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I've heard of some people using DMSO to relieve aching joints. Have any of you ever tried it? If so, what's your thoughts. BH63 Hunting buff is better than sex! | ||
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It was commonly used in Oklahoma in the 60s and 70s. Some of the old farmers and ranchers swore that it helped a great deal. Before I tried it; however, I would research any known hazards such as liver toxicity. "Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult." | |||
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Yes I have used it a good deal, only down side is you rub in on your skin but it will leave a nasty metallic taste in your mouth.. It was commonly used by ranchers and folks who lived the Western way of life.. There are better remedies today that can be had from your local vetm or western stores, Hyaluronic acid works real well, it comes in people bottles and animal bottles, but its the same stuff. Veterison is the best stuff for wounds on man or beast.. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Buff, I remember the DMSO craze 40 years ago. They were hawking that stuff at gas stations, at least in Oregon. For OTC relief from aches and arthritis, I have found Pain Wizard pretty useful. It is made in Colorado. No big secret, just a blend of the right stuff. https://painwizard.com/ There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t. – John Green, author | |||
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^ I'll have to try it on my arthritic hip. BH63 Hunting buff is better than sex! | |||
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DMSO is a solvent Carrier compound. It will indeed penetrate very quickly right through the skin and carry whatever is mixed with it in as well. You can taste it instantly and everyone else can smell it on you. It doesn't care what it carries into you either; maybe your DEET bug spray or whatever else is on your skin. Yes I used some back in the horse training days; mixed with Bute sometimes. Both stupid ways to treat yourself. "The liberty enjoyed by the people of these states of worshiping Almighty God agreeably to their conscience, is not only among the choicest of their blessings, but also of their rights." ~George Washington - 1789 | |||
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Bute is nasty stuff, couple of cases of jockeys medicating with the stuff and dying. Grizz Indeed, no human being has yet lived under conditions which, considering the prevailing climates of the past, can be regarded as normal. John E Pfeiffer, The Emergence of Man Those who can't skin, can hold a leg. Abraham Lincoln Only one war at a time. Abe Again. | |||
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If I get a bad hip, or any joint..I go to my doc and get a shot, He keeps me roping at 84 so its got to be good stuff and last with me years, My wife has foot problems with arthritis and she gets a shot every 6 months like most folks, the shot last me longer than anyone my doc has used it on, guess I got lucky on this. Old timers used Bute for colds etc..and a bunch of them ceased to be old timers, just corpses. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Take a look at Cetyl M in the tube dispenser. Helps horses and people. Mild, pleasant scent and seems to work well. It hasn't killed anyone I know who has used it! DRSS NRA Life Member VDD-GNA | |||
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I'm with Ray. And the shot I get is pre-paid by social security deductions. | |||
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Getting my shot on May 6th!!! LORD, let my bullets go where my crosshairs show. Not all who wander are lost. NEVER TRUST A FART!!! Cecil Leonard | |||
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I had a knee replaced last Oct. Friend Jack bought a pint bottle of DMSO for me to use. Seemed to help with the pain. But, the skin got quite rough and started to having a rash so I quit using it. Believe I was putting it on heavily several times a day. Very likely the reason for the reactions. Maybe 30 years ago three of our big dogs got to fighting and I got chewed on breaking them up. Seems three dogs and two hands just ain't enough! Tossed the german shepard over a 4' fence and grabbed for the other two. Barely got hold of them before Shep was back at it again, jumped the fence. DAMN! Having them sewn up the vet tapped my hand and said: "use this on there too". Healed up I felt quicker than it would and for once didn't infect. Seems I get dog bit or cat scratched it infects right away. Even had blood poisoning from a few. Since the wife died in '03 I never had a dog again until about 7-8yrs ago. Friendliest dog in town: Schipperke, Midnight's about 13 this last spring. Use it, but, watch your skin for any changes or reactions. And don't use it too much as I did and you should get relief with it. Cortisone injections don't last me long if at all. For knee's I had some over 65 Synvisc injections to both knees: Every six months until the last two times it didn't help at all. Doc said: "ok, it's time to replace 'em now that this don't help". Trouble is I fell and wrecked things, dislocated the knee cap. Five months before the new dr got me in to fix it then I got infection for 5-6 weeks. At 11 months I still can't walk much on it, lots of pain. Somethings just not right in there I feel. Will see what he says in Oct at a year. George "Gun Control is NOT about Guns' "It's about Control!!" Join the NRA today!" LM: NRA, DAV, George L. Dwight | |||
