Anyone shooting IMR 4064 at 1000yds?With 168 match bullet in a 308 ??

Yes, but I had a little better luck with the 175gr SMK and the 178gr AMax out past 600.

No. The 168 will go subsonic and tumble. If you want to shoot a 308 at 1000 yards better use a 175 SMK or a 190SMK.

I was given a 1000 yard load that is absolute maximum for a 308, and depending on the brass, overmax. It is a 190 SMK 42.0 grs IMR 4064 Fed 210S Fed cases. I have found that using LC brass I blew primers, and using WLR blew primers. But my combination is accurate.

1000 yards is a long way with a 308.

Thanks for the info.The reason I was asking my shooting buddie and I went and shot some at 1000yds for the first time last tuesday,WE shot IMR 4064 at 43.4 grs.and the 168 and I was wondering if I needed to go up a little in grs of powder.or use a load of varget.They didn't have any targets hung but had four clay birds in a square and one in the middle.I have a springfield scope on the rifle and was useing the 1000yd mark,It was zeroed dead on at 200 yds with cross hair.
Still had to go up more clicks to get on.The first clay bird I hit I was shooting at the one on the right bottom and busted the one on the left.Then I busted 2 more by aiming at the bird.Let my buddie shoot and he busted 2 more with my rifle.Next time we are going to see what kind of groups we get on a target.If I can get a group in the 20 inches I will be tickled.
I am sure a lot of luck with us being first timers helped us bust the birds we hit.
I couldn't tell wether the bullets were side ways or not then but should be able too when we shoot at a target.
The reason I went with 4064 and the 168 is that I had heard that was what a lot of bench shooters used with the 308,But the rifle I have will shoot a lot of other different powders just as well.I need to get some of those 175's and give them a try,I allready have some 155's I want to try also.

Only way the 168s will make it to 1000 is with a 30" barrel. 175 Berger VLDs with 44gr of IMR-4064 will get you there with a 26". The BC on 168s is just not high enough. They work great to 600.

Not to be a smart a-- but what do you think was busting those clay birds and spraying the sand around the ones we missed with a 23 in barrel if the bullets aren't even suposed to even get there.
We couldn't have been shooting at a lesser yardage,the range was set up for only 1000yds.
I do want to try some 175's though,after I try the 155 pamalas.

Well as four busting clay discs at 1000 yards, very good. The range I shoot at is so soupy that it would be hard to see a clay on a 1000 yard berm.

The 168 SMK was for decades the bullet to use in a 308 Service rifle. All they way out to 600 yards.

In bolt guns, it was the bullet to use out to 300 yards. When you got to 600 yards then some folks shot the 168 but the majority shot 190's. It was almost a preference as in theory the 190's were better ballistically, but I have a hunch the 168's were marginally more accurate.

Around 1996 or so Sierra came out with their 175 SMK. That was when the M1a was disappearing fast, being replaced by the AR15, and the 308 bolt guns were being replaced by Space Guns and 6.5 mm cartridges. The last NRA National Match won by a 308 was in 1996, by Tom Whitaker.

The 175 is a very accurate bullet, and might have replaced the 168 at 300 or 600 yards. Hard to say. The M1a shooters would have used it at 1000 because the 168 was very iffy at 1000. Lots of people were using the military 175 FMJBT, which is at best a 1.25 MOA bullet, at that distance.

Thanks slamfire for the info,I looked for some 175 yesterday but no one had any,so I will have to order some.
I have about 250 of the 168's so I want to try those first just to see how they do then I have a bunch of the 155 pamala match I want to try.
I am not wanting to shoot any matches,I don't care any thing about doing that I am just seeing how good a factory rifle can do.
What they had at the range I went to was they had dumped sand on the bern below the targets and to the left of the target form.when we shot the sand was wet and I didn't think it would splater much when the bullets hit but it did good.I was useing a springfield 308 scope in 14 power and you could see the bullets hit real well.
My brother gave me part of a box of military match in 173 gr last year and wish I had a truck load of them,they shot one holers at 100 and 300 yds.
I tried the 4064 and 168's this morning to watch for pressure signs I shot one three shot group with each,43.5,44.5 and 45.0 and one group with varget 46 grs.Three of four groups shot one holers.The varget gave me the fastest speed at 2789 fps,the 45 grs of 4064 gave me the tighest group at 2736 fps.So I am going to try those 2 next time at long range.Was useing FC brass,br-2 primers and didn't see any pressure signs with either load.

168's will get there ,heck the Palma shooters do it with 155's starting at 800,900&1,000 yds. ive had no problem with 168's doing 1,000. good job ownensby... regards

Thanks jjmp.I see how others get hooked on long range.I just went the one time and I can't wait to go back.
I wish I had tried the 1000 many years ago.But I still not too old to learn and I really do appricate any help I get.
I shoot a lot more than a lot of others,but the more I shoot seems like the less I know.Or could be the older I get the less I remember??
Thanks fellows

10-4 bud,enjoy the sport,keep reloading records,memory fades with age,we''re never to old 2 learn, regards

Using Winchester brass, 210M and seated into the lands 42.5 grains was glorious with the 175 and 178AMAX.
I've shot this load out of my Remington 700 LTR and a CZ 550 varmint rifle.
2650 and a standard deviation of 3 out of the CZ.

We still haven't been back to the 1000yd range yet but the shop finally got me some 175's to try.I shot some test loads yesterday useing varget at 100 yds.43 to 45 grs.Got the best group with 45 grs,.202in at 2689fps,the worst was.651 with 43.5 grs at 2585fps.
MLC do you mean the load you posted was with 4064? will have to try that and see what I get.And how long is the barrel used?Thanks for shareing.
My buddie just got him one of the new savage target models in 308 and now we are waiting for him to get it dialed in.

Yes, IMR 4064.
The CZ barrel is 25.6".