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Make it Wild Turkey sir, Hunter passed from this earth Feb. 20th....originator of gonzo journalism & a lot more. | ||
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"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro". I didn't agree with much of his politics, but the man could write when it suited him. Sorry his world wasn't a happier place for him. Mark DRSS "I always take care to fire into the nearest hillside and, lacking that, into darkness." - the late Dr. Hunter S. Thompson | |||
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From Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_S._Thompson Death Thompson died at his self-described "fortified compound" known as "Owl Farm" in Woody Creek, Colorado, at 5:42 p.m. on February 20, 2005, from a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head. Thompson's son (Juan), daughter-in-law (Jennifer Winkel Thompson) and grandson (Will Thompson) were visiting for the weekend at the time of his suicide. Will and Jennifer were in the adjacent room when they heard the gunshot. Mistaking the shot for the sound of a book falling, they continued with their activities for a few minutes before checking on him. The police report concerning his death stated that in a typewriter in front of Thompson, they found "a piece of paper carrying the date 'Feb 22 '05' and the single word 'counselor'."[28] They reported to the press that they do not believe his suicide was out of desperation, but was a well-thought out act resulting from Thompson's many painful and chronic medical conditions. Thompson's wife, Anita, who was at a gym at the time of her husband's death, was on the phone with him when he ended his life. What family and police describe as a suicide note was written by Thompson four days before his death, and left for his wife. It was later published by Rolling Stone. Titled "Football Season Is Over", it read: "No More Games. No More Bombs. No More Walking. No More Fun. No More Swimming. 67. That is 17 years past 50. 17 more than I needed or wanted. Boring. I am always bitchy. No Fun — for anybody. 67. You are getting Greedy. Act your old age. Relax — This won't hurt."[29] Artist and friend Ralph Steadman wrote: "...He told me 25 years ago that he would feel real trapped if he didn't know that he could commit suicide at any moment. I don't know if that is brave or stupid or what, but it was inevitable. I think that the truth of what rings through all his writing is that he meant what he said. If that is entertainment to you, well, that's OK. If you think that it enlightened you, well, that's even better. If you wonder if he's gone to Heaven or Hell, rest assured he will check out them both, find out which one Richard Milhous Nixon went to — and go there. He could never stand being bored. But there must be Football too — and Peacocks..."[30] [edit] Funeral On August 20, 2005, in a private ceremony, Thompson's ashes were fired from a cannon atop a 153-foot (47 m) tower of his own design (in the shape of a double-thumbed fist clutching a peyote button) to the tune of Norman Greenbaum's "Spirit in the Sky" and Bob Dylan's Mr. Tambourine Man.[31] Red, white, blue, and green fireworks were launched along with his ashes. As the city of Aspen would not allow the cannon to remain for more than a month, the cannon has been dismantled and put into storage until a suitable permanent location can be found. According to his widow Anita, Thompson's funeral was financed by actor Johnny Depp, a close friend of Thompson. Depp told the Associated Press, "All I'm doing is trying to make sure his last wish comes true. I just want to send my pal out the way he wants to go out."[31] Other famous attendees at the funeral included U.S. Senator John Kerry and former U.S. Senator George McGovern; 60 Minutes correspondent Ed Bradley and Charlie Rose; actors Jack Nicholson, Bill Murray, Benicio del Toro, Sean Penn, and Josh Hartnett; singers Lyle Lovett, John Oates and numerous other friends. An estimated 280 people attended the funeral. The plans for this monument were initially drawn by Thompson and Ralph Steadman and were shown as part of an Omnibus program on the BBC entitled Fear and Loathing in Gonzovision (1978). It is included as a special feature on the second disc of the 2003 Criterion Collection DVD release of Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas (labeled on the DVD as "Fear and Loathing on the Road to Hollywood"). The video footage of Steadman and Thompson drawing the plans and outdoor footage showing where he wanted the cannon constructed were planned prior to the unveiling of his cannon at the funeral. ---------------------------- I've read everything he wrote, can't decide which I like best, nor do I have to. | |||
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I liked his writing, but have contempt for anyone who commits suicide. I may change my mind, but I am sixty now and deal with the aches and pains. Suicide just seems a coward's way out of a problem. My Father was diagnosed with prostate cancer at age 66. He had the radial surgery, dealt with pain on a daily basis, as did my Mother. He died nine and a half years later, and two days before he died we talked on the phone for an hour. We made plans, this was three weeks before Christmas, for he and my Mother to fly out and visit for Valentine's Day that spring. His only complaint was that he never had a daughter. He was pretty happy with my wife though. That's a MAN! He made the trip into Normandy in a glider, 82nd Airborne. FYI they made those things out of plywood and 2x4s. No motor, wheels fell off when you got about six feet airborne; and every landing was a crash landing. Feel sad that men like that, veterans of D-day are dying every day; not somebody who couldn't cut it when the going got tough. People like Thompson entertained us, the men like my Father saved the world. Rich | |||
