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Wanting to buy one of the new Remington Light Varmint Synthetic Fluted rifles in 223. Does anyone have one yet and can you tell me what type of groups you are getting with it? Any complaints with the rifle? I have not had a chance to handle one yet. jb
 
Posts: 411 | Location: Smack, in the middle of Oklahoma | Registered: 18 August 2003Reply With Quote
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i like mine very much. it is very light and really nice to carry. i havent shot mine to much but i'm getting groups of .5 to 1.2 inches with H4895 and 55gr speer bullets. i need to do some load development and see what it can really do. the weather is really nice and i might head out tommorow after noon with some v-max bullets loaded.

the stock is different. it is square almost and taper alot from the forearm back to the action. it is really stable off of the bags.

todbartell has one too might want to send him a PM to see what he likes about it.
 
Posts: 159 | Location: Saskatchewan  | Registered: 14 November 2002Reply With Quote
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Jbok & Sask_Hunter: I can't add much as I do not own one of these as yet! I am in the midst of decision turmoil over which Rifle to add to my Varmint arsenal next - the new Ruger 77VST in 204 Ruger or one of the 3 smaller calibers (17 Rem., 221 Fireball, or 223 Rem.) in the 700 LV-SF? I have pretty much ruled out the 22-250 in this Model for my needs. I have handled these neat little Rifles at several Gunshops now and have been impressed with them (feel, fit, finish balance, stock design and looks). I think they are gonna be a popular little Varminting rig!

The nifty stock appears to be a miniature version of the Remington 40XB-KS stock and mine serve me very well for many uses.

Sask_Hunter: What power scope do you have on your LV-SF?

Did you do a trigger job on it?

Good luck with your new Rifle!

Hold into the wind

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i have a 3-9x40 leupold tactical on top. im using burris DD signature rings with leupold bases. thats about all the power that i need. i still need to get the trigger worked on but it is the plans.
 
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This is not the same rifle; however, it does give testimony to the accuracy of Remington Varmint rifles. I have a Remington 700VSSF .220 Swift that will shoot 1/2 inch and less 150 yard groups with a Leupold 4.5-14x40 scope. I expect it will do even better when I put a more powerful scope on it.
 
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Hi, jbok...

I just got my LVSF in .221 Fireball, so I can't really speak about groups yet, but I can tell you that fit and finish is great. The best thing is that it is so short and light compared to my other varmint rifles. Leupold bases and QRW rings, scoped with a Burris Fullfield II 4.5-14X with Ballistic Plex reticle. Jewell trigger is shipping from MidwayUSA as I write this. Can't wait to test it out!
 
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Ben

Well, hope they shoot, I ordered mine in .223 this week and expect to have it by friday. I still have not seen one but those who have said great things. Going to put a 4.5 X 14 X 40 Leupold on mine. If it will shoot .5" & less @ 100 I'll be happy.
 
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From a styling point of view, I think the flat forend is a little odd. I understand this is most likely for sandbag use, but the whole purpose of the gun (as I interpreted it) is to be a lighter, walking style varminter. As it is, I think that more people will use a bipod than shoot it off bags, if not shooting offhand.

While I think a slightly more rounded forend would have been more attractive and/or ergonomic, it obviously didn't make enough difference in my case for me not to buy it...
 
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Got_the_bug: I hope you have the best of luck with your new LVSF Varminter in 221 Remington Fireball! The Fireball is one of my favorite Varminting calibers. It is capable of amazing accuracy, is easy on brass, barrels and still quite lethal on Varmints. It is also very economical to reload for and the barrel stays "clean" for pretty long strings of shots out in the fields! Good choice by you AND Remington.

I have two Varminters in 221 Fireball right now, one is a Kimber Ultra Varmint and the other is a Remington Classic. Both are dandy shooters.

Now to the forend of your LVSF.

I think the LVSF forend is going to suit you and others very well. Think about this attribute of that somewhat flattened forend you may not have considered as yet. It will work perfectly well with a bi-pod and of course is preferable for shooting off of sandbags over a round forend. I mean, like when using the wonderful new Dog-Gone-Good window ledge sand bags as well as sand bags off of your hood or canopy roof or a portable bench. And here is another place that flat forend will outperform a round fore arm - when using a tri-pod! Yes I use a tri-pod for the majority of my Prairie Doggin and Rock Chuckin as well as a lot of my Ground Squirrel shooting. If you have not used a tri-pod as yet then I hope you do so soon. The tri-pods I use outperform bi-pods in Colony Varmint situations easily and consistently. My home made tri-pod has a multi direction friction adjustable head that holds a small eared, flat in the middle sand bag. The flat forends of many of my Varminters fit here perfectly!

I posted somewhere that I thought this LVSF stock was a scaled down copy of the Remington full size 40XB-KS stock. I have used these 40XB-KS stocks for many years now and that flat bottomed rounded side forearm on them really helps out in the field, from a vehicle or at the range while riding the bags.

Again good luck with your new Fireball!

