Classic load of 57 grains IMR 4350, WW brass, CCI 200 primer.
Plain old Speer 165 #2035. .020 off the lands. Nothing fancy or expensive but it works great.

Shoots 3/4" at 100 yds in a commercial Mauser 98 with a 24 inch barrel.

Double lung shot on a Whitetail - went 20 yds. Hole in/out and large blood trail.

Simple and effective.

Mine is 46 gr, 3031 and any 180 gr......usually a Hornady SP.

Any 150-165-180 gr. cup and core bullet will work fine. 180 gr. will normally produce less blood shot meat. 165 is a good compromise. I've always liked 4350 and non-magnum primers. Other powders that work well are 4895,760,414,4831. Good luck.

The same 57.0 grains of IMR 4350 has worked for many years with almost any 180 grain bullet, but my preference is 180 grain Nosler Partitions. Standard primers.
This load shoots well in every 30.06 I have used it in (10+).
Bill

180 gr Hornady RN, with AA 4064 seems to kill them just fine.

In factory ammo, I'd use 180 gr Remington RN Core Lokts.

Anyone using H4350 and 150's or have an accurate load with the 150 grain bullets?

60.5 grs H4350 with 150 Nos. BT's 3015fps
62 grs H4350 with 150 Partitions 3050fps
From my rifle....
The 150 partition load seems to be the most accurate .......

i usually stick with 52 grs of IMR 4064 and any good 150 gr bullet. usually Sierra

I've shot 4 whitetail with 47 gr of Accurate 2520 and 165 Cor-Lokts at ranges from 55 to 135 yards, and only had one go 15 yards. The other 3 were DRT. Velocity is only 2650, but it shoots sub 1/2 minute in my old J.C. Higgins Mauser.

Is that an original JC Higgins Stock? Whoa... very nice.

Yes Terry, the stock was busted clean through at the wrist by the previous owner (a friend of mine) who took a header while hunting. Our local gunsmith glued it up with dowel rods and acraglass and the darn thing is as accurate as ever. The ebony forend tip is his doing also, but every thing else is original except the trigger.

I use VVN 160; 54 gr behind a 180 gr. Partition and 57 gr. for 150 gr. Hornady RN.

I do not hear much about the Vith powders on AR. Are they not that popular in the US?

WW brass,WLR primer,61gr.RL19,Nosler 165gr. Partition or Accubond seated .030 from the lands shoots well in my A-bolt and puts deer down fast.

I've used this load for everything except brown bears. 180gr nos/par,58gr H4350, win brass, fed 210 primers. This is a great all purpose load for the lower 48.

Yenta, you are over book, just saying and I am sure it is fine, but Hodgon lists 57.5 max. My go to is 58 Hunter and 180NP or 49 Varget and 165 NP. Other 06's like 58 grs H4350 and 165 NP.

Saw on TV yesterday that Hornady is bringing out a special line of "Whitetail Deer" loaded ammo in various calibers. The 308 uses the good old 150 interbond at modest velocity that will no doubt kill 99.9999% of Whitetails very dead with one properly placed shot. Medium weight bullet, lower velocity all adds up to better accuracy and less flinching. Rather sounds like the good old 300 Savage in a 99 that was the standard deer rig for decades. "Utes" forget that the 300 Savage was brought out to almost equal the (then) super powerful 30-06 with 150 gr bullets in a lever action. It did so very well.

So load your 06' with a good 150 softpoint at
27-800 fps and go kill deer. I'd load a 150 Game King over 54 gr W760/H414. Simple and deadly.



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My 760 likes the Hornaday 180 grain BTSP over 56 grains of IMR 4350. 2758 fps over my Chrony. This is my black bear rifle but am sure it would do well on deer.

My rifle likes the 150 gr Hornady SpirePoint pushed by RL15 to 2965 fps.

My 30-06 deer load generally uses H380 at whatever charge weight that gives the best accuracy and a 180 gr. Hornady spire point. This load works so well that I need no other, velocity is around 2600 fps.

57.5g Imr 4350,150g NP, Fed 210
Less than 3/4 groups at 200 yds w/ 2 different shooters.
White tails (or hogs) at any sane distance or angle.

Hey were talking 30-06, you can load it with snuff and marbles and it'll do its job..

Want an instant quick kill, load it at 2500 to 2600 FPS with a 170 gr. 30-30 bullet of any make, I like the Hornaday Interlokts or the Nosler partition or the Speer or Sierras..but you might be sure and keep these bullets off the bone and just stick them in the lungs. The expand wildly at that velocity. Use them for stand hunting and broadside shots only.