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+1 What kind of person decides to commit suicide while their son, daughter-in-law, and GRANDSON are visiting? The older I get, I try not to be so black and white about suicide, but I hope I never think of it as a reasonable option. The effect upon those that are left, for generations, is just too great. "He/she was very mentally ill" is one explanation. "He/she was extremely selfish" is another. | |||
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Suicide is a very reasonable option in many cases. I keep my options open...... In the interim.......I'm drinking vino tinto now so I'll hoist one of those to Hunter......he was one of a kind.  A couple of great HT quotes:
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Rich, The world owes a debt to men like your father. Both of my grandfathers were WWII vets and great men. They are all sorely missed. I also enjoy the writings of HST and mourn his passing with overindulgence of alcohol and reckless handling of firearms.  | |||
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We all have a small streak of narcissism in us. HST just nurtured his into a four-lane highway. It is a great problem for people who become "famous" for a skill they have. We put them on a pedestal, find at some point, that they have feet of clay (like the rest of us); and when their special talent fades we have no further use for them. There they are, especially professional athletes, who have been idolized their entire lives from latency on a sad case... They have no life, apart from their skills; and now they have been rudely ousted from center ring of the circus to being handed a shovel and broom, and being asked to scoop up after the Elephants. They cannot live without the adulation of the masses, so they turn to drugs quite often, and risky behavior. HST had gotten old, and a body that was abused from his teen years on had worn out. He had gone from celebrated author to some crabby old fart to a suicide note in a last pathetic attempt to get back to the center ring. And now, he is either lamented, or criticized for a total lack of character and class. Or, a mixture of both. Rich | |||
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That's your opinion, like Hemingway, he checked out when he wanted to, I kind of admire him for that, it takes nerve to do it yourself. I don't lament or criticize him, he was fun to read and that's enough for me. He had a helluva ride IMO. I doubt he'd change much. What more can you ask? xxxxxxxxxx When considering US based operations of guides/outfitters, check and see if they are NRA members. If not, why support someone who doesn't support us? Consider spending your money elsewhere. NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR. I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process. | |||
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Whats the line from the song from the movie "Mash" "suicide is painless, it brings on many changes, but I can take or leave it if I please" My dad contracted Leukemia about 17 months before it killed him. He went from being a vibrant 85 year old man that enjoyed his wife of 63 years, his 6 kids, 18 grandkids and 3 great grandkids. About a month before he passed, he was in a terrible state. We spoke most everyday. This particular day we talked of suicide. He said he had considered it. However it was his opinion that for a religious man, suicide was the unpardonable sin. His retort to me was that how could you ask forgiveness for your act when you were dead? I had not thought of it from that perspective before. GWB GWB | |||
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The number of WWII vets that committed suicide is large, particularly as their level of pain and/or control over their lives/bodies became an issue. My father was one. Multiply decorated, a first day Omaha and Bulge survivor I see his decision as a choice not made in cowardice. He had seen to it that all the chicks were out of the nest and managing on their own; his wife was more than adequately provided for and no loved one would suffer through prolonged emotional drain of watching someone linger; nor would they suffer the economic toll his illness would take. You nor I may agree with his decision. However it was not without careful deliberation of those left behind. It was made by a man who had previously made many life and death decisions before. As a physician, I scarcely consider such decisions as cowardice. Flawed perhaps, not cowardice. I was a cursory reader of HST, but have a close friend that enjoyed his prose to the point of naming his son -- Hunter. Even with his checkered history of drugs, alcohol etc-- I dare say-- placing a gun barrel to one's self with murderous intent--is an act not best described by--coward. DuggaBoye-O NRA-Life Whittington-Life TSRA-Life DRSS DSC HSC SCI | |||