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VarmintGuy
 
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Fireball's are just plain fun; easy on the ears, and do a lot with less powder, a real over-achiever. So far, my old converted Rem 788 221 will outshoot my 700 Classic, but the Classic is still "stock".
Several powders work well, but LilGun and AA1680 are two of the best overall for me, especially if using 40-45gr pills.
Every cartridge has it range of application, but the Fireball overlaps some you wouldn't expect!
 
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Well, I am looking forward to working up some loads with those exact powders, so it's good to have them confirmed!

VarmintGuy...

You're right...the bipod works fine with the flat forend. I seem to remember seeing a tripod setup for sale on the web before my prairie dog trip last year...it looked pretty slick...
 
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Hey, Jbok how did those Leupold rings workout?
 
Posts: 268 | Location: Montana, up on the Highline | Registered: 03 January 2002Reply With Quote
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Got my LVSF in 223, I call it the PA, Platinum ADL. It's a bit pricey and no floor plate but all the rest is super. Very light and a strictly business varmint rifle. If it was not for Leupold quality control I would have got to shoot it this weekend. I ordered new Leupold rings and bases. Got ready to put them on and Leupold did not tap threads into the lower half of 1 of the rings. Thanks Leupold!!! Maybe I can get it back on trac by next weekend.
 
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Hey, jbok...

Yeah, you're right about it being a little pricey...as far as the floorplate/magazine goes, I guess the way to look at it (at least from what I've read) is that the internal magazine makes for a stiffer platform, and thus, it has slightly more accuracy potential.

I don't know, I and many prairie dogs can't say that my VSSF BDL in .223 has any problems in the accuracy department...
 
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I'm in the market for a new .22-250 and have been looking at a couple different rifles. I have been avoiding the Rems as in my experience are over rated. I had a 788 that out shot my friends BDL and with everthing I put in it. I got it used and it was well worn. I used a cheap scope and he had a Luepold 6x20 on his.
Another guy I don't know well but find believable, has a new stainless/synthetic Rem that he can't seam to get to shoot consistant groups at all. Several bullets, powders, and even factory ammo.

Are these just unusual or what?
 
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Finally got my LVSF in 223 topped with a Nikon 5.5x15 Monarch. Worked the factory trigger, 2 lbs with no slack. Went out to shoot it today. Shot 3/4" at 100 yards with my reloads (27 gr. Varget with 53 gr Sierra Match bullets, WW primer)that shoot well in my Savage varmint and one 3 shot group with Factory Winchester 45 gr varmint that went .325" at 100. The rifle is very light but will be great in the field.
 
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Thats way better than I or my friends have gotten. Sounds like it will be quite a nice little rifle.
I'm thinking about an Accumark mostly because of the Kreiger barrel.
I guess I'm not interested in spending a bunch of money for what amounts to a crap shoot. Nate
 
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Big Nate-As you may already know the barrel that weatherby uses is a criterion button rifled barrel.It may be a quality barrel but it should not be confused with the kreiger cut rifled barrel that has developed such a great reputation for kreiger.They are different barrels.
 
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I could be off, I'm no expert, but I have gotten the impression the button rifled barrels tend to out shoot hammer forged pretty much.
Is your experience different?
What can you tell me about the Kimber barrels on thier varminter?
 
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Actually my barrels are all match grade barrels that are cut rifled or button rifled and all shoot well.One of them is a cut rifled kreiger barrel and it is as accurate as any barrel that I own.I am just making sure that everyone knows that the criterion barrels used by weatherby are not the cut rifled barrels that kreiger are famous for.Some people are confusing the two and are thinking that weatherby is using the top line kreiger barrels on their rifles and that is not the case.
 
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I see your point.
I guess I want some plausable guarantee of accuracy.
The Criterion barrels are supposed to be pretty good arn't they?
Any idea what barrels Kimber uses?
 
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I have no idea whose barrel kimber uses.If you want an accuracy guarantee and a quality rifle you might want to consider a custom or a semi custom like H-S precision.H-S guarantees most of their models to shoot 1/2" groups and the prices aren't too bad.I wanted extremely accurate rifles myself so I went the custom route.Here in canada I paid $2500 canadian for each of my hunting rifles vs $2000 for a factory accumark.I also got my choice of stock style,length of pull,barrel maker,length of barrel,rate of twist,contour and total gun weight.All of my customs average 1/2" groups with proper handloads and they are 7mmstw's and 300ultramags which can be more difficult to shoot accurately than rifles chambered for varmint cartridges.Yet another alternative is to buy a factory varmint rifle such as the 700vssf and have it accurized.
 
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I asked a Kimber rep....and he said they make their own barrels
 
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Thanks Oldguns, guess I'm gonna have to decide something!
 
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Sorry I got to this post a little late, I rarely check the Varmint section.

I have the LV SF 223, it's a great rifle. I topped mine with a 5-15x40mm Elite 3200.


It will shoot very well with the right loads when I do my part. Here is 2 groups with 50 gr. Nosler Ballistic Tips over Benchmark


I was shooting it out to 400 yards today with the 50 gr. Speer TnT, rang the 8x8" gong a few times.
 
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Has anybody weighed the lvsf 223 stock. I would like to drop a 300 SAUM in. I dropped a Whelen CDL into a Ti stock and took a pound of of the rifle. The TI weighged 26 oz with a pad.
 
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