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Very impressive. Whats the story on the Mare ? Must be pretty special. Operations and recovery are long and expensive. How did she manage to break the leg ? Very nice closing and suturing of the wound. I'd like to tour your clinic and talk horses !


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I am impressed!!! What more is there to say!

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The mare is a reining mare that won significant money in the NRHA as a show horse and is a proven producer as a broodmare. She belongs to large horse ranch in the area.

She is protective of her foal and kicked at another mare in an adjacent turn out paddock. She hit a pipe.

Anyone is welcome to see our hospital...come by anytime.


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So how long of recovery time is it for these animals? 6-8 weeks before they can run again, or is it longer?

I presume with horses being so influenced by pain that you guys have to use some sort of continuous infusion pain meds? (I assume that is what that clear stuff on the neck is)
 
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Amazing!


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My favorite kind of doc is a good horse vet and always will be. Looks like you have a great facility!
Do you fix broken Stocks on your own Rifles too? Lot's of screws in that leg!


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So how long of recovery time is it for these animals? 6-8 weeks before they can run again, or is it longer?

I presume with horses being so influenced by pain that you guys have to use some sort of continuous infusion pain meds? (I assume that is what that clear stuff on the neck is)


Horses are very slow bone healers. 5-7 months before completely healed and stable (no pun intended) for free exercise.

She is on no pain meds at this time other than a low-moderate of NSAID.

At the time you are referring too...she was getting some IV fluids with calcium borogluconate. She lactates so heavy and she was leaking so much milk in recovery...it was lowering her serumal calcium...thus hindering recovery.


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Amazing stuff. One question though, won't the screws going through the bone irritate the muscles and ligament sheaths? Will those screws and plate come out at some point? I've had the same sort of thing done to one of my legs but the screws and plate remain. That mare is lucky to have such a doctor.


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No sir...the screws will not irritate anything...they will remain for life.


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It would have taken me at least three trips to Home Depot to get all those screws.


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The advances in equine surgery or rather equiine medicine for that matter have always amazed me..

I guess because horses have always been my first love from the day I was foaled. Hunting and guns, have always held second place to the surprise of most folks or so it seems!!!


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Doc, had my wife look at the post. Bigtime animal lover and RN.
She has worked with Ortho's in the O R for years, She said "Tell him great job, he's better than most of the Ortho surgeons she has worked with.... Cool
 
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Met your cousin Billy Easter at Texoma Cowboy Church last Sunday in Wichita Falls. He spoke at our men's breakfast and is quite the person. Told him about the surgery pictures and he spokehighly of your ability. Had a nice visit with him.

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Do you have a swimming pool for therapy and/or exercises too?
Perhaps Saeed family members will give you a call for their racing Thoroughbred?
 
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Met your cousin Billy Easter at Texoma Cowboy Church last Sunday in Wichita Falls. He spoke at our men's breakfast and is quite the person. Told him about the surgery pictures and he spokehighly of your ability. Had a nice visit with him.

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Hi Don,
Billy is a salt of the earth person for sure!


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No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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How about an update on the mare? Any new photos?


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The mare is a reining mare that won significant money in the NRHA as a show horse and is a proven producer as a broodmare. She belongs to large horse ranch in the area.

She is protective of her foal and kicked at another mare in an adjacent turn out paddock. She hit a pipe.

Cost of operation and post operative care ?

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It's a video. (click on the picture)

She is doing outstanding. Dr. Troop, one of our repro doctors, has flushed two embryos out of her in the convalescent period thus far. She is close to 60 days out and will go home soon.


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A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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Grizz,
I will look those exact figures up for you when I am at my office. Computer tomorrow. Sorry I did not see your request before.


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Wow Lane - very impressed.

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Thanks for sharing this Lane.
Most folks don't have a clue what it takes to be a horse owner.
Very nice workmanship and stapling is a "fine job".

Are those screws Titanium as they use in us?
IF so, Will would have hell finding them at H/D.