I like a cup full of H4831 behind a 180 Nosler for about any big game hunting, it just works.

I use 49gr. of 4895 and a 150gr Rem.Bronze Point. This has been my fall back load for 40+ years. I still have about 1200 of the Bronze points left. This same bullet goes in my 308 Wincheter for a Model 88 lever and a MM77 bolt. Works well on Mule Deer.

I bought "my" 30/06 in 1986, Win M70
Lightweight with a "Win Tuff" (laminated) stock.
My go to load that Killed Deer Elk Antelope Bighorn Sheep Mtn. Goat Coyotes Hogs etc was
56 grains IMR-4350 and a Sierra 180 Gameking. CCI or WW primers and WW brass.
I killed Elk from 35 yards to 425 yards with that load and never recovered a bullet from any animals, great performance and great accuracy.
The rifle is 29 years old and has been used hard for all kinds of mountain hunting, rough hikes as well as horseback hunts. So I sent it out this past year and should be getting it back soon with a new Bartlein Barrel same contour (lightweight/ featherweight) 2" longer and a new ceramic finish on the metal from top to bottom.
I will of course shoot the "old" load in it but plan on working up a 165-168 grain load with TTSX's and Accubonds to see if there is a "new" favorite.
I'd like to find 1 load and shoot everything with that again, just simpler.

I am very prejudiced to using IMR-4350 in the 30/06, I have found it to be a stellar performer in so many cartridges that I load for
.243 Win, .257 Roberts, 6.5x55, .284 Win, .280 Rem, 30/06, 300 Win Mag, .338 Win Mag. Soon to try it in a .270 Win.

I started out using 52.2 grains 4064 with any 150 grain cup and core bullet. Works fine on moose, caribou and deer. For years I kept hearing 4350 was THE powder. I got some and my 30-06 does better with the 4064.

I rely on 2 working loads :

1. Sierra 165 GK / N 160 / 60.5 (884 m"/2900 ft")
2. Sierra 180 Pro hunter / N 160 / 56.5 (826m"/2710 ft").

The 165 shoots a bit flatter but in terms of killing power, I fail to see a difference after shooting a few dozens of red deer, wild boars and roedeer. Regarding accuracy, my Sauer 202 keeps 5 shots of the 165 in .3 MOA and the 180 in .5 MOA.

All in all, it's a toss-up but I tend to feel more secure by going to the 180 for wild boar, although experience has proven the 165 GK was up to the task (it's all in the head, you know...)

I used 4350 and old surplus 4831 in my 06s for years, but the last 10 or so years I have graduated to RL-15 and H414, simply because they meter so accurately without cutting, and that's a time savor for sure. I seldom weigh those loads and just observe the fill.

These two powders fill the case to the neck or a bit more, accuracy is outstanding, velocity is faster, and pressure is mild, in my 06s..

I like the 150 gr. bullets on deer size game as they kill a bit faster and without too much meat waste.

However for a one load to shoot everything I would go with a the 180 or 200 gr. Nosler, they kill small deer very well indeed, and they work great on elk and moose, even worked well on some very large African animals.

The 30-06 can do it all, if you can shoot, it has never failed me in any way and I have pushed it to its limit.

Atkinson, I remember an article in one of the rags back in the 70s called. "Dynamite on deer" in which the author recommended 170 gr 30-30 bullets at 2600 to 2700fps. Used such a load for years back in Michigan. Never chased a deer over the hill to a gutpile, ALWAYS anchored them right on the spot! When the woods are crowded with meat hungry hunters it pays to drop them right there. 46.5 gr of 4895 did the trick for me

56.5grs IMR4350, Hornady 180gr SST, 2868fps from my T3 and 3/4" 3-shots at 100yds.

48gr of IMR4064 under a 165gr Nosler ballistic tip or accubond.

According to Jack O'Connor a 30-06 rifle that won't shoot well with 48grs of IMR4064 and SOME 165gr bullet doesn't require a gunsmith... it requires an exorcist..

I'll go further if it won't shoot a Either 165gr Nosler, it needs to be in somebody else's gun-rack or dumped at sea or at very minimum re-barreled.

it is my firm opinion that there is no deer that needs a 180gr bullet to persuade it to spend the winter in my freezer...
and even a fairly frangible bullet like a 165gr ballistic tip will fully penetrate a deer.
I've personally shot at a deer and killed that deer and the deer standing behind it as well.

They both dropped in their tracks as my brother says "like a sack of potatoes"...

