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It there some point you're trying to make? Oh, I forgot, it's Walter's forum. I'm glad some people actually don't tip. Now what we need is a shitty waiter/waitress database. Tipping is supposed to be for service that is above average or at least average. Unfortunately, many tip even though service is abysmal. | |||
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I never tip if I get lousy service. As a general rule I tip 15% for average and 20 to 25% for very good for bills under a $100. Although sometimes I do not punish the waiter/waitress if they are left with the entire resteraunt to themselves and it is busy. Thats managements fault. | |||
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One thing to remember is that in most states (if not all) the servers make about 1/4 to 1/3 the minimum wage just to be there. Can't even feed yourself for that kind of money. Now as to tipping, remember how they are paid. In many cases the tip you give them is also devided between the bus people, the bar, and the kitchen staff. If the service is lousy, no tip or a VERY obvious low tip to make the point. If the service is good, consider up too 15 percent. Excellent service, that's up to you to say the least. Ken.... "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn't so. " - Ronald Reagan | |||
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Different cultures I guess - however, here in the UK our serving staff are all paid at least the minimum wage. Accordingly, I have no urge to pay extra for staff just doing the job they are employed for. Certainly it would not apply in my profession! I would hate the US perception of tipping for everything to become the norm in this locale. Rgds Ian Just taking my rifle for a walk!........ | |||
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I think you are right Ian, different cultures and all that, I know most waitstaff here make around $3.00/hr so a few tips can actually get them up to a living wage. If a gal does a superb job and is kinda cute working in the right resturaunt she can make a pretty good wage. I will say this, having been a server and a pizza boy at various times in college and high school I expect above average service, but I am always willing to pay for it, and not the least bit afraid to stiff a lousy server. The main vice of capitalism is the uneven distribution of prosperity. The main vice of socialism is the even distribution of misery. -- Winston Churchill | |||
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What is terrible now is that the buffet restaurant people now want tips when they really haven't done anything for you! .395 Family Member DRSS, po' boy member Political correctness is nothing but liberal enforced censorship | |||
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Table service is a minimum of 15% to 20%. Buffets are 10%. | |||
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I think you must be from Mars and they obviously tip well. In my opinion, tipping started as a type of one-up-manship or perhaps a polishing the apple sort of thing. Unfortunately, it has come to the place that bunches of people think they need tips for doing their jobs. The customer, wanting to be a big shot, plays into their hands. Table service a "minimum" of 15% to 20%; I don't think so and certainly not from me. For me, it's 10% for restaurants that cater to middle class and below, 15% for restaurants priced high enough to keep the riff raff out and 20% and maybe a bit over for EXCEPTIONAL service in a high end restaurant. As for buffets, what are they doing for you? You're serving yourself. Are you tipping because someone clears the table? Do you tip at Burger King where you throw your own stuff away? Americans are known for being clueless in foreign countries as well. Thinking they know it all and wanting to be the big shot, they tip extravagantly. So, in my opinion, there should be no tipping at all but it has become a social convention. At least have the courage though, when service is crappy in a restaurant, on a fishing trip or when hunting to let your displeasure be known by leaving a poor tip or no tip. | |||
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I pay what the server is worth. If I get lousey serive-- they get no tip and I bitch to the manager. I see no point in this list as the level of service supplied is unknown. | |||
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I live in Germany and when I visit the US (often) I get pissed off at the attitude of restraunt personnel. It starts with the 50 questions of the inquisition that those mindless bubbleheads start blathering at the restaraunts; Do you want water? Do you want sugar or sweet and low? What kind of bread do you want on that? Do you want egg beaters or real eggs? How do you want the potatos, fried or boiled? What kind of dressing do you want? Did you want regular dressing or fat free? ect ect ect After a while I usually end up by saying"Look, just give me the damn steak and french fries like the damn menu states., and lay off the questions or else I'm leaving". I have never tipped in a restaraunt in Murka, because all of the nosy, false 'Cheshire Cat' smiles and fake intrests in where I am from actually pisses me off. Besides, the food is expensive enough already, and adding another 15% makes it even worse. If I could find a button to wear that says "don't ask me anything" I'd wear it to every restaraunt I go to. | |||
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Most restaurants are very expensive. Nothing wrong with that on its own. But, when the food is so so, and the service is non-existence, I do not leave any tip at all. In fact, some restaurants make it part of the bill now. I cross that out, and pay the bill minus the service charge, writing a note on hwy I refuse to pay for a "service" that was non-existence. | |||
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I agree with Saeed, I find it insulting that they would add the tip to the bill. They started doing that here in Montreal when the gov. started to tax people who work in the service industry on their tips. Since the Government in their infinate wisdom  decided that the best way to percieve the tax is to total the ammout of the bills attributed to that person, work out what percentage ...I believe it is 15 or 20%....that they should have recieved as a tip. Tax on that ammount. Now the complaint from these people is that since some people don't tip they are being taxed on an ammount they haven't recieved. My complaint as a customer is that I don't have to tip if the service is crap. Work harder at being nice and doing a good job and I will be happy to tip you. Don't give me the '' Well the gov. is gonna tax me so you have to pay  .''  I have to work hard at work to keep my job so why shouldn't you, and I am taxed on way more then 20% of my salary. I am a Canadian, free to speak without fear, free to worship in my own way, free to stand for what I think right, free to oppose what I believe wrong, or free to choose those who shall govern my country. This heritage of freedom I pledge to uphold for myself and all mankind. - John Diefenbaker (From the Canadian Bill of Rights, July 1, 1960.) | |||
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and that is why we like you so much. when i'm out dining i usually tip like 10-15%, regardless of service(it's more of a politeness-thing). | |||
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I like Saeed's approach and follow it myself. I always provide an explanation when I choose not to tip or to leave a lesser tip. Otherwise, the recipient would not necessarily know that their service or product was inferior. They would just think I was an ungrateful skin flint, which I am not. Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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We had some business visitors from England, and when asked what sort of food they would like to have, they said "Italian". So off to an Italian restaurant we went for dinner. It just so happens to be Valentines day. And they had two musicians playing violene walking from table to table. We were all men, so I have no idea what gave them the impression we were celebrating St. Valentines day. They came over to our table, and started playing. I asked them to go somewhere else, as we could not hear each other talk. They left, and a few minutes came back again. I asked the head waiter to tell them to go away, as we did not wish to have all that noise disturbing our conversation. His answer was "It is St. Valentines's day. We should ALL be celebrating" A few minutes later they came back again. By this time I was getting very close to taking that bloody violene and smashing it on the musician's head! Then I had a better idea. I told my guests to disregard what thgey are going to see. Got up, put my hand down the back of the musician's trousers, holding him by the belt, and dragged him backwards to the front door. Apparently some of the guests enjoyed this, as they started to clap! I told the musician to stay where I left him, and if he came back to our table, he would be wearing that violene for a hat! Needless to say, I did not leave any tip! | |||
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The UAE version of the Mariachi problem we sometimes experience here!!  Difference is that here none of the restaurant staff would disrespect the patrons as you described. I've finally given up on restaurants as the food is always disappointing and I can't be bothered by all the predictably idiotic clientele and general umpleasantness of group/public dining. I prefer dining in with friends where I can control all of the variables...  I have to say that during my travels, I am mostly impressed with the experience in small Central or East European villages most. | |||
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