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<JB Florida>
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Hello All,

I have beed shooting 350 grain speers in my 416 Hoffman. I came across some 410 Hornadys and wonder if anyone has experience with them?

thanks in advance!
JB now in Alabama
 
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yep..
they are actually 400 gr.. and shoot GREAT... big ragged hole..
and, if you can get the blems they are dirt cheap
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I have about 75 of those 400 grs Hornady's.
Have fired some 40 rounds in my Rigby, but never tried it on any game.
Seems to me that they group well considering the bore size.
I'm going to test them more thorough as I get the time.

And as "jeffeosso" says, they are cheap.

Magnar
 
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I am using woodeligh 410 grainers and am happy with them. American projectiles ie. speer etc cost the same per pack as woodeliegh's for me so I might as well use what I reckon are the best bullets going around.
 
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I remember a thread on this site, I think, about a special run of 410 gr. Hornady bullets. You may want to do a search.

I've shot the 400 gr. Hornady RNSP bullets out of my 416 rem mag. My friend shot a black bear with one. It did him in pretty quick, killed the bear too! [Wink]

In pentration tests, it retained 90% of it's weight, and expanded very good. So did the 350 gr. Speer. Both are great bullets. The 400 gr. Hornady is very accurate too.
 
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PC,
and everyone else in OZ. Keep an eye on www.lockstock.com they have blem bullets, from time to time, and they are all hornady. at 12.5 �US each, 400 grainers are easy on teh shoulder and pocket
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Thanks Jeffeso,

I wil definitely keep an eye on that. Do I really need to blast thin skinned ferals with premium woodeligh bullets [Wink]
 
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Hi I started shooting The hornady bullets in my Rigby and shot about 4 boxs of them untill I could aford to by bullet swadging equipment.
I have only shot a turkey vulture and a pheasant with them. I did recover alot out of the dirt and would find them with the core out of the jacket.
I realise dirt is a tough medium but my home made and some other brands did stay in one peice.
 
Posts: 52 | Location: Sargent ne USA | Registered: 24 June 2002Reply With Quote
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The Hornadys always worked well on Bufflo, both the softs and the old solids..the solids were as good as you could expect...A soft might ocasionally come apart on a spine shot but then all softs tear up badly on buffalo spine shots most of the time.
 
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Thanks one & All,

I'm hot on the trail of a couple of the ones mentioned. I thought this gun would pack quite a wallop but it turns out that it is really fun to shoot.
I'm up to about 20 rounds per session and getting pretty good offhand with it out to 50 yards.

It look like I'll be ready for that Buffalo before my wallet ....... Like I'm the only one.

Have a great 4th Y'all,
JB
 
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I shot a pig broadside with the 400 gain Hornady round nose out of a 416 rigby. It did not open up a lot, but I would not have expected it to either.
 
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Things may have changed now, I don't know.

But Hornady made (make?) two 400 grain bullets, one for the 416 Remington and the other for the 416 Wby factory load. The one for the 416 Wby has the cannelure further back and the bullet is more parallel, sort of of like a thinner version of their 500 grain 458. The bullet in the 416 Wby factory load would give to great an overall length if loaded to the cannelure in the 416 Remington.

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Originally posted by Mike375:
...Hornady made (make?) two 400 grain bullets,

Mike,
They might have, but today the only two 416s from hornady are the RNSP and the RN-FMJ. They shoot, close enough (1.5 to 2") to the same, out to 100yards. But, in truth, the SP shoots better. The FMJ is a slightly different shape, due to the steel core, and is slightly longer, for the same reason (lead being denser than steel).
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Jeffsasso

http://www.bonusbullets.com/rifle.htm Check this link out at Bonus bullets 390 grain hard casts for 12.00/100 or 29.00/250 count. Yeah, I know they are cast...not for DGR but, cheap plinking. Hmmmm...plinking and 416 Rigby might be an oxymoron of types.AWTC [Smile]
 
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THOSE QUOTED ARE .416 [Cool]
 
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I agree with what 500 said about bullet expansion in the .416 bullets, not much of it on small game it was not intended for, I have a handfull of "Taipan" (Aussie made projectile) 400 grain RN projectiles here which I will be trying on feral stuff next week. There supposed to open up like rotted banannas [Eek!]

