50 gr, IMR 3031, 405 gr, Remington bullet, CCI mag primer, seat/crimp at crimping grove. Produced one hole group at 100 yds.

Do you know what kind of velocity?

Nosler 300 gr partition
54 grains H4198
Fed 210 primer
M.V. 2150 FPS

For factory go to Garrett.....

I use 46 grains of 3031 behind a 405 grain cast bullet in my Marlin guide gun for moose hunting but it is a stout recoiling load. My practice load is a mere 36 grains and they hit to darn near the same POI at 100 yards or less.

my guide gun also loves 25 grains of H322 under a 405 grain cast bullet as a zero recoil plinker round. It does not appear to be position sensitive just be careful not to double charge your case!

My Guide Gun likes 52gr I3031 over either the 350 FN Hornady @ 1800 fps. Will shoot as accurate as most bolt guns.

For a load with a classic bullet, the Gould hollowpoint Lyman 457122 if my memory is correct, over 45gr AA 2230. My mold drops it at 340gr. Not a hot load but devastation on deer and hogs 250lbs and under. Always been very comfortable to shoot in my guide gun.

Never had the guide, but have had the classic 1895 as well as the Cowboy. Miss having a .45-70 lever gun. Once you get beyond about 1700 with that 405 Remington, it starts to gain one's attention.
For a plinking and finishing load, I carried the Lee 340-grain cast over 12-15 grains of Unique.

I have a 1895 Marlin, new model, crossbolt safety (gag), and that damn thing wont cycle 405 grain bullets at all! Every time I load some I end up taking the rifle apart to get the cartridges out. I load them to spec; cant recall the length, I'm at work. The 300 gr Remington does everything I need it for around the house. If I took it after moose I'd get a 350gr.

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Originally posted by NRC:
My Guide Gun likes 52gr I3031 over either the 350 FN Hornady @ 1800 fps. Will shoot as accurate as most bolt guns.

this is the one I use too.

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Originally posted by Eterry:
I have a 1895 Marlin, new model, crossbolt safety (gag), and that damn thing wont cycle 405 grain bullets at all! Every time I load some I end up taking the rifle apart to get the cartridges out. I load them to spec; cant recall the length, I'm at work. The 300 gr Remington does everything I need it for around the house. If I took it after moose I'd get a 350gr.

They need to be a finished length of 2.55 inches. Start with 2.55 and cycle one. Then go 2.54 and cycle ..ect. You should be able to quickly find the sweet spot for your gun. 1then make a set of dummies and try a gunful several times to test it.

The 300gr factory @1800 is too fragile below 100 yds . But the 300 premium works fine .I use the Barnes .Standard bullets can make a huge hole !

Had an 1895 marlin back in the 80s before the guide gun came out. 22” barrel, wood & blued, beautiful rifle. Killed a couple of moose with it. It was my Boat gun when hunting the rivers and sloughs or when ever I was fishing. I was young and still learning about things like bullet integrity, jacket thickness and how velocity can affect your bullet. I figured 400gr in a 45-70 was good for anything in Ak. Lost confidence in it when I had jacket separation and went back to my 30-06 and nosler partitions. Ended up selling that rifle. BIG MISTAKE. Now I know I was pushing those bullets to fast and if I’d have kept those 400s to about 1500 to 1600 I’d have been fine. Now we have woodleighs, kodiaks, and Barnes and you can run em fast and they’ll hold up to a moose shoulder. My load was 52gr RL7 and a 400gr Speer. Book claimed 1960fps. I think maybe it was more. Man, I wish I still had that rifle.

I used Re 7 and 350 horn flatpoints in my 1895 22" barrel. A Lee factory crimp die makes a big difference I found. Anyway, I ended up at an even 2,000 fps and it would shoot broadside through big kudu, and break the shoulder and penetrate to the off side on eland.

trapdoor loads

405gr fbfn with 36.0gr of h4198

405gr fbfn with 43.0gr of varget