AD

Its been about 65 years ago, but I think I got that deer load with the 170 gr. 30-30 bullets from Jack O'Connor, I even tried the 150 gr. 30-30s but they were just too destructive, but did they ever put them down pronto..even on mule deer.

Today I just run a 150 gr. Balistic tip at about 2800 FPS or some of my old Win. Silvertips and they mostly drop deer on the spot. I don't care what you use, sometimes deer just make a lot of tracks, especially with heart shots! double lung shots near the heart are usually the quickest..

Atkinson,
Your recommendations on the the 06 with 30-30 bullets match mine almost exactly. I needed a good load to shoot in my 24 inch barreled double gun for late doe season. All I could find were some 150 grain round nose Speer bullets meant for loading in the 30-30.

I don't recall what the powder was but they were loaded to 2700 FPS. Shot three deer in a row with this load, the first two died on the spot because I shot them broadside through both lungs.

The third one was partially covered by a tree trunk but I thought I could kill her anyway with an angling forward shot at the rear of the lungs, she only made it about 50 yards across my pond dam and piled up dead.

Where I hunt, 100 yards is a long shot through the timber, and I rarely have to shoot over about 50 yards. I don't chase them around, I just sit early in the morning and let them come to me.
These 150 grain 30-30 round nosed bullets really do the trick when used for lung shots, I wouldn't want to hit a major bone with one of them though, it would ruin a lot of meat, I'm afraid. Bob

I've had a 30-06 of some ilk for over 40 years and the classic load others have mentioned with 180 NP over 56-57 gr IMR 4350 served me very well. Nowadays in my 24" barreled Remington I'm leaning more toward the mono metals. 165 TSX 61 gr R 19 at about 2840 fps and 150 TTSX over 52 gr R 15 at about 2990 are currently my go to loads. For my newly acquired HVA with 24' barrel 180 NP over 62 gr MRP give 2800 fps and I think I'll just stick with it.

Mark

Reindeer VVN powders are very expensive here in the states. Just about twice the cost of Hodgdons or the others available here.

Today I use only H414 in the 30-06 and my favorite deer bullet is the cheap WW power points from Midway..That's the best bullet Ive ever seen, it expands at 3100 FPS and just as well at 1400 FPS...No other bullet will do that..I got this from Handloader magazine test, and they tested every premium or cup and core bullet out there, The two bullets that reigned supreme were the ww power point followed closely by the RN Rem colelokt. all tests were in the 30-06 and .308...I tested these figures out at my range and they were spot on..

Needless to say Ive laid in a supply of both bullets..I think I always knew this but convienced myself it couldn't possible be true..

Ray, you said the winchester power point is your favourite whiptail bullet. Is that the 150 or the 180 that you use. Thanks

H4831 and a Sierra 180 grain SBT 'gameking' in 30-06. In .308 still H4831 and drop to the 165 Sierra SBT 'gameking'. 142 deer shot, 141 single shot kills and no deer lost. Only the doe who took a second shot traveled more than 50 yards. She was shot at about 15 feet, behind the ribs on the left with the intent of breaking the right front shoulder, but the bullet didn't make it there. Then I had to make a 200 yard shot across the hay field as she tried to jump the fence on the other side.

58.5grs of Accurate Arms 4350 with 168gr Nosler BT @ 2990fps will put them down on the spot if you do your part.

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Originally posted by vines:
i usually stick with 52 grs of IMR 4064 and any good 150 gr bullet. usually Sierra

+1 except I use 52.2 grains 4064

Andre M thank you for sharing that Sierra/N160 load. I've a box of the bullets either 165 or 180 and three canisters of the powder. You've inspired me as all the usual info is Alliant powders. Of which I've a few canister remainings of H414 and somebody or other's 4350. Neither enough to develop a losd and then make up a good fifty round batch.

After having done some reading and research my load for this fall's whtetail hunt will be 56gr. of IMR 4350 and a 165gr. Sierra bullet. I am getting fine accuracy with this load in my pre'64 Winchester M/70 Featherweight.

Bbell,
Ivd shot both the 150 and 180s on mule deer with the WW Power Point, and the Rem. RN corelokts..Midway sells them cheap..Ive also used them in the .308 Savage 99..I suppose I like the 150s best in both bullets, it puts them down a little quicker, on elk the 180 is best by a long shot..Just two good bullets.

But the problem with the old 30-06 is it seems to work just fine with almost any bullet, Whereas the 300 magnums prefer premiums. The 06s velocity of 2700 to 2800 FPS works well with most any cup and core bullet. Not saying the 06 is better than a 300 magnum, just that its kinder on bullets.