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The last act of a self-centered coward is to take his/her own life leaving behind family and friends whose last memory will be "____" killed themselves because they would not face the end of life with any dignity or courage. HST wanted to be on the national stage one more time; to be the center of attention. Hemingway was the same way. They did not check out when they wanted to. They quit when they could no longer be regarded as bigger than life and in heroic terms. We all die as ordinary people. To face a battle you cannot win with courage and die as you have lived, that is the final measure of a man. Rich Duggaboye, The sad thing is; your last memory of your father will be as a man who chose suicide as the easiest way out. I feel sadness for all of you... He could have chosen pain management and died surrounded by family and friends as my Father did when God said to him "well done, thou good and faithful servant. Now it is time to come home..." My Father turned to my Mother and told her "I am sorry to leave you, but our sons will care for you until you see me again. He closed his eyes and slipped away. You have my condolences. | |||
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Thompson was a true original. A couple years back I went to the bar for a Halloween party dressed as Thompson. Old Pendleton Native-patterned sweater, shorts, converse shoes. Brought my own bottle of Chivas.... Nobody knew who the hell I was! I proceeded to get really drunk and all around me were people in costumes. I walked up them rambling, yelling, screaming, ranting. As a writer his capabilities and mindset were inspiring. He really did whatever was on his mind. Society doesn't work that way, but I have to give it to him -- he lived at least 2 lifetimes... I had a glass of Chivas that morning and Wild Turkey the rest of the day. | |||
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I liked the Johnny Depp movie "Fear & Loathing in Las Vegas", brought back old times. NRA Life Member, Band of Bubbas Charter Member, PGCA, DRSS. Shoot & hunt with vintage classics. | |||
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What on earth compels you to make such despicable comments? How anyone can be so certain about the lives of others is astonishing to me. That is the height, or rather the depth, of presumption. Mike Wilderness is my cathedral, and hunting is my prayer. | |||
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I completely agree with mrlexma. The fact that DuggaBoye chose to focus on the two marginally positives phrases of IS's post speak volumes of his character. I certainly wouldn't respond with such grace were it my deceased family member whose reputation was sullied. | |||
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Because we are all very minor variations on a central theme. God gives us a time to live and a time to die. It's not our decision to make. Apparently the Judeo-Christian Churches agree with me, since suicide is listed as the only unforgiveable sin. You cannot commit suicide and then say God forgive me after you are dead, with the belief that He will. If you say it before, you have to stop. If it were not so, that we have to repent before we die, all of us could choose a life of total debauchery, with the expectation that we get a mulligan when we arrive at the gates of Heaven or Hell. My Father contracted Prostate Cancer at age 66. He had the radical surgery. He lived more than nine years after that. Once a week, then twice a week, and finally every other day he had a needle inserted into his bladder and initially a liter, then two, then finally three liters of a stinking brownish fluid would be drawn from him. That rotting smell would have knocked a buzzard off a gut pile (his description). He would ask my Mother to leave the house when he had a bowel movement, because the sounds he made (unless sedated nearly to the point of unconsciousness) made her physically ill. He never complained about the hand God had dealt him. He never considered taking his own life. He told one of my brothers and I once that he owed it to my Mother, his wife of more than fifty-two years, and to his children and grandchildren to finish his life out as he had lived. For God, and Country, and Family. I would have shared that pain with him, gladly, if I could have. I would have taken that pain from him, gladly, if I could have. I could only stand by and be there with him, until he closed his eyes that final time. They held his wake at the High School in town, over seventeen hundred people attended, and over two-thousand visited the funeral home and signed the book with positive comments about how he had touched their lives; for the good. One of my favorite memories of him was about a week before I got married. He had fired a classmate of mine that day for being a slacker and missing too much work. That evening I went down to a local restaurant bar with a couple of friends for a beer or ten. My classmate, Nick, had been in there since four pm when he got the good news. I walked in and he was blathering to the patrons how he had to be restrained to save my Father's life on the floor. I listened for a minute or two, and told him he was a