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The lack of the solid base will also make them a tad shorter, weight for weight, thus making them better adapted to some calibers. For instance, my .222 Sako Magnums will not accept a 55 grain B. Tip without it being seated with the ogive curve below the case mouth. The same is true of the 40 gr. B.Tip in many .22 Hornets.

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Originally posted by wwjmbd:
I think they just pulled in the lead for the cool name factor in varmint bullets ahead of the varmint grenade bullets from barnes.

I am still a huge fan of the hornady spsx spire point super xplosives.

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Originally posted by jim62:

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Originally posted by wwjmbd:
I think they just pulled in the lead for the cool name factor in varmint bullets ahead of the varmint grenade bullets from barnes.

I am still a huge fan of the hornady spsx spire point super xplosives.

Well, when you think about it, it was a logical step for Nosler. They really did not have any "Economy" grade varmint slugs in their lineup to compete with Hornady and Speer in that regard.

It will be interesting to see how they are priced.

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The biggest difference between these and our BT Varmint bullets will be the flat base and the fact that they will be sold at a lower price point.

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Originally posted by jim62:

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The lack of the solid base will also make them a tad shorter, weight for weight, thus making them better adapted to some calibers. For instance, my .222 Sako Magnums will not accept a 55 grain B. Tip without it being seated with the ogive curve below the case mouth. The same is true of the 40 gr. B.Tip in many .22 Hornets.

You are making some erroneous assumptions.
No, I've assumed nothing. I'm merely speculating. That speculation may or may not turn out to be accurate, but it has a reasonable basis.

First of all, Nosler lists their new 55g slug at a BC of .296- they did NOT get that number by SHORTENING the slug.Correct. They get that number where all bullet manufacturer's get their B.C. numbers: From their posteriors. Advertised B.C. is exactly that and usually varies significantly from actual B.C.

The thing you overlooked is the new bullet nose CAN have substantial air space behind the tip. The Nosler 55g slugs look to be as long as many 60g bullets."Look to be"? Now you're the one who's speculating, but doing so based on an unscaled illustraton.

The 40g Flat based tipped slugs have about the same BC as a boat tailed 40g V Max etc. You don't do that by making a flat based bullet shorter.

As to your comment about accuracy and the solid bases- well not every rifle (especially smallbores) shoots best with boat tailed bullets. Some rifles hate 'em. I have not seen any great inroads in setting BR records by Nosler solid based bullets vs flat base slugs in 22 and ^mm cal rifles. The Nosler Solid Base Ballistic Tips are widely regarded as yielding outstanding average accuracy for a hunting/varminting bullet. They are not represented to be target bullets. Your observation that some rifles don't do well with them is an accurate one, however this can be true of any given bullet/rifle combination.

It IS good to see plastic tipped 40g slugs with FLAT BASES available for .22 cal rifles.I fully agree, particularly if they are SHORTER than the boattailed Solid Base parent and if they are less expensive. I fully intend to give some a try when they are available, and until I see them in the flesh so that they can be compared to the B. Tip I'll continue to expect and hope for them to be, weight for weight, slightly shorter than the comparable B. Tip.

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The lack of the solid base will also make them a tad shorter, weight for weight, thus making them better adapted to some calibers. For instance, my .222 Sako Magnums will not accept a 55 grain B. Tip without it being seated with the ogive curve below the case mouth. The same is true of the 40 gr. B.Tip in many .22 Hornets.