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10 May 2003, 12:23
todbartell
Looking for 30-06 165 gr. loads
If you got any good load using a 165 gr. bullet, I'd like to hear it. Seems 4350 and RL19 are quite popular with this weight bullet.

Thanks
10 May 2003, 12:58
MADDOG
57 gr. H-4350 has ruined the day for everything that I have shot, With that load. 165 gr Nosler part. 3/4 groups at 100 yds.
2 caribou
1 5X5 bull elk
3 cow elk
1 Black bear 400 + lbs.
4 or 5 deer.
All 1 shot except one small deer ( go figure ?)
10 May 2003, 13:32
<Terry P>
I used IMR 4831 and 165gr Hornady bullets. Shot less than MOA out of my old Winchester 70.
10 May 2003, 13:35
craigster
todbartell is pretty close. I use 57.5 grs of IMR 4895. Works for me. [Smile]
10 May 2003, 13:37
craigster
Oops, meant to say MADDOG. Sorry 'bout that. [Smile]
10 May 2003, 16:05
boilerroom
Tod

My old man's sako liked 56.5gr of IMR4350, 165gr. NoslerBT and Fed bench primers.
10 May 2003, 23:54
owensby
I use 57.5 grs of I 4350 and a 165 gr SST in my 06.Its a Rem. mtn rifle.
12 May 2003, 19:40
<fishnfool>
Mine is the same as boilerroom's except my bullet is the 168 gr. Nos./Win. CT version of NBT. Gives 2780 fps chrono. out of my Rem. M700 DU rifle. Shot a nice 180 lb. 8 point this yr. with it, and he only made it 40 yds. with a lung hit.
13 May 2003, 07:56
P-17
My favourite 165-grain hunting load in .30-06 is 62 grains of Reloder 22 ignited by a WLR primer. I've also had virtually identical results with 61.5 grains of H4831SC. My hunting rifle is a Remington 700 Stainless Synthetic Mountain rifle, and that Reloder 22 load averages about 2780 feet per second and puts the first three shots out of a cold barrel into an inch at the center of the bullseye at 200 metres every time.

Another excellent and uniform combination is 50 grains Varget with the same bullet. This load is an excellent target load, and works safely and wonderfully in my Garand.

John Barsness writes that somewhere between 57 and 58.5 grains of IMR 4350 creates the ultimate .30-06 load with a 165-grain premium bullet, and I've found that combination to be outstanding, too.

In fact, I'd be willing to bet that any reasonable rifle powder between, say, IMR 3031 and Reloder 22, would give good results with a 165-grain bullet in .30-06. It's just one of those magical cartridge/bullet combinations.
14 May 2003, 00:34
John Frazer
quote:
Originally posted by P-17:

John Barsness writes that somewhere between 57 and 58.5 grains of IMR 4350 creates the ultimate .30-06 load with a 165-grain premium bullet, and I've found that combination to be outstanding, too.

In fact, I'd be willing to bet that any reasonable rifle powder between, say, IMR 3031 and Reloder 22, would give good results with a 165-grain bullet in .30-06. It's just one of those magical cartridge/bullet combinations.

I read John B's article and he actually says any of the 4350s work well -- he says H4350 is a little less accurate but that it's also less temperature-sensitive and meters better.

I tried a bunch of powders in the range you mention with my old Model 70 and Hornady 165s -- but couldn't find any that would hold a candle to H4350 or IMR 4350. I couldn't see any accuracy difference between the brands, even I fired a bunch of groups.
14 May 2003, 02:19
Bob257
My Remington Mountain Rifle likes 59 grains of H414 and the 165 Nosler Ballistic tip. It shoots much better than it's supposed to! I can get half inch groups at 100 yards if I do my part!

Bob257
14 May 2003, 08:02
the444shooter
Barnes XLC BT bullet, 165/168gr

VIT N160 55.0gr@ 2857 fps - 59.0gr@3041 fps

Barnes Manual #3 recommended powder, 24"bbl
figure 2950~3000fps with a max load in a standard 22"bbl.
24 May 2003, 01:45
Alaska Bush Man
If you are using a Bolt or Single Shot 30-06 Reloader 19 is excellent Powder followed by IMR 4350, when teamed up with Fed Match 210GM Primers and Fed Cases.

But if you have a Browning Auto or Rem 7400/742 I suggest VARGET w/CCI BR2 Primers or IMR 4064/4895 w/FED 210GM primers due to the chamber pressure curve, a faster powder is needed.

I am very fond of Sierra 165 BT and Nosler BT. The Hornady Accubond should be superb also.
29 May 2003, 17:51
MADISON
We use 46.0 to 46.5 grains of Win. 748 behind a Hornady 165 BTSP.
MADISON
30 May 2003, 01:49
B17G
Todd,

I concur with P17, H4831 SC: 61.5 grains is the most accurate load I get out of my '06s with 165 and 200 grainers.

RL19 is a good followup or RL22.

Hodgdon powder is usually my 3 favorite brand of powder but for this combo has given the best results
01 June 2003, 13:09
KuduKing
165 Hornady BTSP
57.5 H4350
WLR primer
2920 fps
3/4 MOA

[ 06-01-2003, 04:17: Message edited by: KuduKing ]
01 June 2003, 13:10
KuduKing


[ 06-01-2003, 04:17: Message edited by: KuduKing ]
01 June 2003, 13:17
KuduKing
quote:
Originally posted by KuduKing:
165 Hornady BTSP
57.5 H4350
WLR primer
2920 fps
3/4 MOA


01 June 2003, 19:18
<BigBob>
todbartell,

This load is within the max load in the new Hodgdon's manual but I suggest that you work up to it. In my Rem. M-700 BDL this is what I call a safe max load. The bullet is the Sierra 165 grain SBT. Powder is 59.5 grains of H-4350. Primer was the CCI BR#2 in Win. cases MV=2830 fps, Standard Deviatioin is 5.1 fps. Extreme Spread was 11.0 fps. After culling groups I mad mistakes in, the average sized group of five five shot groups is .247" I had a Leupold 6.5x-20x on the rifle while shooting groups. Remember, work up to this load. Good luck.
03 June 2003, 18:16
todbartell
I tried 57.0 grs. IMR 4350 with 165 gr. Barnes X flat based bullets, R-P nickel case, and a CCI BR-2 primer. Seated .050" off the lands in a Winchester M70 push feed. Average for three 3 shot groups was 1.15". Didn't have time to chrony, but the accuracy is there.
21 July 2003, 02:42
Rich Elliott
22 inch barrel Rem. 700 Mt. Rifle.
59 grains WW 760, 165 grain Hornady spire point,
WW case, WLRP's. 5 shotS averaged 2,825 fps. 1st three into 3/8" next 2 opened to 1 1/2"
THIS LOAD WAS CAREFULLY WORKED UP FROM WAY BELOW IN .5 GRAIN INCREMENTS
Rich Elliott