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At Custer's last battle enlisted cavalry soldiers were armed with a rifle and revolver. With how much ammunition for each firearm did each soldier begin the battle?


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Ammunition allotments provided 100 carbine rounds per trooper, carried on an cartridge belt and in saddlebags on their mounts. An additional 50 carbine rounds per man were reserved on the pack train that accompanied the regiment to the battlefield. Each trooper had 24 rounds for his Colt handgun.


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And it wasn't enough.....
 
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every tenth trooper was delegated to hold the horses. Quickly, the Indians began firing arrows at the horses. They quickly stampeded, leaving the troopers with what they carried on their Mills belts.

The Indians simply overran small pockets of troopers as their ammo supply was exhausted.

In the mid-eighties I signed up thru school to be part of a summer dig at the battlefield. Me, five or six other guys, and scores of nubile young college women. Park Service used a couple of the machines that set the little flags every ten feet laying out irrigation lines. We walked along the lines with metal detectors, and marked spots where the detectors indicated metal artifacts. Other students would use a trowel and paint brush and gently sift thru the dirt until they uncovered something. The teachers then took over. They found small piles of brass where a trooper had made his last stand, and many bullets that had hit the ground. They used a form of doppler radar with a fitting they could place at the base of the bullet.

Based on ID'ing the base size, they could determine 45-70, 45 LC or something else. The radar could back track the bullet's path based on known MV, impact depth, which showed impact velocity and pin point the spot where it was fired from. It was my first exposure to real ballistics and one usage.

After the battle, the Sioux took the rifles and revolvers and everything else of value north to "The Grandmother Land", Canada. That winter, the Canadian was tasked with feeding a couple thousand horse Indians who were better armed than the RCMP. Indians began to trade those weapons for beef to feed, but it made the Canadians rather nervous; to say the least. The next year, they came back south in the fall, and surrendered to the US Army. Anyway, those surrendered weapons are mostly at Rock Island Arsenal, although some are being returned to the Park Service Battlefield Monuments. Some years later, they developed a means of identifying Trapdoors and Colt Revolvers used there by having loads made up using the original molds and loads. I got a sub-load deal to turn the new brass into balloon head by using a counter sink cutter to replicate the original brass volume used. Velocity differed significantly. Several hundred rounds of every cartridge load were made, and Yuma Proving Grounds got the job of taking the weapons captured, devising a way to match the elevation via a rail gun of sorts. Bullets were matched to several rifles, and revolvers.

A highlight was finding where they think Custer's body was found, along with his scout, who was carrying a Winchester 73 (iirc). 50-60 rounds of WCF brass in a three or four foot circle.
 
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If I remember correctly, Custer was on the board deciding on the firearms to be used, and he went with the Trapdoor Springfield, instead of the .56 Spencer.

Could be wrong on that, but the only thing that kept the death toll from being higher was that Custer had to leave the Regimental Band behind, along with two gatling guns supposedly.


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Thanks for the information.
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Ammunition allotments provided 100 carbine rounds per trooper, carried on an cartridge belt and in saddlebags on their mounts. An additional 50 carbine rounds per man were reserved on the pack train that accompanied the regiment to the battlefield. Each trooper had 24 rounds for his Colt handgun.


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..."scores of nubile young college women".
 
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When you stand on the battlefield, you really get a sense of how little cover the troops had as you look down toward the river. Can only imagine the feelings they must have had watching the Sioux and Cheyenne coming up the hills from the river. Pretty much there was only grass as cover.


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Ole Miss guy,

Remember, this was the early to mid-eighties. Many young women choose, purposely, to go several hundred miles away from home to colleges. Rumors of sexual promiscuity do not generally get back home to Mom & Dad, unless accompanied by a baby...

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After the battle, the Sioux took the rifles and revolvers and everything else of value north to "The Grandmother Land



Some years ago, saw a Springfield carbine that came from a local reserve, traced by serial number to the battle. Sitting bull had it quite cozy here for a while.

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Ever have too much of a good thing, and wear a small blister on the magic wand?


I believe the medical term would be Herpes


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Interesting post tu2
 
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nope, just a blister. Three days off, and it was good as new...
 
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A blister on your dick from screwing? What the hell were you screwing? It certainly wasn't like any of the women I've had.


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The blister went away in 3 days, did the callus on your hand take longer to go away?
 
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A blister on your dick from screwing? What the hell were you screwing? It certainly wasn't like any of the women I've had.


Mental masturbation, more likely.
 
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craigster,

how many times do I have to tell you not to transpose your personal shortcomings to other, more capable people!

For the rest of you, remember your honeymoon? You screw first thing when you check into the hotel. Sometimes you make it to your room, sometimes in the elevator. Best five minutes of your married life. An hour or so later, you screw some more. Best half an hour of your married life. You go walk on the beach in front of the hotel, and go back to your room. Screw again, before you shower and change clothes so you can go down to the restaurant for dinner. There's an hour of the best sex you have had since you got married. After dinner, back to the room. Somewhere during the evening, your wife stops lubricating. Hellooooooooooooooooo, KY Jelly...