liar. Pretty loud. It did get pretty quiet, and he and one of his friends came up and started in on me. I ran it back, and we got to the nose-to-nose thing. I told him I had a dime and would give it and my parents home phone number to him so he could call my Father out. He didn't want the dime, so I asked the guy who was tending bar to call and ask my Father to come over. He didn't want the guy to do that either. So, I suggested he bring his cowardly, dog shit self about six foot forward and start with me. Funny thing, he didn't want to do that either. I made him get down and crawl out of the bar. Actually, I gave him the option of doing that or I'd try to make him wish he had. I am not any sort of a brawler, and he was lucky cell phones weren't around then. My Father, as my brothers and I do, had a very low tolerance for stupid and mouthy. That's who my Father was, and how he lived his life. Hemingway or Thompson would have had to stand on their mother's shoulders to have been far enough off the ground to kiss my Father's Ass. I feel a tremendous sadness for Duggaboye and his family. I have said so here and in a PM to him. None of my comments were directed at him or his family. Weren't, aren't. This post started out as a commentary on HST, segued on to Hemingway, and DB volunteered his experience with his Father's last day. My comments were directed at Hemingway and Thompson in particular. They were clowns in the circus we call life, and lived for the adulation of others. When their skills deteriorated to the point that they no longer commanded that adulation, they killed themselves rather than have to live like the rest of us. That as a human being who has value based on how he treated his family and friends. As far as what qualifies me to voice my opinion on a forum here, the same centric self view that allows you to comment; in a positive or negative manner, about anyone else on the earth. The same notion that gives you the right to disagree with me here. It's called an opinion, which I laid out the life experiences I base my opinions on. It's not about my feelings about things. I know someone who's Father committed suicide. To this day, he cannot speak of him; or what he did to the family. It's a tough parting statement, to tell your family; "I'm going to kill myself, good-bye...". Rich | |||
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It is a differing view that I hold-- not animosity toward Rich. The critical choice was not pain nor fear of pain my Dad sought to avoid some 29 years ago. It was the toll of the burden-- the financial one and the one of the lingering daily physical and emotional grind caused by his care on those he loved. Much as your father viewed he owed it to his family to stay--my father felt he owed it to his to go. I appreciate your fathers impact on those he loved and his adoration in the community. Likewise was my father's life celebrated in or small town and our tiny church. It appears both men touched many lives and were blessed with friends and family that honor their memory. It is that honor that each of us in our own way seek to uphold. DuggaBoye-O NRA-Life Whittington-Life TSRA-Life DRSS DSC HSC SCI | |||
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DB, I can understand that line of reasoning. As I have said to you here, and in private; my comments and opinion were NOT directed at your father. I am sure it was the toughest decision he ever made. To leave loved ones, for a man is tough. Tough on everybody concerned. It was difficult to see my Father in such pain. We will just add your Father to our prayer list and hope that God saw the man and his life's body of work and give him the "mulligan". I would hope so. Rich | |||
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What a bunch of crap. Chester Nimitz took his own life. Anyone here question his ability to make a good decision? | |||
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Religious nuts abound. Unless you can tell me you've spoken to God DIRECTLY, in which case your really are a nut, about the matter and have some stone tablets to prove it, you're full of crap. You don't know anything more about the afterlife, if such there be, than anyone else, so get off your high horse. You BELIEVE you know, but belief is simply hope rolled into a lifestyle. What a monument to arrogance. Suicide is a very rational reponse to many situations late in life. Most of the time, younger people who committ suicide are mentally depressed or have other problems which don't need that ultimate solution, but that is flat not true of some of the elderly. I can give several examples but why bother? One either understands or he doesn't. Many people are way too afraid of death, regardless of the quality of their life, to make the completely rational decision to kill themselves under certain circumstances. Several Medal of Honor winners committed suicide to win the Medal, are they damned for all eternity? Geesh. BTW, nowhere in the bible is suicide prohibited or scorned that I know of. Since you call it as the "unforgiveable" sin, cite your biblical sources. xxxxxxxxxx When considering US based operations of guides/outfitters, check and see if they are NRA members. If not, why support someone who doesn't support us? Consider spending your money elsewhere. NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR. I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process. | |||