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DMSO is just a carrier, by itself no therapeutic effect. I do know a couple of people who have dosed themselves with Ivermectin, not pleasant. Grizz When the horse has been eliminated, human life may be extended an average of five or more years. James R. Doolitle I think they've been misunderstood. Timothy Tredwell | |||
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Ray, if you are reliably getting six months out of a corticosteroid injection, you are one of the lucky ones. I got relief once out of five different rounds of injections. Wish they worked for me. George, darn, that thing is still hurting. I'm sorry bro. There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t. – John Green, author | |||
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In college, we swore that Butte was the hangover cure. I’m only 38 but I’m thankful that I’m older and wiser than I was. As for DMSO, I’ve only gotten it on me by accident and the taste wasn’t pleasant. | |||
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My boss uses Bigeloil horse linamint on his sore parts. I tried once, it worked but I could stop eating oats!! | |||
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Just FYI...phenylbutazone (marketed as Butazolidine aka bute) was a FDA approved and prescribed human pharmaceutical for many years. In the late 1970’s it was routinely prescribed by MDs to humans for things like sprained ankles and other musculoskeletal injuries. I took it many times with football injuries while in high school prescribed by a MD. It is just an NSAID like naproxen or ibuprofen. It did have a lower threshold for side effects than newer NSAIDs and consequently was abandoned for human use. That said, with proper dosing, side effects were rare. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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I think what concerned me was the dosing looking back. Turn the dial a bit on the paste tube and let her rip was the college hangover tactic. Fortunately I’m a bit smarter now (alledegely) than I was in my college rodeo days. | |||
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DMSO does have pharmaceutical properties as well. It is classified as both an NSAID and free-oxygen-radical scavenger. It has been used in humans intravenously for CNS trauma but is currently only labeled for bladder lavage for a specific type of cystitis (bladder inflammation) in women. In horses...it is still used intravenously for CNS trauma and reperfusion injury, intra-articularly for inflammation in joints secondary to infection, and topically for subcutaneous edema caused by inflammation. In horses...it is a quite useful pharmo-chemical. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ J. Lane Easter, DVM A born Texan has instilled in his system a mind-set of no retreat or no surrender. I wish everyone the world over had the dominating spirit that motivates Texans.– Billy Clayton, Speaker of the Texas House No state commands such fierce pride and loyalty. Lesser mortals are pitied for their misfortune in not being born in Texas.— Queen Elizabeth II on her visit to Texas in May, 1991. | |||
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Just a short update on my screwed up knee. For those few that may be interested. First of Dec I told the doc: "this thing will never be any good, I'd like it replaced again if you can". "IF you want it replaced, I'll schedule it". Going in Monday Jan 13th to have it done. I believe a fall with full weight (270) on it broke a piece of the plastic off. There's a popping and seems to be a loose part in there now. George "Gun Control is NOT about Guns' "It's about Control!!" Join the NRA today!" LM: NRA, DAV, George L. Dwight | |||
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Pardon my spelling its close enough I think so: Hyluric Acid, is a horse cure and good for daily dosage for people. Vetericin is as good a wound dressing for both human and animal application Hopefully MEDVM will clean up this post!! Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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Update: had the knee replaced on the 13th. Doing great with it. Go in the 30th to get the staples out. Walking on a cane since the next day, home 47 hrs after. The last three days I've applied DMSO once per day. Today, it's showing a big red rash. Will find someone with livestock to donate it to. Ray: Hyaluric acid I think is how it's spelled. Maybe wrong too. Synvisc is what it's called though. I've had at least 65 injections of the stuff I call STP for the joints. Once it quit helping it was time to replace 'em. Might take more that just Lane to fix this post! George "Gun Control is NOT about Guns' "It's about Control!!" Join the NRA today!" LM: NRA, DAV, George L. Dwight | |||