I do not know if there still available, Mike375 may know.
 
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jeffe,

The 400 grain bullet for the 416 Wby was never listed as a component bullet by Hornady. I don't know if Weatherby still have a 400 grain round nose in their factory load for the 416.

PC,

Taipan have a website but it is not complete with listings etc.

Mike
 
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Obviously there still available then Mike.
Have you tried them in any particular calibre??
 
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PC,

Here is there website

http://www.bulletmaker.com/

I used them as kid in the 60s with 270. Taipan bullets use to be made in SA by a bloke callled Sid Churches, as I remember.

In 270 the bullets were real killers.

Mike
 
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JB Florida,
What do you think of those Speer 350 grainers? Are they accurate in your rifle?

I am more interested in finding some less expensive 350 grain bullets for practice. How does $19.99 for 50 of the Speer 350 grainers sound? Not cheap, but not bad, eh? Good varmint bullet in my 416 Taylor I'll bet, and likely stout enough for anything in KY [Big Grin] Anyway, I found a bunch gathering dust in the local gun shop so will be getting familiar with them. Might mimic the Barnes X 350 grainer well enough for me.

350 grains is a great weight for North America, though the 400 grainer practice will be better for Africa.
 
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<JB Florida>
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The 350's are between 1.25" and 1.5" at 100 yds
(bench)
I also tried them at my 200yd target but the groups went to 2.5" (or larger)
I intend to try it out when filling
doe tags this fall. yeah, kind of a live test.
On a positive note, my offhand shooting is really improving since shooting the bigger caliber.

JB
 
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PC,
A friend of mine who posts here used the 375 taipan bullets and they did not open up much on boars.

Mike,
An army mate of mine used the 270 taipans on one of our hunts,(150 grainers I think)and they were going right through roos, ending up in the dirt with a bent nose. Not sure if this was a bad lot or they have toughened them up somewhat.

Karl.
 
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Karl,

As I said, my experience with them was a few years ago [Big Grin]

The other Australian bullets we used back then were Super and Riverbrand. They were not as accurate as Hornadys but killed better.

Mike
 
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I did hit a cat but with a woodeliegh 410 gr RNSN at 2700 aprox at about 8-10 yards as it was running away from me. The cat literally exploded and was moved about 4 metres, my mate saw it get blown along I was head up in recoil.

Now what happened, did that woodeligh exapand or was the cat blown apart by the sheer power with which that projectile would have disrupted the medium.
 
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Gentlemen -- You that shoot the .416 should try the 370 gr. North Fork bullet, it is extremely tough and accurate. A bonded core lead frontal section and solid rear shank, grooved to foul the barrel less. Good shooting. [Wink]
 
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RAB, I've gotten great accuracy with the Speer. I've gotten many three shot groups at 100 yds that went under a half inch. Nearly every group has been under an inch. In my 416 Rem, 80-81 grains of RE-15 seems to be the sweet spot, although I've tried up to 85 grains.

The Speers are as cheap as any, accurate and easy to find. Makes me wonder why I keep futzing around with higher priced, more tempermental, less accurate and harder to find bullets.

Joe.
 
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RAB,

I've got a 1.75" 3 shot group at 100 yards with the 350 gr. Speer Mag-Tip. This was with 82.0 grs. of RL15. My rifle is a Ruger No1 416 Remington, and my scope was set on 2X.
 
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JB Flordia
I have used the orginal 410 Fmj bullets since Jim Bell had the first run made. This is my first choice when using my .416 Hoffman. I delieve I was the first one to use this bullet on elephant in Sudan. This was before they were on the market. I still have 5 or 6 hundred on hand. They are very accurate in every rifle that I have used them in. I have several groups under an inch
and have one below half/inch (.469" )
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George Hoffman?
THE Hoffman? my hat's off to you, sir. Other than Parker Ackley, there isn't a wildcatter I would like to meet more, and electronicly is nearly as good. While I shoot a 416 rem, it's YOUR cartridge that inspired big green.
Thanks, tons.
a respectful admirer,
jeffe
 
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