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SR, well, his last one (decision) did get him killed... Gato, as a matter of fact I talk with Him several times a day, and my wife and I were at His house just about two hours ago for a visit. As far as the suicide, the Bible does state that your body is the temple of the Lord, and not do desecrate it. There are so many bad things today that people participate in with pride that would have gotten them stoned in earlier times... The absolute worst case scenario, although I cannot imagine it; is that there is no God. In which case, there are no rules, why not do anything you want to do? Rape, Sodomy, Murder, Adultery, Stealing, Envy (to the point of theft or the other sins); all those prohibitions come from the Ten Commandments. Is it just some whacky coincidence that every civilized society has adopted them pretty in toto? Besides, if you are right; all I have done is try to lead a good life. On the other hand, if you are wrong... Forever is a long time to be in Hell... Forever is forever, all of eternity, darkness that never ends, and neither does the pain... I know two CHM winners, who lived. None of them thought they were committing suicide, they just did what needed to be done to save the lives of others. Neither of them consider themselves "heroes". They were soldiers doing what needed to be done. It's all any of us who served planned to do. Serve our country. The only bad thing; God, much like your parents, loves you so much He gives you free will. Like your folks when you get your drivers license, and you get the keys for your first date. Every now and then, one of those kids doesn't ever come home again. So the family grieves, and then they move on. Rich Joshua: "Choose you this day whom you will serve; as for me and my house: we will serve the Lord...". | |||
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Yeah, but does God talk back? I'm waiting for you to back up your assertion that suicide is an "unforgivable" sin............come on, you said it, where is it? Don't know the Ten Commandments very well do you? Where is rape or sodomy mentioned? AFA MH winners, I was referring to the ones who deliberately threw themselves over grenades to save their fellow soldiers. There are several of them. Absolutely a suicidal act. Are they damned? xxxxxxxxxx When considering US based operations of guides/outfitters, check and see if they are NRA members. If not, why support someone who doesn't support us? Consider spending your money elsewhere. NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR. I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process. | |||
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Didn't Jesus supposedly allow himself to be killed by the Romans in order to save mankind? How is allowing oneself to be killed different from suicide? Suicide by Romans? Idaho Sharpshooter, your personal religious beliefs don't give you license to pass judgment on the world. As for your observation on laws prohibiting murder, rape, etc., such laws don't prove that god exists, they simply indicate that groups of people living together have routinely decided on the same set of rules to govern their collective behavior. | |||
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When did this thread get turned into a moral debate? I get so tired of do gooders judging others. My brother takes care of kids from Korea, one of the kids came home and said the teacher told their friend she would pray for them that she didn't burn in hell because her mother converted to Buddhism. If they told my kid that, well, I don't know... it wouldn't be pretty. I despise organized religion. It's beside the point. It would be hilarious to see Thompson's reaction to some jesus freak lecturing him on morals and religion. And I had a friend take his life in college. If someone came up to me with this holier than thou garbage I'd be picking their teeth out of my boot soles. | |||
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300, be tough to do if they shot you dead while you were still talking about what you were going to do. Would have you have been guilty of suicide for taking a boot to a gunfight? One of my TAC instructors at Ranger School, about fall of 1968 gave me some stellar advice. As soon as the other guy makes a face or starts talking, shoot him. We aren't going anywhere with you all trying to justify suicide. If I am wrong, you die and that's it. Except people talk about how sad it must be for your family; looking at pictures of you before you murdered yourself. If I am right, you burn in Hell for all of eternity. You guys lose either way. Let go of it... Rich | |||
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Definitely not trying to justify suicide, but there are times where medications taken (particularly by teens) have been linked to severe depression and suicide. I guess their burning in hell right now by your standards. As far as bringing a boot to a gunfight... as soon as a guy starts talking-shoot him. So suicide is bad, but shooting someone over an argument is condoned? I don't understand the logic... It sounds like there are a lot of gun toting Christians out there packing because they say things that make people act aggressively towards them. I'm sure you're a fine man, with a fine family. It just irks me when religion makes people so sure of themselves and their fate, and it pisses me off more when they are so sure where the rest of us are going too... And Christians aren't getting any more disciples by scaring kids with hell because their parents choose Buddhism. I don't worry about where I'm going. I do my part to help myself and others. If I slip a few times along the way and burn in hell, so be it... I'm sure there will be a few judgmental Christians sitting around the campfire wondering how they got there too. | |||