Only question I really have is the screws over penetrating the bone. Seems to me it would be better if they were just flush. It'll take quite awhile for scar tissue to build up to cover them. Not very easy to trim them off I know. Just some thoughts is all.
How old is the mare? I've been around a lot of high dollar horses at the T-Cross ranch. Some over $50,000. What's the value they place on this mare? Just curious mostly.

Way back in the early 60's Dad had a fine stud with ring worm and had his feet worked on at Ft Collins vet hosp/school. Didn't have the padded head protector that I recall but, the lift was about the same. They had a big jib crane to swing them around with too.

Do you fix quite a few broken legs?

Nice clean place too.
Congrats on the whole setup, very interesting to see what you do.

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The mare is a reining mare that won significant money in the NRHA as a show horse and is a proven producer as a broodmare. She belongs to large horse ranch in the area.

She is protective of her foal and kicked at another mare in an adjacent turn out paddock. She hit a pipe.

Cost of operation and post operative care ?

Grizz

Anyone is welcome to see our hospital...come by anytime.


Total bill with 2 months hospitalization and 2 embryo flushes included...~$18,000.00


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No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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Thanks for sharing this Lane.
Most folks don't have a clue what it takes to be a horse owner.
Very nice workmanship and stapling is a "fine job".

Are those screws Titanium as they use in us?

No...we still use Stainless Steel in horses. 2 reasons: 1) While titanium is stiffer, lighter/size, and less reactive...it is weaker in bending...something we can't tolearte in horses due to size and not being able to make them "spare" the leg for a while. 2) cost...SS is cheaper for the same sized implant.

IF so, Will would have hell finding them at H/D.

Only question I really have is the screws over penetrating the bone. Seems to me it would be better if they were just flush. It'll take quite awhile for scar tissue to build up to cover them. Not very easy to trim them off I know. Just some thoughts is all.

While we do shoot for flush...slightly over penetrated is usually stronger than under. The bone does not have to cover then ends of the screws. Surgical screws break on 2mm and measuring can be less than precise to the mm anyway...thus...hard (and not necessary) to get exactly all flush.

How old is the mare?

13 years

I've been around a lot of high dollar horses at the T-Cross ranch. Some over $50,000. What's the value they place on this mare?

She is insured for ~$100K. Anymore...a less than $30K horse is a cheap horse in the industry I work in. I know the Norris's at the T-Cross fairly well.

Just curious mostly.

Way back in the early 60's Dad had a fine stud with ring worm and had his feet worked on at Ft Collins vet hosp/school. Didn't have the padded head protector that I recall but, the lift was about the same. They had a big jib crane to swing them around with too.

Do you fix quite a few broken legs?

Quite a few.

Nice clean place too.
Congrats on the whole setup, very interesting to see what you do.

Thanks

George


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A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House

No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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Last update...she walked up the ramp and into her owners trailer yesterday afternoon and went home. They sent me a text an hour later that she was safely in her home stall for the remainder of her convalescent period.


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No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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I'll bet that made her happy to be home again.
Thanks for the further info.
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Lane:
Just to compare a bit. It looks like as big as that bill is for two months and all the doings you guys did. You work mighty cheap compared to people work. Here's some recent examples I've had done to me.

Back fusion 11/05 $113,000, just the four 2 1/2" lags with studs, four nuts, two flats about 1/2"x3" were $33,000 for the hardware alone. All titanium of course. Thurs 2pm, til Sat noon.

Had Chron's hit me in 2012, nearly died from it, perforated colon poisoned my internals. Spent 21 days in a coma, another ten in the hosp. Itemized bill I got last week was $280,766. No idea what the bill was for the nursing home for 9 weeks came to after that hosp stay.

Had to have a second "gutting" to take out the last of the colon rectum etc in Oct '13: $120,000. Wed to Sun.

Feb 6th I had a L shoulder replaced, socket and all. Bill was $93,400. Just the joint parts were billed some over $35,000. Over night. All this hardware is titanium too.

I've learned a good lesson from these on insurance I'd like to share with everyone. I pay $203 a month premium for Plan F Medicare supplemental. So far other than a very few extra scripts I haven't had to pay a single dime for all this. IF anyone is on medicare, get that Plan F it pays 100%. some of the others don't come close to doing so. Might be a bit less premium.

