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I have been close to pulling the trigger on buying a Rock River Predator Pursuit or a Bushmaster predator model. I can get a Rock River fore around 900.00. at www.model1sales.com I can get a rifle kit with an E.R. Shaw barrel which with a separate stripped lower will get me into a flattop for around 660.00. Is there any reason to buy a completed rifle meaning are they more likely to be more accurate than one I build from parts?

I'm curious to see if anyone has built their own AR-15 and what their experiences are. It's definitely a way to save money but I don't know if that is money WELL saved.

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Posts: 33 | Registered: 28 April 2003Reply With Quote
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Hi H380, My experience with building an AR.

I bought the kit from model 1 a few years ago and I love mine, it is a great shooter and when friends saw and shot mine I have built over 6 guns from them now.

Mine was a varmint rifle, with Er Shaw

I bought lower reciever thru gun shop, mine was Star from Winchester Ky and I have had no problems with. 2 Ar's I have built, the guys were talked into buying the poly lowers and at first I didn't think that was a good idea and I don't believe anyone from AR15 thought so either but that was what they wanted so that was what they got, but now after a year they have not had any problems with them.


I printed how to assemble lower from AR15.com, gives pretty good details.

Before I assembled, I polished most parts with Dremel and flitz.

When I first put mine together and shot, the trigger was pretty stout, felt like 10 plus pounds so I bought the 3-4 lb trigger spring kit from JP Enterprises on the internet for like $10.00 and a bottle of their rycon grease and trigger is extremely smooth and easy to pull that I have never considered buying an aftermarket trigger.

Good Luck
 
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kinda depends on your skill level at putting things together. AR's aren't that complicated, but if you have 9 or 10 thumbs then it's better to buy complete. Quality wise - I really think that todays AR's have been so refined over the years that you'd have to look hard to find a bad one. One are super refined like JP's but you pay another grand for them. Have fun and when you're done send zumbo a picture of it dancing
 
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If RR has what you want, go for it. If you want some specialty item or junk tree, do it yourself. Anyone can build one. They are very easy. I built mine. If I can do it anyone can.


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Thanks for the responses.

Also, I was curious if companies do anything to accurizing to their their rifles. Meaning, am I missing out on accuracy by buying components from Model 1 sales and putting them together? Or is Rock River simple doing the same thing as I am (buying/making parts and assembling them) and charging us for it.

H380
 
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I couldn't say about manufacture's assymbled guns, I don't think I haver ever seen an AR not shoot good. On the 20th I was testing a new load for my AR at 100yds and shot a 5 shot group .553" using used brass and the cheap winchester 55gr bullets.
 
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sccm1,

What powder do you find to be the best? I'm thinking varget, benchmark, or one of the Ramshot powders
 
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H380, that particular load on the 20th, was using 25.5gr of Varget, but it was also with military brass so I kept it tuned down. I am now trying to duplicate groups using Fed brass but with fed brass @ 25.5gr I had powder burns all over outside case, I'm now up to 25.8gr testing with fed brass and groups looking alot better.

I mostly use Benchmark with 40gr bullets.
 
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25.5gr of Benchmark with 55gr Ballistic Tips. Great load for varmint popping.


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