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Need Advice About Moly
20 August 2005, 09:25
River RatNeed Advice About Moly
I need everyones advice about moly coated bullets. I have a new Remington in .308 Winchester. I only have 24 rounds through it so far.
After reading a few comments on this forum, I'm beginning to have doubts about the benefits to be gained using moly coated bullets, versus plain jacketed bullets. Any advice would be welcomed.
Best regards,........Jim
20 August 2005, 22:48
SuperMagnumI haven't personally used them but would not from what I've heard. It's only purpose is to reduce copper fouling so you can shoot more between cleaning but the moly build up is hard to remove and sometimes can't be fully removed thus ruining the barrel. Some barrel manufacturers even warn against using moly bullets in their barrel as the moly will build up excessively and just ruin the barrel. Since your rifle is new, I wouldn't risk ruining it off the bat and just shoot the plain bullets.
20 August 2005, 23:43
N E 450 No2River Rat
I have used moly bullets in service rifle Palma and 1000 yard matches.
I also used moly bullets on a receint prairie dog hunt.
I have seen tests that go both ways. However I know my barrels clean easier when a lot of shooting is done using moly bullets.
A friend used a progressive loader to load his practice 223 ammo. Before he started using moly bullets if he got a case without powder the bullet would stick in the bbl. After he started using moly bullets if he got another case with no powder the primer alone was enough to drive the bullet out of the barrel. Than convinced me that moly does reduce friction.
When I use moly bullets I clean my barrel in the same way. I do feel I can shoot quite a few more rounds without fouling the barrel out.
Tests by Norma with the 6.5x55 more than doubled accurate barrel life.
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20 August 2005, 23:43
River RatThanks, Super Magnum. I was originally hoping to shoot more, with less wear on the barrel, but I think I'm going to just clean everything out that I can, and use regular jacketed bullets.
Jim
20 August 2005, 23:47
River RatNE 450 No2........now I'm even more confused. I am using Kroil Oil and Butches Bore Shine to clean with. Should I be using something different?
Jim
21 August 2005, 02:31
N E 450 No2Jim
No those liquids are just fine.
I heard a rumor that WW molys their Failsafes so they will shoot good in many different barrels and foul less. That is one of the problems with the Barnes X, they are individually barrel sensitive. By using moly on the Failsafe factory rounds they increased the number of barrels the loads will shoot good in.
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21 August 2005, 03:01
HairtriggerLast spring I purchased a Ruger#1 in 220 Swift.
The only shells I can find locally for it are Hornady's with Molly.
The barrel does seem to clean somewhat easier. I have read that when shooting Molly bullets you can clean less frequently
I am one gun away from being happy
21 August 2005, 03:02
River RatNE 450 No2........Thanks! I'm trying to adjust to the 21st century, but am going in screaming and knashing my teeth! My shooting partner finally forced me into the computer age when he gave me his old one, and showed me some basics.
A tip of the hat! Jim
21 August 2005, 03:06
River RatHairtrigger, thanks for the sitrep.....thank
all of you for the advice!
Best regards.......Jim
21 August 2005, 03:20
Fish30114River Rat, take a look at
http://www.Zediker.com and check the info. on moly coatings. David Tubb is
the highpower rifleman. Glen Zediker is a cohort of his, and an incredibly knowledgeable rifleman. In a nutshell, these guys like moly, and neither of these guys or their affiliates are doing anything that wouldn't be the best for rifle performance.
There is stuff under the download section which is just great reading for a serious rifle guy!
Regards--Don
21 August 2005, 04:22
River RatFish, thanks for giving me that website! I'll get right to it! Going with moly coated bullets is somewhat like buying your first plastic pistol.......thanks again!
Jim
22 August 2005, 00:09
JeffMcFish - thanks for the website - lots of info for more than just Moly - again thanks
22 August 2005, 13:51
tuck 2I use moly bullets in my 17 Rem. Sako rifle. I tried some Wipe Out bore cleaner for the first time last week. I wonder, don`t know if the two products are the best way to protect the barrel.
tuck2
23 August 2005, 19:26
redialRR,
I've used moly for several years now, for many thousand rounds. I use it only on my high-volume rigs anymore (highpower and varminters).
Given the fouling and seasoning requirements each time you clean the barrel, it didn't make sense for my .30 hunting rigs or anything that you weren't going to shoot many rounds on one day. For match rifles or something you'll shoot lots of rats with, it's a good idea.
Forget the wax. I've never seen a need for it but others have made a case in favor of it.
Shoot me an email if you'd like. I've probably already tried most of the experiments you're likely to! No sense reinventing the wheel...
Redial
markriedl@yahoo.com
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24 August 2005, 05:44
tnbrian98One difference that I have seen in molly coated bullets is that no matter what the temp or humidity is..it seems to hold about the same group.
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04 September 2005, 06:54
sambar1while were on the subject of moly coated bullets how easily does the moly coating come off iv heard it rubs off if you have a couple of rounds in your pocket while out hunting is this true?
04 September 2005, 08:16
groundhog devastationMoly???? DON'T!!!! GHD
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