Wish you well, thanks for the discussion. I'm impressed with the quality of your work and place.
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I know the feeling, it looks like my knee! Big Grin



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Damn Frank, that's UGLY!!
Never seen one circle around like that.
most are straight over the front.

How you getting along with it? When?
I've begged for yrs to have mine done. "not ready yet" "hell I'm not!!".
Being laid up the last 2 1/2yrs I've been off them and they've stopped bothering me. Kept taking the Glucosamine pills daily though. Magic pills if there ever was one.

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Damn Frank, that's UGLY!!
Never seen one circle around like that.
most are straight over the front.

How you getting along with it? When?
I've begged for yrs to have mine done. "not ready yet" "hell I'm not!!".
Being laid up the last 2 1/2yrs I've been off them and they've stopped bothering me. Kept taking the Glucosamine pills daily though. Magic pills if there ever was one.

Wish you well,
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George,

My surgeon cut along an existing scar from when I had my ACL and PCL replaced back in the 80's.

I had seven previous surgeries on that knee that left other scars so my surgeon was afraid to cut down the middle between them and risk losing circulation to the skin in the middle.

I couldn't be happier with the replacement that I had done in August of 2012. I hunted the East Cape in South Africa last year and I'm going hunting in Wyoming in September.


Sorry for the thread jack, Lane.


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Thanks Frank.
Good enough reason.
Sure glad you're doing well with it.
Only heard of two that have had problems.
one contracted staff n lost his leg.
The other guy fell n broke the glue joint.
before it had grow together well enough.
His dr went in and repaired it. Got along
well after that.

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Damn Frank, that's UGLY!!
Never seen one circle around like that.
most are straight over the front.

How you getting along with it? When?
I've begged for yrs to have mine done. "not ready yet" "hell I'm not!!".
Being laid up the last 2 1/2yrs I've been off them and they've stopped bothering me. Kept taking the Glucosamine pills daily though. Magic pills if there ever was one.

Wish you well,
George


George,

My surgeon cut along an existing scar from when I had my ACL and PCL replaced back in the 80's.

I had seven previous surgeries on that knee that left other scars so my surgeon was afraid to cut down the middle between them and risk losing circulation to the skin in the middle.

I couldn't be happier with the replacement that I had done in August of 2012. I hunted the East Cape in South Africa last year and I'm going hunting in Wyoming in September.


Sorry for the thread jack, Lane.


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Enjoyed the reports, Doc.

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Thank you sir! When I do another unique one...I will post it.


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No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991.
 
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He sure did a much neater job on that horses leg than Franks doc did on his knee.

Though that horses leg does remind me of what Dad used to say about me as a kid: "you use too many nails!" That's a handful of screws for sure. Just kidding!

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You might be shocked to learn that the parts for a normal shoulder arthoplasty cost less than $1000 to manufacture.
Knee implant components are manufactured at maybe 100 times the volumes of shoulders and cost somewhere in the $500 range though they will get billed much higher. I suspect the hospital marks up the components 3X to 5X.


Titanium bone screws for humans cost about $3 total for material and machine time. The same screws sell for $75 each. The CNC lathes run on full automatic with very little human attention.
It is a pretty nice business if you can sell 100,000 bone screws a year.


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Feb 6th I had a L shoulder replaced, socket and all. Bill was $93,400. Just the joint parts were billed some over $35,000. Over night. All this hardware is titanium too.
 
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Am not a bit surprised at the cost to make these things. I've welded titanium pipe on the job yrs ago. Much like stainless to work on imo.

The shocking part to me is how much these sellers, hosp etc GOUGE the payer's so much. Don't seem possible they could get away with it but, they sure do.

I knew with the back fusion parts that was the deal. NFW four lags w/stud heads, nuts and two flats could possibly cost $33,000 back in Nov '05. The doc was/is partners on the supplier company group he got 'em from. Greedy SOB is all.

Thanks for your input.
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