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I feel like spending a bit of money on my HB Remmy 700 .243 and I'm thinking a new trigger would be nice. So what do all you varmit boys and girls like in your rifles? Is it worth changing the remmy trigger? What do you think of Rifle Basix triggers (they seem to be the right price)? What's a good weight for trigger pull?.....sorry about the 20 question. Thanks Lazo | ||
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I've used the Timney and Shilen and they are nice triggers, but the epitome is the Jewell. Nothing compares to it. It is quite expensive, but you will not be unhappy with it. Goes from about 1.5 ounces to 4 pounds, this is one instance in which you get what you pay for. The one that I have is set at 8 ounces. | |||
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I have not had the "luxury" of putting on an aftermarket trigger on my 700. One day, it will happen. In the meantime, I have adjusted my factory trigger to the way I like it. So, is a Jewell or other neccesary? No, but it would be nice. I don't have a trigger pull guage, but would guess that mine is about 2 pounds with no creep or overtravel. Feels great! I would suggest trying to adjust the factory trigger before shelling out more money for an aftermarket. If you don't like the factory, then get your "dream" trigger. Just might save you some green! And the Remington trigger is very easy to adjust. | |||
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Well, I have a whole bunch of Remington rifles in the safe and am really picky about my triggers. On my "big game" rifles, I still have the stock Remington triggers, but they have been "blue printed" by a VERY competent gunsmith. They are set at around two pounds and they are extremely consistant. BUT, on my varmint and competition rifles, there are Jewell triggers! ON EVERY ONE! There is no other trigger that compares. I have tried others, but the Jewell is THE BEST. True, they are terribly expensive, but they are great triggers. Do not even try one unless you want to buy one. My dad bought them first, and after trying his, I wound up with a whole bunch of the darned things. I shoot silhouette competition, and I have tried such things as the Rifle Basix, the Bond Triple Lever, etc. The ONLY other trigger that is as good as Jewell is made pretty much only for single shot silhouette pistols by a fellow named Mike Dewey. His triggers are superb!! But back to the subject at hand. I whole heartedly recommend the Jewel triggers though I understand that not everyone wants to spend over $200 on one of the darned things. I have all of mine set at 4-6 ounces and they are remarkable pieces of equipment. R F | |||
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Be advised! Once you own one, you will need one for every rifle you own.(rem type etc) | |||
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I have a rifle basix trigger on my Shilen barreled 700 .22 CHeetah. I think it is a great trigger and will use another one on my next project rifle. I have the 8oz.-1.5lb set at 8oz. but my next one will be the 6-20oz. model. I know its not a Jewel and have shot Jewel triggers before but you can get the rifle basix for $104.95 at Midway and won't be sorry you got it! | |||
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FWIW, I have two Jewell HVRs and I'm about to pick up a third. Once you shoot one you're unlikely to go back. Regards, Matt. | |||
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Before spending the big bucks on the trigger, make sure you need it for what you are doing. For varmint hunting a Remington trigger can be adjusted to be safe and ridicoulously light by the right person. The 25-06 I just finished is set at 18 oz and just printed another couple .250 groups this afternoon. Could it be better? I don't know. But for groundhog hunting and punching informal paper, it suffices. Put your money in quality glass or something else connected to your sport. GHD | |||
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I have Shilens on my big game rifles and Jewell`s on my varmint rigs.I have a Timney on a Model 7 that is no better than the trigger that came on it. | |||
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Jewell is the #1 aftermarket trigger. However any trigger under 1 1/2 to 2 pounds on a field rifle is a little dangerous. For this type of setup I have found Canjar's single set trigger can bring the best of both worlds. In the set mode weights under 8 oz are easily done, in the unset mode a clean crisp release is at about 2 pounds. These are not cheap either about 170 to 180 dollars. muck | |||