Imagine instead, that you are on an dig at the battlefield. There are about fifteen or so lovely young college coeds per guy on the dig. They seduce you at the breakfast line, so you usually miss breakfast. The 90-minute lunch, you eat a quick meal and get an hour in with somebody else. Ditto for dinner, and then there's campfire. Each time, it is a different young woman. After a week or so, you can get a blister. That reduces you to getting BJ's for two or even three days. A whole summer of this incredible orgy. And a paycheck to boot.

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Ever have too much of a good thing, and wear a small blister on the magic wand?


All the people who are poo-pooing this just have never screwed either long enough or often enough. It does happen.


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Spoken like a true Texican...
 
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Yeah, you guy were a lot younger with your sexual escapades. Probably a lot younger.

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Yeah, you guy were a lot younger with your sexual escapades. Probably a lot younger.

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In my case you damn sure got that right, like 40+ years ago.....the age of free love. Those were the days, my friend, I thought they'd never end......who knew we'd get old. Frowner


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I know what your mean. ahh the memories.

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I wonder if anyone ever called into work that they couldn't make it as they were having an erection lasting over 4 hours?
 
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A guy I know had a hot date with a local wildcat so he took more than the recommended dose of viagra. They did the deed many times in many ways, but the damn thing wouldn't got down, he did go to the ER. Wink


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Idaho Sharpshooter

I used to work for a guy who was as summer student "operator"on the Little T dig in East TN.
Apparently summer archeological digs are great places for an active YOUNG man.



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Yeah,40+ years ago there was a lot of lovin' going around with the worst thing that could happen (if you're a man) could be knocked out with penecillin.Different ballgame today.I do miss the 60's + 70's.And I have a college buddy that was on a dig at the LBH in the 70's. His name was Vance Langley;you know him Rich?


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nope, I was on the digs in the 1980's.

I think a week on the digs next summer would probably kill me. But man, would I go with one of these Cool on my face...
 
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Guys from out of town don't count against the total.
 
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Really shows how discussions about events that actually took place during our countries growing stages have become nothing more than brag sessions about the supposed sexual exploits that no one can verify!!!

Pathetic.


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Well Randle,we have all seen most of the forum posts slowly detract into other areas;+ that is not bad, it just shows an interest in a subject. I find it entertaining just like the game we used to play as early teens "Rumor". You get a line of people together + the 1st one tells some tale + it goes on down the line. The end result is NEVER what the 1st story was.We called it fun. I must admit that as a history major I do find these things sacred but why not give it a rest? No one was harmed,all ended well + as far as we know no one caught the clap.Let it rest.


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chs,

If I may paraphrase you:

"if you're so irritated, have YOU considered leaving?".

If you had a life apart from AR you might, but this is the center of your life. So, you'll continue to snipe at people who have accomplished things you don't even have the ability to fantasize about...

Rich
 
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Really shows how discussions about events that actually took place during our countries growing stages have become nothing more than brag sessions about the supposed sexual exploits that no one can verify!!!


WTF, you want pictures too? Wink

A little perversion coming through, eh?


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Let it rest.


I was just commenting about the way discussions on here have a way of getting derailed into pissers that you would expect to hear from High School sophomores.


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Let it rest.


I was just commenting about the way discussions on here have a way of getting derailed into pissers that you would expect to hear from High School sophomores.



Is it because you're just jealous that you didn't get the chance to band hot college girls?

Read your tag line...what is it, "If your irritated, why don't you just leave?"
 
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Agreed...
 
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At Custer's Last Stand Rich shagged a whole lot of nubile young women!

He calls it Custard's Last Stand Big Grin


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More like a lot of very horny young college coeds took advantage of my trusting nature...
 
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I remember this excuse for being late to work when I was about 20. Sorry I'm late, I was high centered-------on a pelvis.

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Careful...Crazy Horse is going to scold us again...
 
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craigster,

how many times do I have to tell you not to transpose your personal shortcomings to other, more capable people!

For the rest of you, remember your honeymoon? You screw first thing when you check into the hotel. Sometimes you make it to your room, sometimes in the elevator. Best five minutes of your married life. An hour or so later, you screw some more. Best half an hour of your married life. You go walk on the beach in front of the hotel, and go back to your room. Screw again, before you shower and change clothes so you can go down to the restaurant for dinner. There's an hour of the best sex you have had since you got married. After dinner, back to the room. Somewhere during the evening, your wife stops lubricating. Hellooooooooooooooooo, KY Jelly...

Imagine instead, that you are on an dig at the battlefield. There are about fifteen or so lovely young college coeds per guy on the dig. They seduce you at the breakfast line, so you usually miss breakfast. The 90-minute lunch, you eat a quick meal and get an hour in with somebody else. Ditto for dinner, and then there's campfire. Each time, it is a different young woman. After a week or so, you can get a blister. That reduces you to getting BJ's for two or even three days. A whole summer of this incredible orgy. And a paycheck to boot.

Rich

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Brings back fond memories of the weekend my wife and her girlfriends tied me up and made me tell the truth.
 
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