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I should probably preface my previous posts to explain my distaste with organized religion. My pastor was busted using church donations to fund his gambling habit. He took about $20K by the time it was all over. The congregation forgave him and kept him on, at which point we left. So he's forgiven? He won't go to hell? He knew what he was doing was a serious sin all along, but he'll be fine, meanwhile a person who takes their life in a time of stress and despair voids all chance of redemption? I doubt that... Fast forward to my grandmother. 93 years old, a member of a small congregation, gets up every Sunday and goes through great pains to get to church every time. She falls ill and is in intensive care. The other members tell the minister my grandmother's condition and why she's not at church. He never came to visit her in the nursing home. That's about all I have to say on religion. I think it's become a self-righteous social club. Now back to Thompson. My favorite was when he wouldn't be friends with Depp until he fired a shotgun at a large propane tank at close range... or how he used to hand friends fake scratch cards that said they won $10,000, then watches their expression as they go in to the convenience store to redeem them and find out they're worth nothing. The guy certainly wasn't a class act, but he was respected, feared, envied and loved. A very unique individual who took control of his fate in this world... | |||
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Toast to Hunter S. Thompson! I agree under HST's circumstances, that "self deliverance" NOT suicide, IMO was a viable & comforting option when suffering like he was. Besides he wanted to go out w/ a huge bang... I have read & own all of his books, I miss his style of journalism, he will never be replaced. "A Lone Hunter is the Best Hunter..." | |||
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I was always under the impression that Christians were fairly adamant about the principle "Judge not lest ye be judged". Rest in peace H.S. Thompson, you old dog. | |||
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Ghubert: But don't you know, he'd going to Africa April 8..........  xxxxxxxxxx When considering US based operations of guides/outfitters, check and see if they are NRA members. If not, why support someone who doesn't support us? Consider spending your money elsewhere. NEVER, EVER book a hunt with BLAIR WORLDWIDE HUNTING or JEFF BLAIR. I have come to understand that in hunting, the goal is not the goal but the process. | |||
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Ghubert, common misunderstanding, the Bible NEVER said that. That's liberal dog doo trying to excuse, homosexuality, pedophilia, same sex marriage, the federal income tax system, NAMBLA, and other deviant lifestyles and types of behaviors. It's right up there with one of their other mantras: "Don't knock it until you've tried it.". How silly is that? Civilized people with a modicum of brains and common sense condemn all sorts of risky or unhealthy behaviors without having any personal experience in those things. Ever wanted to experience how having AIDS complicates your life? Or how being a multiple amputee effects your every day routine? No, because those are two things that are terminal in their consequences. So is suicide. There is no mulligan. What the Bible does say, to paraphrase, is to use the same standard to characterize others behaviors that we want God to use on our judgment day. So; if I say that HST and Hemingway were cowards who committed suicide because they were afraid to live with the results of their misspent lives, I have to be willing to live with the same consequences from God as I predict/opine for them if I commit suicide. God has a pretty simple deal, "hate the sin, love the sinner...". He just tells us we can love somebody without approving, or even tolerating their sinful behaviors. Like your kids, some days you want to just hit them with a hammer, but you still love them, even when when they disappoint you. You just don't "like" them very much because of what they did. Except, God doesn't ever feel that way about us, we just make Him sad... Rich | |||
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IS, You might want to take a look at Matthew 7, 1-5. I always believed that our Boss was pretty clear on this one... Mark DRSS "I always take care to fire into the nearest hillside and, lacking that, into darkness." - the late Dr. Hunter S. Thompson | |||
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I always loved this quote: "Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "Wow! What a Ride!'" — Hunter S. Thompson | |||
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