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Aaahhh....... if I just had it to do over again! How many times have I said that! If I had it to do over again I would stick with factory triggers CORRECTLY adjusted to 32 ounces for all my Varminters. I presently have Varminters with Shilens, Canjars (set triggers),Timneys, several Jewell's and 3 Remington 2 ounce triggers. My point is that all my Varminters should have the same weight of pull and correctly adjusted for no creep. I have a new (this winter) Sako single shot in 6mm PPC and its fine, light crisp trigger pull is preceeded by at least 2/10" of military style takeup before the final pressure of trigger movement to produce firing! This will complicate my upcoming Varmint Safaris even further. Most all my Varminters do multiple duty on various types of Colony Varmints, Predators and numerous other Vermin species (Badgers, Magpies, Crows, running Jack Rabbits etc.). And again I think I would be somewhat better off with the same weight of pull and trigger crispness on all my Varminters. I just set the trigger yesterday on my latest addition to my Varmint arsenal. I set the trigger at 40 ounces on a heavy barreled Remington 700 in 220 Swift. This rig will be used a lot for Rock Chucks, Coyotes, Fox and maybe even an Antelope or two! My wonderful Schraeder trigger gauge shows it to be very consistent at that weight and also very crisp! And I plan on using it on those cold Montana nights spotlight/calling Coyotes when gloves are mandatory. So the extra 8 ounces were dialed in on this trigger. I think the Remington triggers can be adjusted to be very consistent, crisp and safe - entirely pleasing to me for Varminting. After 35 years of swapping, fiddling with and comparing triggers (and after having paid the big bucks several times for Jewells and many other brands!) that Remington factory triggers (properly adjusted) are VERY hard to beat in the Varmint fields! Ditto that for Varminters I have owned made by Ruger, Winchester, Sako, Harrington & Richardson, Smith & Wesson, Kimber and others I have forgotten about - correctly adjust the factory trigger and Varmint away. If I had the choice of buying 2 more Jewell triggers or one more Rifle like the nifty Remington I just bought two days ago (for the same money!) - I would go for the Remington Rifle! No hesitation. Then I would carefully adjust the trigger on it and Varmint gleefully on! Jewell triggers in my mind are the best on the market today for Varminting but the expense is just not justified over the factory Remington trigger! And please consider my main point of wishing all my Varminters were set at similar weight and crispness. Good luck with what ever you choose to do! Hold into the wind VarmintGuy | |||
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I confess! All of my target/varmint rifles have Jewels. The last one cost me $550.00 Canadian! This is what happens when you have an idiot running the country. Idots aside... Nothing feels like a Jewel. | |||
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quote:To answer your questions... 1. I like the Jewel as has been discussed here but it's pricey so I only put them on my custom rifles. I don't like the timney. I do like the Canjar 3-lever set trigger (not the 2-lever one). The Jewel is a bit more pricey then the Canjar but they're pretty close. 2. Change the trigger. Remington has about the best stock trigger of any modern mass produced bolt gun. It can be tuned. The cheapest alternative to trigger replacement is to replace the trigger pull spring with one from Hollands Gunsmithing. I think they call it a Holland's Spring Kit. This is good price performance. The next step in the price curve would be to have someone do a trigger job. Neil Jones is a popular choice. 3. Rifle Basix? No experience to share here. I might try one and see how it works but I'm pretty picky. What you find is that the triggers are good generally but the Jewel is the epitome of consistency. Light as it can be adjusted it feels EXACTLY the same every time. When you lighten many others. the feel becomes slightly inconsistent. Some times it feels like more pressure is needed, other times they can feel overly light. 4. Good pull weight? That depends. For varmints, I'd say a maximum of 1.5lbs works for me. YMMV. My Jewel on my full custom 6BR is adjusted to ounces and I like it that way. I would not have the same setup on my M70 Winchester in 7Mag. re5513 | ||
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Neil Jones can work a Rem trigger down to 1# and its safe. I have a bottom safety Jewell set at 4 oz's and it will ruin you for life. Its unbelievably crisp. Stan | |||
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