat with a muzzel velocity inthe 3400fps range?
Thanks
Ray
Posts: 187 | Location: USMC | Registered: 28 September 2003
My 22-250 with a 50 B-tip blows stuff around 4 feet out to 300yards with a body shot. Drop down to a 40gr, maybe a TNT or something real fragile get up around 3700-3800fps in your 223. A deer sized rifle 308 based case (243,260 so on)or larger (06 family up to magnums) with a light high speed varmit style bullet should make a mess. I am going to try 78 grain Bergers and 85 Grain B-tips out of my 25-06 this year, should be nasty. 50BMG would cause red mist if you want to get serious, lol
#1= My all time favorite "splat, turn them flips, gut em in mid air, throw them a few feet" was(they don't make the bullet anymore) a Winchester 90 grain Positive Expanding Point bullet from a 25-06!!! The 87 grain Remington Power Lokt Hollow Points performed pretty well also! 85 grain Balistic Tips at 3615fps provide some pretty good results too! And 75 grain VMax's cause some serious non-reparable damage! #2= As far as a good "goo causing" .224 size bullet, the VMax's do nicely and again the old 50 and 55 grain Remington Power Lokt Hollow Points can make a good mess with a .223 or a 22-250!!!! GHD PS: Another goo causer is the 115 grain Speer from a 7mmMag at 3400fps!!! Now that one is a bit much!!!!!! GHD
Posts: 2495 | Location: SW. VA | Registered: 29 July 2002
I got a 7mm mag. That sounds like the ticket. To bad I just sold my 25-06. I was just tired of that rifle. Looks like a good reason to build a custom 257 or 6mm with 7mm Rem Mag brass. Or do they make one like that.
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Ray
Ray
Posts: 187 | Location: USMC | Registered: 28 September 2003
Ray, I don't know if I've ever seen a 6mm or .257 based on anything from the 7mmRem Mag case but there is the .257STW!!!! Now that one will scream!!! GHD
Posts: 2495 | Location: SW. VA | Registered: 29 July 2002
I don't have the experience of most of you, but I can vouch for 130 grain Nosler BT from a .270 at shotgun ranges. It gives a good visual of how long the small intestine is.
Posts: 582 | Location: Western PA, USA | Registered: 04 August 2003
Splat???? Mist???? You are disgusting. I've killed thousands of Pdogs and hundreds of ground hogs and never once thought of which bullet gave the biggest "splatter", but rather, which one would kill the best and quickest. I think you've spent too much time in some cheap video parlor. In other words, grow up!
Posts: 2037 | Location: frametown west virginia usa | Registered: 14 October 2001
bja, Funny you should mention the "intestine" bit! In all my 40 years of groundhog hunting, the most "crawl-offs" I've ever seen have involved large caliber(30 is big to me!!!) projectiles hitting in the not the most appropiate places on groundhogs! 10 foot strings of guts, stomach contents splayed over several square feet, blood trail to hole......can't count him if you can't pick him up!!!The "little guys".....222,223,222MAG,22-250,6x47,243,6mm,25-06,270, all seem to empty their energy on the groundhog before passing thru, albeit some biggies make a mess resulting in DRT's....dead right there's! Bullet placement is still first and formost if you want to count them though!! GHD
Posts: 2495 | Location: SW. VA | Registered: 29 July 2002
No, Marines take ground the Army won't bother with, then they use your corpse's for carpet to walk over. Every military needs cannon fodder and the GIrenes serve us well. Semper Fi, Fodder Guy.
Posts: 288 | Location: Kentucky | Registered: 23 August 2003
Now boys, if it weren't for both these branches of the military we might be having this conversation in German, or Arabic. We have real enemies, no need to turn on each other. I've shot a fair number of 'hogs and lots of prairie dogs with a 7 rem mag and 168 gr Matchkings. Accurate at long range, not at all explosive. My 22-250 with 50 gr v-max bullets nearly turns 'em inside out at ranges over 400 yards. My new toy, an ultra-light .243 shooting 70 gr Sierra Blitzkings just shreds 'hogs in the 300 yd vicinity.
Posts: 866 | Location: Western CO | Registered: 19 February 2004
You are exactly right and my apologies to our Marine. BUT, this ongoing talk about blowing guts and fur into the stratosphere is childish. Most of the catostrophic failures of fleshy critters occurs at very close ranges using extremely high velocity. Solid chest hits on crows inside of 200 yards will cause them to come apart but groundhogs tend to just have large holes on exit. I killed hundreds of them 25 years ago using nothing but a 22-250 and Hornady 55 grain spirepoints. I now shoot a .223 and winchester bulk bullets. The critters get just as dead but the holes tend to be smaller..say golf ball compared to baseball size.
Posts: 288 | Location: Kentucky | Registered: 23 August 2003
Quote: I have 2 questions. 1. What caliber dilvers the most splat at 150-250yrds? 2. My 223 loves 50-55gr bullets. Which one gives the most splat with a muzzel velocity inthe 3400fps range?
Thanks
Ray
Ray, To answer your questions, I like the .243 with 55gr. Nosler Ballistic Tips and the .25-06 with 100gr. Ballistic Tips. The destruction is impressive, and the 'hogs die on the spot. The bullets I like best in my .223s are the Speer TNT 50gr. and the Hornady 50gr. V-Max. They are very explosive, and turn prairie dog-sized critters into a vague memory. This makes nature's job of recycling them that much easier.
A word of warning to those who act a bit too sensitive regarding a person's enjoyment of varmint-vaporizing: men generally have a deep-seated love of blowing shit up (that's why some guys join the Marines, SEALs, etc.). Get in touch with that part of yourselves again.
George
Posts: 14623 | Location: San Antonio, TX | Registered: 22 May 2001
Quote: A word of warning to those who act a bit too sensitive regarding a person's enjoyment of varmint-vaporizing: men generally have a deep-seated love of blowing shit up (that's why some guys join the Marines, SEALs, etc.). Get in touch with that part of yourselves again.
Well put... Seems like a lot of hunters are more in touch with their "feminine sides" lately... I guess they just don't make men like they used to...
I've started a thread about "girlie men" in the Big Game forum... Amazing how they come out of the woodwork when you use the term girlie men. I directed it at noone in particular and they're howling bloody murder. Methinks they protest too loudly....