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DMSO was the rage smong weightlifters in the late 1970s. I tried it upon the recommendation of other lifter friends. It didn't seem to do much but did leave a bad garlic taste in my mouth. _______________________________ Cal Pappas, Willow, Alaska www.CalPappas.com www.CalPappas.blogspot.com 1994 Zimbabwe 1997 Zimbabwe 1998 Zimbabwe 1999 Zimbabwe 1999 Namibia, Botswana, Zambia--vacation 2000 Australia 2002 South Africa 2003 South Africa 2003 Zimbabwe 2005 South Africa 2005 Zimbabwe 2006 Tanzania 2006 Zimbabwe--vacation 2007 Zimbabwe--vacation 2008 Zimbabwe 2012 Australia 2013 South Africa 2013 Zimbabwe 2013 Australia 2016 Zimbabwe 2017 Zimbabwe 2018 South Africa 2018 Zimbabwe--vacation 2019 South Africa 2019 Botswana 2019 Zimbabwe vacation 2021 South Africa 2021 South Africa (2nd hunt a month later) ______________________________ | |||
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Bill, Pain Wizard looks pretty good. I will give it a try when I get some. (It's not available in Canada.) Brian IHMSA BC Provincial Champion and Perfect 40 Score, Unlimited Category, AAA Class. | |||
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Some of these things reminds me of what some of the 'other guys' did to Tommy in the Army. Dosed all his shorts with Wint o Green. Then laughed at the poor guy when it started taking effect. Good thing he had a decent sense of humor. I know if it had been me and a few dozen others there'd been blood spilled. George "Gun Control is NOT about Guns' "It's about Control!!" Join the NRA today!" LM: NRA, DAV, George L. Dwight | |||
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Something I used DMSO from that I am not so proud of and it has taken me this long to post here because I am worried someone will do this. I extracted the juice out of a road kill skunk and mixed it equal parts with about a teaspoon full of DMSO and the coated a door knob on an exterior access door to a pole barn of a certain individual. He was sick for a few days, and ever after that a road kill skunk cost him his last meal. | |||
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Dirty deeds done dirt cheap. I can think of a couple of people that I could use That treatment on... | |||
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All it takes is a strong stomach, a luer lock syringe without the needle, and a road kill skunk that didn't spray in the process of dying. Oh yeah, a pretty strong dislike of the target individual ought to be part of it too as it invokes pity for them. This is not practical joke scale retribution, it is serious discomfiture that lasts a long enough time that their dying is not such a bad idea to them. | |||
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My grandpa used it all the time. He lived to be 100! Now it’s debatable if this was because or despite....... John Pomazi Hunt Nation Cell: 503 539-3836 John@hunt-nation.com Website: hunt-nation.com | |||
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Mixed Dexamethasone with DMSO. Applied to sore joints on Daughters barrel horse. Seemed to help a lot. Jim "Bwana Umfundi" NRA | |||
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Cortisone shots work great for me and one short lasts forever it seems, Ive had at least 15 -20 shots and its kept me roping into my late 80s, but its not for everyone it seems. Ray Atkinson Atkinson Hunting Adventures 10 Ward Lane, Filer, Idaho, 83328 208-731-4120 rayatkinsonhunting@gmail.com | |||
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I am fortunate that I have very few joint problems. However, when I overtrain and get sore knees or elbows I use Muay Thai oil. Make Heet, Bengay or horse liniment seem cool by comparison. However, it really relaxes the joints. Namman Muay Thai Oil Liniment Yellow oil in a bottle | |||
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Some fun comments about Muay Thai on Reddit. There is hope, even when your brain tells you there isn’t. – John Green, author | |||
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I tried something new with DMSO today. I’ve occasionally used DMSO over the years, mostly on my knees. Reading these posts, I got the idea to try DMSO with another topical treatment for arthritis. I rubbed Voltarin on both knees and let it dry a bit for a few minutes; then applied DMSO over that. I was surprised at how quickly I noticed pain relief. I’m not sure how wise this approach is, but my knees were hurting today and that combination gave fast and noticeable relief. | |||
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